Is This Shot Too Tough?

DrCue'sProtege

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what would you posters do here? is this shot too tough to play with inside english? the other balls (9, 6, 4) pretty much block going two rails to get position on the 2 Ball. If your playing someone that has been running out, and you want to stay at the table and think offense, in my mind you have to try this shot.

DCP


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You can try it like that, but if I were playing for the shits and grins I might do it like this ..

I have almost mastered the bank draw also.. It isn't very hard, and yet very helpful..

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I don't think it's too tough. The one is such a short shot that even with a tough angle and side spin, it should be a high enough "make percentage." Also I don't think you need all that much inside english the way you've diagrammed it, just top english and slow speed should cut the ball and bring the cue ball just inside the 4 ball, or so it looks to me. Even if you clip the 4 on the way out, you don't get yourself in trouble unless you hit it hard enough to tie it up with the 6. You can get back to the 4 from either side of the 2, so you're in pretty good shape for this rack, IMO.

-Andrew
 
I think I would do what DCP has drawn. Not so sure that I need to come up so far though. My main concern would be to get past the 4 ball.
 
i'm pretty sure that if you hit it at a steady pace center/high ball, if you do run into either of those two problem balls you'll bump em out of the way. i just feel playing it with inside spin over-complicates the shot.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
what would you posters do here? is this shot too tough to play with inside english?
Is this shot too tough? For whom?

This is the type of shot, IMO, that you should be able to shoot at without any more thought than if it were outside english. If this shot isn't in your bag, you should be practicing it.

That is, if this inside english shot is the right shot, it needs to be shot.

Fred
 
Paying offensively I would probably draw the cueball, possibly potting the nine and I should still have a shot on the two, if I hit it right even a good shot on the two.

gr. Dave
 
You would go broke banking that ball in that situation. You'd be better off firing the 1 in the hole and riding the 9.

I think I would pocket the 1 with low or center L and go around 2 rails, though the hi-inside is certainly doable.

PROG8R said:
You can try it like that, but if I were playing for the $$ I might do it like this ..

I have almost mastered the bank draw also.. It isn't very hard, and yet very helpful..

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worriedbeef said:
i'm pretty sure that if you hit it at a steady pace center/high ball, if you do run into either of those two problem balls you'll bump em out of the way. i just feel playing it with inside spin over-complicates the shot.

I like your idea best. Maybe just a touch of inside, but not much. The bank is just a give up shot.
 
Black-Balled said:
You would go broke banking that ball in that situation. You'd be better off firing the 1 in the hole and riding the 9.

I think I would pocket the 1 with low or center L and go around 2 rails, though the hi-inside is certainly doable.
LOL,
I tried to add this shot to the saftey I drew up, but on the preview the safety was always messed up, so I cut it and pasted it later, and forgot to edit the wording, for the record I would not try to do that shot if it were going to hurt my pockets, but for league, playoffs, tourneys (if I were not on the hill) I would do it because I can hit it with a high rate of frequency.
 
Personally, I would never bank that ball either. If the shot comes up as you have shown, I would certainly be comfortable putting 1/2 tip of inside english and avoiding the other 2 OB's. Everyone has shots that they are more comfortable with than others but that shot has to be in your arsenal if you want to be competitive. JMHO..

Peace, Joe
 
DCP,
Fred had it right. You are asking the wrong question, to the wrong person.

The correct question is "can YOU make this shot a high percentage of the time?"

The correct person to direct the question towards is yourself. One thing the forum members can do is to tell you that an accomplished player can make this a high percentage of the time. My teacher has recommended practicing inside English at all speeds, distances, and degrees until you can use it without fear (or until you can play like Efren).
 
This is a standard shot and a good one to have in your bag. You should be able to straighten the cueball enough with slow speed, right center to avoid the 9. Hit it easy and you have automatic shape.

You can also cheat the pocket by overcutting it slightly while you're at it, which means you need less spin. I shoot this easy, one tip of center right, overcut slightly. Important not to elevate the cue butt.

Chris
 
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DrCue'sProtege said:
what would you posters do here? is this shot too tough to play with inside english? the other balls (9, 6, 4) pretty much block going two rails to get position on the 2 Ball. If your playing someone that has been running out, and you want to stay at the table and think offense, in my mind you have to try this shot.

DCP


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As far as I am concerened, this is the "right shot".

Another option (only on real tight pockets) is to bank the 1 two rails out of that corner toward the head of the table and float the cueball behind the 9 for a safety.
 
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