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champ2107 said:
i found this snooker table the other day near my house and played for 5 minutes, cte works just the same on a full sized snooker table as it does on a 9 footer as it does on a 7 footer. I have tried all sizes tables.
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The pros nail spot shots at around 80% clip on a 9-footer.
I don't think they come close to that on Big Bertha.
 
JoeyInCali said:
The pros nail spot shots at around 80% clip on a 9-footer.
I don't think they come close to that on Big Bertha.
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well im no pro and don't claim to be and don't even take the game seriously but i will make some videos that should give people a better idea of what cte is all about.
 
JoeyInCali said:
The pros nail spot shots at around 80% clip on a 9-footer.
I don't think they come close to that on Big Bertha.
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Joey:

I tend to agree with you. For someone who's a self-professed "non-professional calibre player" (to put it lightly and giving an extreme amount of doubt benefit to), to say he can take CTE to a snooker table and "it works all the same," I have my doubts, too.

In fact, let's dispense with crazy cut-shots (like the spot shot) altogether. I'd like to see "champ" place the blue on its spot (center spot on the table), take cue ball in hand in the "D" area, and shoot that blue into one of the far corner pockets. Do this on a genuine 12-footer, not the "Americanized" 10-foot snooker tables. (Hint: 12-footers are "arachnid" tables -- they have eight [8] legs in total, four on each side, instead of the Americanized 6-legged snooker tables.)

Do 10 tries. I'd like to see video of that, with no editing.

-Sean
 
TheThaiger said:
Money, obviously. It's not necessarily that it doesn't work for some, but that's it's unnecessary for most.
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So I have figured it out. You must be an Instructor. So show us the break down between necessary & un-necessary. Those are facts I would like to see.

Thanks,
randyg
 
sfleinen said:
Joey:

I tend to agree with you. For someone who's a self-professed "non-professional calibre player" (to put it lightly and giving an extreme amount of doubt benefit to), to say he can take CTE to a snooker table and "it works all the same," I have my doubts, too.

In fact, let's dispense with crazy cut-shots (like the spot shot) altogether. I'd like to see "champ" place the blue on its spot (center spot on the table), take cue ball in hand in the "D" area, and shoot that blue into one of the far corner pockets. Do this on a genuine 12-footer, not the "Americanized" 10-foot snooker tables. (Hint: 12-footers are "arachnid" tables -- they have eight [8] legs in total, four on each side, instead of the Americanized 6-legged snooker tables.)

Do 10 tries. I'd like to see video of that, with no editing.

-Sean
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i can do that for you and like i said i am no pro and don't expect myself to make every shot either or i would turn pro if i could. i can only use the equipment available to me :)
 
champ2107 said:
you are so very ignorant and the dinosaur that wrote that article should be embarrassed to call himself an instructor also. You guys no nothing about cte/pro1 and that is the only system i will talk about also,im starting to think im the only person on this board that was able to understand it and use it? The cte/pro1 disc only showed you 3/4 of the system, it goes beyond the pro1 part and keeps evolving!!!
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AMEN.

Roger Long was just stating his opinion. Nothing wrong with that. If he doesn't want to teach CTE, more power to him.
randyg
 
cfrandy said:
Ok...no PVC here and he STILL misses 30% of the time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhla1mQd9LU&feature=player_detailpage

ALL pivot aiming systems have their limitations, as pointed out by Dr Dave: http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/aiming.html#CTE. However, it would be best if you learn to aim from a certified instructor and not from someone who has yet to master the fundamentals and can only pocket the ball 60% of the time! Randy G. is a Master instructor! His "refined" version of CTE will work for most students! However, you can be sure he will teach you the fundamentals of stance and stroke before he teaches you how to aim! I also bet he doesn't miss his shots 30% of the time!
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Hey, thanks. Yup Dr. Dave gets it wrong once and a while, no big deal.

In Pool School we call CTE, SAME AIM. Just a refinded version of Hal's original CTE.

In Pool School I might miss every shot while I'm talk'n & teach'n. Blackie doesn't miss very often in competition.
randyg
 
champ2107 said:
tell randy g to make a video of cte and i match it on a snooker table using stan shufetts with 3.5 pockets :) im self taught and never had a lesson from any one and learned off a dvd. why dont you tell me the limitations and let me prove you wrong? <<< this offer goes out to anyone also :)
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That's quite easy. The limitations are, of course.....humans.

No need for more videos on CTE, Stan has one, I have one, that's plenty.
randyg
 
randyg said:
AMEN.

Roger Long was just stating his opinion. Nothing wrong with that. If he doesn't want to teach CTE, more power to him.
randyg
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that's cool, i just seem to notice a lil jealousy between instructors and there products is all on here...but that could just be my imagination though?
 
champ2107 said:
i just found a snooker table close to my house why dont you make a video and i will make one also playing snooker and i will use a system. Im telling you this before hand because more than likely you wont have an idea im using a cte system :) i haven't played on a snooker table in maybe 20 years also, since i was a kid :)
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I play golf on a snooker table quite often. I use SAME AIM or 90/90 for all my shots.....why not?
randyg
 
randyg said:
That's quite easy. The limitations are, of course.....humans.

No need for more videos on CTE, Stan has one, I have one, that's plenty.
randyg
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Maybe i can make a video and you can critic it or help me out, how does that sound? im also just changed my grip,stroke and i think im 80% there maybe you can help?
 
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champ2107 said:
i found this snooker table the other day near my house and played for 5 minutes, cte works just the same on a full sized snooker table as it does on a 9 footer as it does on a 7 footer. I have tried all sizes tables.
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So very true.
randyg
 
Saying "CTE works all the same" on 12 footer vs 7-8-9 footer, he probably means that the system works the same to pocket balls, not that you will make the same percentage of shots. Of course on a 12 footer the margin of error will be far smaller, thus harder to make each and every shot. CTE will not compensate for any inconsistency in your fundamentals you back it up with.
 
champ2107 said:
that's cool, i just seem to notice a lil jealousy between instructors and there products is all on here...but that could just be my imagination though?
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Most all P.B.I.A Instructors are friends. We all have the same goal in common.

Not all instructors are the equal to Jerry Briesath or Scott Lee, still their information is valuable to most players.

If some of those Instructors are a member of the SPF Family then we all have the same common ground work to help most students.

Champ, have a great day
randyg
 
sfleinen said:
Joey:

I tend to agree with you. For someone who's a self-professed "non-professional calibre player" (to put it lightly and giving an extreme amount of doubt benefit to), to say he can take CTE to a snooker table and "it works all the same," I have my doubts, too.

In fact, let's dispense with crazy cut-shots (like the spot shot) altogether. I'd like to see "champ" place the blue on its spot (center spot on the table), take cue ball in hand in the "D" area, and shoot that blue into one of the far corner pockets. Do this on a genuine 12-footer, not the "Americanized" 10-foot snooker tables. (Hint: 12-footers are "arachnid" tables -- they have eight [8] legs in total, four on each side, instead of the Americanized 6-legged snooker tables.)

Do 10 tries. I'd like to see video of that, with no editing.

-Sean
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do you think if i can make a 6 foot straight in shot but cant make a 12 foot straight in shot its the system and not me, is this what you mean? or you just want to see how good of a player i am?
 
champ2107 said:
do you think if i can make a 6 foot straight in shot but cant make a 12 foot straight in shot its the system and not me, is this what you mean? or you just want to see how good of a player i am?
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If you move your head when you're shooting.....
...would that mean your hair-do is a 'to and fro'?:confused::)

pt<...who uses STS-MIH
 
the fro helps balance me out on my pivot to center ball, i get thrown off balance when im in a half tip pivot offset position :thumbup:
 
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