I believe a lot on here would do better practicing position and how to control the CB than spending endless hours talking about aiming systems that are only going to get you in the ballpark.
What makes you think that people "on here" who talk aiming don't practice cue ball position?
This is a video I uploaded 11 months ago of me doing a position drill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8DwmGMsa5k&feature=g-upl&context=G23e6263AUAAAAAAAXAA
And how does an aiming system get you in the ballpark?
I don't understand? You are saying that the aiming system a person uses would get them into ballpark position for the next shot?
How would that work?
I was thinking that the speed of the cue ball and where it was hit is what determines where the cue ball goes after it contacts the object ball? Is that not true?
I am flat out TIRED of people trying to put down those of us who want to talk aiming.
WHAT DO YOU REALLY CARE? WHY DO YOU REALLY CARE?
Better position=closer shots=make more balls=make more balls and you will get the feel of all the angles. Johnnyt
Duh, really? This is basic pool. What does it have to do with aiming and talking about aiming?
Why are people like you SO ARROGANT as to assume that those of us interested in aiming are one dimensional? Why do you assume we don't practice other parts of the game or study all aspects of the game.
You should be HAPPY that there are those of us interested enough in aiming to explore everything about it.
All of you whine and complain about how pool is dying and here you have some folks who propose exploring different techniques to aim that can ONLY be worked out on the table which leads to more table time and more enjoyment on the table and you have NOTHING BETTER TO DO than put those people down. It's ridiculous.
You are so arrogant it's unreal. Here we are, people who LOVE POOL, love it and all you can think to do is put us down. Call us fools, and stupid and kooks, gullible, stupid, hacks, etc.....
This forum and all pool forums are supposed to be here for those who LOVE the game to discuss all aspects in a FRIENDLY way.
If a group of people were discussing aiming at your local pool room you wouldn't jump in and put them all down, especially if you KNEW that some of them could really play. So why do you do it here. WHY????
Because it's easy for you? Because you think it's ok to make a new thread putting down a whole category of forum members?
Well, I see people all the time who can control their cue ball, can draw their rock table length and add any spin you want, but they miss a lot. They also miss "easy" shots quite a bit.
Why do they miss Johnny? Tell us your expert opinion. What are ALL the reasons that they could miss a shot Johnny?
What good is cue ball control if you miss?
The TROLLGER says it's all about the cueing (the stroke quality). I don't think it's ALL about that. I think part of it is the stroke and part of it is the aiming.
Because if you aren't on the right line then you can ONLY make the ball by steering the cue ball and IF you are steering the cue ball THEN your positional opportunities are limited.
So what good is it to learn to shoot by COMPENSATING for aiming wrong?
What happens there is you learn really quickly that there are some shots better avoided. You learn to FEAR certain shots because you KNOW that you can't make the shot AND get position. You can shoot a shot five hundred times and still not quite "figure" it out and always be afraid of it IF you can't aim it right. Sure you can learn to compensate for aiming wrong with enough repetition.
Little more to the left, little more, little more, there perfect, oops I want to use right english and not left english, WHAT NOW?????
As opposed to REALLY learning how to aim, really really really learning it and working on the stroke along with it.
THEN when you really really really are SURE you are on the right line to make the ball you can go from there and start playing with spin and speed. But the fact of it is that people LIKE YOU advocate working on position play long before the player is really ready. And it's the fact that most people don't really AIM right that causes them to have poor quality strokes when practicing and playing, especially under pressure.
People like you take aiming for granted, as if it's something that just comes naturally to those who have the talent. Well, you are wrong. Aiming is an important part of the game that can be practiced and honed to a FINE edge. It is next to the stroke the single most important part of the game.
Why?
Because Johnny, with proper aiming and a decent stroke you will make a lot more shots period. You will miss less "easy" shots, you make more of the tough shots. You will do this with NO SPIN and just speed control.
And this stays with you no matter what the shot is. Even when you are left with a tough shot through no fault of your own. You know that happens a lot don't you?
So enough, enough with the denigrating of aiming enthusiasts. We love the game as much or more than you do.
I, or any of the principle aiming system advocates on this forum will be more than happy to have any sort of contest with you that you want to prove that they understand as much about cue ball control as you do and possibly even more.
So how about a little respect? We haven't drawn divisions why should you?