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third DVD is still hanging

Joe V's two rail kicking system is INCREDIBLE. (and that's a fact)

The other day I had another fellow that showed me a different two rail kicking system and while it got you in the vicinity, Joe V's kicking system, was FAR BETTER.


Joey,

I'm waiting on Joe's third DVD, seems like he is having trouble getting the computer guys to get that finished up, not sure what the hang-up is. Last time we talked on the phone he said he had something he really wanted to show me on a table. Don't know when or if that will happen but if you bump into him in your travels you might ask him what he is up to lately.

Hu
 
And miss the mirth? Madness.

I hear ya on the case thing, although it's more because of a personal dislike of the design than the principle of allowing someone to advertise their wares. It looks like a dog's vomited on it. I'd feel a right tit getting that out in the poolhall.

I enjoy your interchanges with JB....
...right now I think it's about a dead heat....

But I got a feeling Thaiger and JB both think they're winning by a landslide.:bash::duck::slap:
 
I enjoy your interchanges with JB....
...right now I think it's about a dead heat....

But I got a feeling Thaiger and JB both think they're winning by a landslide.:bash::duck::slap:


I think there's a 23% chance that JB and Thiager are the same person. :thumbup:
 
I enjoy your interchanges with JB....
...right now I think it's about a dead heat....

But I got a feeling Thaiger and JB both think they're winning by a landslide.:bash::duck::slap:

True, but one of us is secure enough in their argument to let the other hang.

Again, can't help but feel a little insulted by the 'dead heat' comments. The man simply hasn't a clue what he's on about.
 
like JB or not...he adds a lot of good stuff to this forum and just speaks his mind and has balls! He also does not purposely try to be a arrogant, condescending dick like some do on here for some flipping reason?
 
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True, but one of us is secure enough in their argument to let the other hang.

Again, can't help but feel a little insulted by the 'dead heat' comments. The man simply hasn't a clue what he's on about.

You represent yourself well Thaiger....

.but EVERYBODY knows JB makes a good case...
 
And miss the mirth? Madness.

I hear ya on the case thing, although it's more because of a personal dislike of the design than the principle of allowing someone to advertise their wares. It looks like a dog's vomited on it. I'd feel a right tit getting that out in the poolhall.

So you're really now talking about the customer's sense of design? This is your way of insulting me, to put down what the customer likes?

You should feel like a saggy tit using that method of trolling. I imagine that you look like a tit no matter what you do in the pool room.

Let's recap shall we:

In this thread about cue ball control you have said that we have no clue because snooker players don't talk about aiming and know it's all about form. That was busted because in fact snooker players do talk about aiming and snooker coaches teach aiming.

Then you said well a few online nerds don't matter and coaches are preying on the stupid and brought up Steve Davis as your example of a form player who never thinks about aiming. And yet Steve Davis has an instructional easily found on YouTube where he describes aiming in detail, the ball-overlap-system.

Then you said that this forum is full of talkers, presumably meaning that all of us talkers can't play. I don't even need to to tell you how ridiculous that notion is. You an anonymous troll telling the whole forum that they only talk and can't play, in a thread where we are discussing cue ball control is true troll behavior.

Then you said the lads down at the snooker hall don't run on about aiming as if to say that we do at our pool rooms.

So since I busted all of your claims you then move on calling me a megalomaniac, insulting my customer's tastes, puffing yourself up to some sort of literary expert.

The sad part is that the only comparative vomit is what you write, all claims and hyperbolic statements easily busted. Using hyperbole does not grant you a free pass to be a liar. Being the anonymous troll you are your words have no weight and are easily shredded by a minimum amount of time and effort.

Now don't you need to go play some snooker instead of nattering on with us talkers?
 
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I believe a lot on here would do better practicing position and how to control the CB than spending endless hours talking about aiming systems that are only going to get you in the ballpark.

What makes you think that people "on here" who talk aiming don't practice cue ball position?

This is a video I uploaded 11 months ago of me doing a position drill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8DwmGMsa5k&feature=g-upl&context=G23e6263AUAAAAAAAXAA

And how does an aiming system get you in the ballpark?

I don't understand? You are saying that the aiming system a person uses would get them into ballpark position for the next shot?

How would that work?

I was thinking that the speed of the cue ball and where it was hit is what determines where the cue ball goes after it contacts the object ball? Is that not true?

I am flat out TIRED of people trying to put down those of us who want to talk aiming.

WHAT DO YOU REALLY CARE? WHY DO YOU REALLY CARE?



Better position=closer shots=make more balls=make more balls and you will get the feel of all the angles. Johnnyt

Duh, really? This is basic pool. What does it have to do with aiming and talking about aiming?

Why are people like you SO ARROGANT as to assume that those of us interested in aiming are one dimensional? Why do you assume we don't practice other parts of the game or study all aspects of the game.

You should be HAPPY that there are those of us interested enough in aiming to explore everything about it.

All of you whine and complain about how pool is dying and here you have some folks who propose exploring different techniques to aim that can ONLY be worked out on the table which leads to more table time and more enjoyment on the table and you have NOTHING BETTER TO DO than put those people down. It's ridiculous.

You are so arrogant it's unreal. Here we are, people who LOVE POOL, love it and all you can think to do is put us down. Call us fools, and stupid and kooks, gullible, stupid, hacks, etc.....

This forum and all pool forums are supposed to be here for those who LOVE the game to discuss all aspects in a FRIENDLY way.

If a group of people were discussing aiming at your local pool room you wouldn't jump in and put them all down, especially if you KNEW that some of them could really play. So why do you do it here. WHY????

Because it's easy for you? Because you think it's ok to make a new thread putting down a whole category of forum members?

Well, I see people all the time who can control their cue ball, can draw their rock table length and add any spin you want, but they miss a lot. They also miss "easy" shots quite a bit.

Why do they miss Johnny? Tell us your expert opinion. What are ALL the reasons that they could miss a shot Johnny?

What good is cue ball control if you miss?

The TROLLGER says it's all about the cueing (the stroke quality). I don't think it's ALL about that. I think part of it is the stroke and part of it is the aiming.

Because if you aren't on the right line then you can ONLY make the ball by steering the cue ball and IF you are steering the cue ball THEN your positional opportunities are limited.

So what good is it to learn to shoot by COMPENSATING for aiming wrong?

What happens there is you learn really quickly that there are some shots better avoided. You learn to FEAR certain shots because you KNOW that you can't make the shot AND get position. You can shoot a shot five hundred times and still not quite "figure" it out and always be afraid of it IF you can't aim it right. Sure you can learn to compensate for aiming wrong with enough repetition.

Little more to the left, little more, little more, there perfect, oops I want to use right english and not left english, WHAT NOW?????

As opposed to REALLY learning how to aim, really really really learning it and working on the stroke along with it.

THEN when you really really really are SURE you are on the right line to make the ball you can go from there and start playing with spin and speed. But the fact of it is that people LIKE YOU advocate working on position play long before the player is really ready. And it's the fact that most people don't really AIM right that causes them to have poor quality strokes when practicing and playing, especially under pressure.

People like you take aiming for granted, as if it's something that just comes naturally to those who have the talent. Well, you are wrong. Aiming is an important part of the game that can be practiced and honed to a FINE edge. It is next to the stroke the single most important part of the game.

Why?

Because Johnny, with proper aiming and a decent stroke you will make a lot more shots period. You will miss less "easy" shots, you make more of the tough shots. You will do this with NO SPIN and just speed control.

And this stays with you no matter what the shot is. Even when you are left with a tough shot through no fault of your own. You know that happens a lot don't you?

So enough, enough with the denigrating of aiming enthusiasts. We love the game as much or more than you do.

I, or any of the principle aiming system advocates on this forum will be more than happy to have any sort of contest with you that you want to prove that they understand as much about cue ball control as you do and possibly even more.

So how about a little respect? We haven't drawn divisions why should you?
 
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So you're really now talking about the customer's sense of design? This is your way of insulting me, to put down what the customer likes?

You should feel like a saggy tit using that method of trolling. I imagine that you look like a tit no matter what you do in the pool room.

Let's recap shall we:

In this thread about cue ball control you have said that we have no clue because snooker players don't talk about aiming and know it's all about form. That was busted because in fact snooker players do talk about aiming and snooker coaches teach aiming.

Then you said well a few online nerds don't matter and coaches are preying on the stupid and brought up Steve Davis as your example of a form player who never thinks about aiming. And yet Steve Davis has an instructional easily found on YouTube where he describes aiming in detail, the ball-overlap-system.

Then you said that this forum is full of talkers, presumably meaning that all of us talkers can't play. I don't even need to to tell you how ridiculous that notion is. You an anonymous troll telling the whole forum that they only talk and can't play, in a thread where we are discussing cue ball control is true troll behavior.

Then you said the lads down at the snooker hall don't run on about aiming as if to say that we do at our pool rooms.

So since I busted all of your claims you then move on calling me a megalomaniac, insulting my customer's tastes, puffing yourself up to some sort of literary expert.

The sad part is that the only comparative vomit is what you write, all claims and hyperbolic statements easily busted. Using hyperbole does not grant you a free pass to be a liar. Being the anonymous troll you are your words have no weight and are easily shredded by a minimum amount of time and effort.

Now don't you need to go play some snooker instead of nattering on with us talkers?

Put THIS guy on ignore? I'd put him on the telly!
 
You represent yourself well Thaiger....

.but EVERYBODY knows JB makes a good case...

He does NOT make cases anymore! He designs them and then turns the design over to his 9 Chinese PRODUCTION workers. JB now "mass produces" cases. If you want a handmade case by the case maker himself, you'll have to talk to Jim Murnak, Jack Justis, and Joe/Dan Whitten. However, you will not find any of those case makers here in these forums...they're too busy making cases!
 
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He does NOT make cases anymore! He designs them and then turns the design over to his 9 Chinese PRODUCTION workers. If you want a handmade case by the case maker himself, you'll have to talk to Jim Murnak, Jack Justis, and Joe/Dan Whitten. However, you will not find any of those case makers here in these forums...they're too busy making cases!

You haven't seen JB and Jack Justis go back and forth here on AZB? I seem to recall Jim Murnak on here recently, as well... Dunno about the Whittens.
 
He does NOT make cases anymore! He designs them and then turns the design over to his 9 Chinese PRODUCTION workers. If you want a handmade case by the case maker himself, you'll have to talk to Jim Murnak, Jack Justis, and Joe/Dan Whitten. However, you will not find any of those case makers here in these forums...they're too busy making cases!

What happened to your kumbaya can't we all get along moment?

Would you like to bet some very large money that I can make any case on my site from start finish by myself? If you bet $10,000 then I will hire a video crew to film me making any case on my site from start to finish and I will stream it as well in real time. Except for the carving and even Justis outsources that to someone else. Not only that I will take custom suggestions from AZB and implement them on the fly. Care to put your money where your mouth is? We reopen on the 31st and I will be happy to do it next week.

You have no idea what I do and don't do Randy. But you keep trying buddy and you might get me yet.

You however love to play the China card, calling me a slaver among other things but you praise Chinese goods to high heaven when you are selling them. Do I need to post the links again?

And it's 16 people working for me now. Division of labor Randy, it's the cornerstone of civilization.

Or did you build all your stuff yourself?
 
And your contribution to the topic is......

In this thread about cue ball control you have said that we have no clue because snooker players don't talk about aiming and know it's all about form. That was busted because in fact snooker players do talk about aiming and snooker coaches teach aiming.


Yes, to beginners. You cue as badly as anyone I've ever seen, but I doubt you're a beginner (sadly). You're just not very good, and won't ever be until you learn to cue.

Then you said well a few online nerds don't matter and coaches are preying on the stupid and brought up Steve Davis as your example of a form player who never thinks about aiming. And yet Steve Davis has an instructional easily found on YouTube where he describes aiming in detail, the ball-overlap-system.

It was you that mentioned Steve Davis. I've noticed you've used this device before - you mention something, I respond, then you accuse me of originating it. You're straw man-tastic.

On a wider point, I think you'll find Pros will stick their name to anything for money. If you'd like a Steve David endorsed snooker cue, I'll get you one. The $20 they cost won't make you play like him, but you're welcome to test the theory.


Then you said that this forum is full of talkers, presumably meaning that all of us talkers can't play. I don't even need to to tell you how ridiculous that notion is. You an anonymous troll telling the whole forum that they only talk and can't play, in a thread where we are discussing cue ball control is true troll behavior.


I'd encourage anyone to play rather than talk. Your posts (and videos) prove the assertion that there are talkers, and then there are players.


So since I busted all of your claims you then move on calling me a megalomaniac, insulting my customer's tastes, puffing yourself up to some sort of literary expert.


I expressed my opinions, which I'm as entitled to as anyone else.

Using hyperbole does not grant you a free pass to be a liar.

Ooh, strong stuff. Where have I lied?

See LOTS of contributions to this thread!
 
Trollger all it takes it's five minutes to bust you. I bet on the pool table it would be even faster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8UxZmAjUjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL3NOn-A9Bs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjSlHr38dc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M18didHSIBE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8UE0j0A21c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4RvZJMPd8

In five more minutes I could really drill you with much more evidence to bust your statements, oops excuse me, opinions.
 
I've got 1700 in vCash that says JB gets the last word in on this pissing match :rolleyes:.

He simply beats his opponents down with persistence/tenacity.

Maniac
 
Trollger all it takes it's five minutes to bust you. I bet on the pool table it would be even faster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8UxZmAjUjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL3NOn-A9Bs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLjSlHr38dc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M18didHSIBE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8UE0j0A21c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP4RvZJMPd8

In five more minutes I could really drill you with much more evidence to bust your statements, oops excuse me, opinions.

Awww, I thought they were going to be clips of you shooting, John. I could watch them all day - they always cheer me up.

You're not doing anything to disprove my theory that aiming systems are for beginners, or those with no natural aptitude for the game. Anyone needing an aiming system for POOL needs to seriously think whether the game is for them or not.

There must be SOMETHING you're good at, surely?
 
Awww, I thought they were going to be clips of you shooting, John. I could watch them all day - they always cheer me up.

You're not doing anything to disprove my theory that aiming systems are for beginners, or those with no natural aptitude for the game. Anyone needing an aiming system for POOL needs to seriously think whether the game is for them or not.

There must be SOMETHING you're good at, surely?

Well, this post of yours proves one thing- either you are out of ammo and just want to troll anyways, or, you are dumber than a box of rocks. All the pros that use aiming systems should rethink whether pool is for them or not??? It's amazing that you even went there!
 
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