Is speed 9 ball a usefull training aid?

Lol..I don’t throw 9 balls on the table. I gently roll them. I want running around the table, but I was pretty much moving after each shot. Thanks for all the great reply’s. 👍👍
I don't get it, what makes that better than just trying to run the balls?
 
Fast and accurate can be pretty intimidating. It also narrows the distraction window; beating the choke, so to speak.
The downside is incompetence always threatens.
 
Fast and accurate can be pretty intimidating. It also narrows the distraction window; beating the choke, so to speak.
The downside is incompetence always threatens.

Good fun too. I used to run a mad minute, not really a time but an activity. Put the balls on the table, walk around the table one stroking almost everything. The trick is to stay a long stride away from the table when moving around the table. Back foot stops, bridge coming down the same time as the front foot is placed, whack! I found it good when I was beaten up and banged up physically. I would loosen up but my eye was finding the line better too. All shots got one set-up and I had to make that set up work. I had a table at home, I was maybe sixteen years old. This was a change of pace thing.

I bumped into a couple of guys I had went to school with three or four years ago. One of them thought he was the best pool player in town so we had to give it a go. Just to be annoying I went into the one stroke or no practice stroke mode. Hit and move. I was playing speed pool long before I knew of it, maybe before it existed. James was shooting pool with me, Paul was another old classmate. He and James were long term running buddies but Paul couldn't resist his sense of humor running wild! He was sitting in a chair laughing until tears ran down his face and he was having genuine difficulty not falling out of his chair.

James was a wee bit annoyed and asked Paul what he found so damned funny. "You are carefully setting up on every shot, taking a lot of time. Hu is just running around the table slapping the balls and he is playing just as well!

I never let them know that my best careful game was only maybe 5%-10% better than when I seemed to be just clowning. I did sometimes use it with people I was gambling with especially when looking at a wide open table. Let them think they had stepped in it with both feet.

Good fun for a teenager!

Hu
 
I never saw it myself, but I heard that at Cochran's (SF) in the 60s you could call over to the counter for "a glass of beer and a straight-shooting pill." Not much table service at pool halls any more.
At Randolph Hills in Rockville MD in the 70's, any time I got about 5 games ahead of anyone, my opponent would always ask for a break so that he could go outside for a "tune up". ;)
 
I never saw it myself, but I heard that at Cochran's (SF) in the 60s you could call over to the counter for "a glass of beer and a straight-shooting pill." Not much table service at pool halls any more.
And you'd better remain on good terms with the 'bartender'.

If not, you might get a 9 ball pill when you are playing 1p.
 
I once watched a late-nite gambling match between two greats(one is a HOF'r). As it got really late it turned into a contest between pills vs. powder. Powder won by a nose. ;)
Best pool I ever saw was dipped in pcp.

That guy was insane, all meanings of the word.
 
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I'm sure he's throwing them at fastball speed from 30 feet away there dude. Generally you have good points, this just sounds like you're channeling @justnum

This is literally one of the dumbest things I've heard on here. "Throwing out" doesn't mean he's flipping the tray over or really banging them on the table.

Have you ever did a jump shot? Balls hit the slate often. You just spouted off some real dumb, dumb so dumb it's almost impressive.
Throwing out is a term I've heard others use for tossing them on the table.

One reason I disallow tossing balls is they usually fall onto the cloth/slate from a greater height than most jump shots reach, with more force.
 
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Sharivari did something similar in one of his latest videos. His point was that with the right position you should be able to make any of the remaining shots in your pattern with too much fanfare.

EDIT: Well, never mind. Just follow the link to YouTube and jump to around 8:15 in the video.

 
Throwing out is a term I've heard others use for tossing them on the table.

One reason I disallow tossing balls is they usually fall onto the cloth/slate from a greater height than most jump shots reach, with more force.
Still will never generate enough force to even remotely damage the slate. I've seen GC's that had 40+yrs of commercial use/abuse and the slate surface was still pristine. Maybe a air-cannon/Randy Johnson fastball speed impact but just tossing balls on the bed won't hurt it.
 
Throwing out is a term I've heard others use for tossing them on the table.

One reason I disallow tossing balls is they usually fall onto the cloth/slate from a greater height than most jump shots reach, with more force.

You are comparing the energy in a dropped ball to the energy of the jumped ball landing. The energy put into the table to get a ball to leave the surface is much greater than the energy of it landing.
 
You are comparing the energy in a dropped ball to the energy of the jumped ball landing. The energy put into the table to get a ball to leave the surface is much greater than the energy of it landing.
A typical table will bounce a ball to about half of the height it's dropped from. (This depends on the slate and the cloth.) Each bounce contact has about half the energy of the previous one. It's easy but noisy to test the fraction of bounce.

One result of this is that if you are shooting a jump shot and want the cue ball to leave the table at a particular angle, your stick needs about twice as much elevation as that angle.
 
:rolleyes:

I'm sure he's throwing them at fastball speed from 30 feet away there dude. Generally you have good points, this just sounds like you're channeling @justnum

This is literally one of the dumbest things I've heard on here. "Throwing out" doesn't mean he's flipping the tray over or really banging them on the table.

Have you ever did a jump shot? Balls hit the slate often. You just spouted off some real dumb, dumb so dumb it's almost impressive.

The Grand Canyon was created by one droplet of water, that droplet of water kept acting for millions of years.

If you want to deconstruct a theory, then the argument would be cheap slate erodes faster. Cheap slate suppliers are using cheap production methods that cause structural failures in the slate, making it prone to failure. Throwing the balls on cheap slate causes dents, but it doesn't cause the same type of dents in all slate.

The best argument is gradients on roads. Highway roads should use a different formula for the surface than local roads. Highway roads require higher quality. Local roads lower quality.

In terms of managing the situation @boogieman is not respecting the talent and knowledge of others. Boogieman's action is funny in a 3rd grade way.

What confuses most people is watching pro pool. Pro pool is always played on mostly new equipment.

However most players compete on less than new equipment. It confuses players because getting the chance to be on new equipment is expensive.

The best times is when a new player joins and is not familiar with the awkwardness of a specific table. The strong players handle it well, the players that are just there usually react differently.
 
The Grand Canyon was created by one droplet of water, that droplet of water kept acting for millions of years.

If you want to deconstruct a theory, then the argument would be cheap slate erodes faster. Cheap slate suppliers are using cheap production methods that cause structural failures in the slate, making it prone to failure. Throwing the balls on cheap slate causes dents, but it doesn't cause the same type of dents in all slate.

The best argument is gradients on roads. Highway roads should use a different formula for the surface than local roads. Highway roads require higher quality. Local roads lower quality.

In terms of managing the situation @boogieman is not respecting the talent and knowledge of others. Boogieman's action is funny in a 3rd grade way.

What confuses most people is watching pro pool. Pro pool is always played on mostly new equipment.

However most players compete on less than new equipment. It confuses players because getting the chance to be on new equipment is expensive.

The best times is when a new player joins and is not familiar with the awkwardness of a specific table. The strong players handle it well, the players that are just there usually react differently.

Have you ever tried to dent slate?

Slate, like most brittle materials does not dent. Slate will chip, crack, delaminate, or crumble.
 
You are comparing the energy in a dropped ball to the energy of the jumped ball landing. The energy put into the table to get a ball to leave the surface is much greater than the energy of it landing.
Do you play in a private room at home? You may have never seen young people at a local hall toss balls so high to land onto a table, they bounce multiple times upon landing. It can't be good for the cloth or the balls, let alone the slate.
 
This can help you to improve your decision processes, but it does take you away from the pre-shot routine with which you're more likely to succeed, so don't do this too often.
 
The Grand Canyon was created by one droplet of water, that droplet of water kept acting for millions of years.

If you want to deconstruct a theory, then the argument would be cheap slate erodes faster. Cheap slate suppliers are using cheap production methods that cause structural failures in the slate, making it prone to failure. Throwing the balls on cheap slate causes dents, but it doesn't cause the same type of dents in all slate.

The best argument is gradients on roads. Highway roads should use a different formula for the surface than local roads. Highway roads require higher quality. Local roads lower quality.

In terms of managing the situation @boogieman is not respecting the talent and knowledge of others. Boogieman's action is funny in a 3rd grade way.

What confuses most people is watching pro pool. Pro pool is always played on mostly new equipment.

However most players compete on less than new equipment. It confuses players because getting the chance to be on new equipment is expensive.

The best times is when a new player joins and is not familiar with the awkwardness of a specific table. The strong players handle it well, the players that are just there usually react differently.
How to show other people you don't know and desperately want to be.
 
The Grand Canyon was created by one droplet of water, that droplet of water kept acting for millions of years.

If you want to deconstruct a theory, then the argument would be cheap slate erodes faster. Cheap slate suppliers are using cheap production methods that cause structural failures in the slate, making it prone to failure. Throwing the balls on cheap slate causes dents, but it doesn't cause the same type of dents in all slate.

The best argument is gradients on roads. Highway roads should use a different formula for the surface than local roads. Highway roads require higher quality. Local roads lower quality.

In terms of managing the situation @boogieman is not respecting the talent and knowledge of others. Boogieman's action is funny in a 3rd grade way.

What confuses most people is watching pro pool. Pro pool is always played on mostly new equipment.

However most players compete on less than new equipment. It confuses players because getting the chance to be on new equipment is expensive.

The best times is when a new player joins and is not familiar with the awkwardness of a specific table. The strong players handle it well, the players that are just there usually react differently.
WTF???????????????
 
Do you play in a private room at home? You may have never seen young people at a local hall toss balls so high to land onto a table, they bounce multiple times upon landing. It can't be good for the cloth or the balls, let alone the slate.
Bad behavior but it doesn't hurt anything. Give 'em one warning, after that they got tossed.
 
WTF???????????????
He just pulls stupid thoughts out and tries to arrange them in a way that might be construed plausible.

I'm sure he is expertly aware of slate production processes.

He must be also be aware of road construction and engineering...expertly, of course.

And when was the last time you heard a new player say he was confused by not playing on pro excitement. Half-past never!!!
 
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