I've heard some whoppers but this....

Over here in the UK, there is a famous pool player called Pat O'Kane. He's essentially retired now but he was a regular on the tv. single figure ranked player, tournament winner etc.. Undisputed "London's Number One" at all codes..

Anyway... Our Pat used to be a bit of a hustler. Very very good at it. One day, he is in a pub somewhere and talking to this guy about a game and the guy's mate says

"You don't want to play him mate. He's mates with Pat O'Kane"

Pat, intrigued by this revelation waits for the guy to return from the loo and says to him "You know Pat O'Kane do you?" To which the mark replies

"Yes mate. Play with him all the time. Know him well. Obviously not as good as him but one of his practise partners"

Crap like that..

Obviously this was all news to Pat so Pat fleeced him anyway..

A few weeks later, our friend happened to walk in to Kentish Town Pool Hall (London's mecca for pool at the time) and Pat on seeing him sends someone over

"Oi! Pat O'Kane wants a word with you! Apparently you've been using his name?"

"What me mate? Not me mate! I'd never do that!"

Anyway, he's taken to see Pat to sort this out... Well.. You can imagine the conversation after that - relentless hysterical piss taking for the rest of the day...
Reading this made me feel a bit English.

Freddie <~~~ the Queen would have me flogged
 
So im sure everyone has heard quite the tales over a pool table, what is the most outlandish pool related tale you've ever heard? I was recently told by a guy that he has pulled of a Z masse. Basically to make it through a couple balls in his way he hit the cueball so that it masse'd and came back in a u turn....then turned again and went back the original direction....obviously he wasnt able to demonstrate such an impossible feat. It was one of those "once in a lifetime" shots that he just felt he could do in the moment... :rotflmao1: how bout you guys? Know some one who claims to have defeated bigfoot in a game of pool?


Two things come to mind

1. The guy who paid $500 for his Cuetec.

2. The guy who "used to be a pro" and played with guys "like Mike Massey and them." If not for the fact that his left hand got smashed and can no longer make a bridge and that he needs to shoot left-handed now....

Guy #2 ended up being my teammate. He claimed I (a lowly crappyt bar league player) was the best player he's seen. Sad.



Freddie <~~~ better than Mike Massey!!!!! Imagine that!!!! Now that's a whopper!
 
One time I had put soooo much spin on the cue ball
...it disappeared and time traveled into another dimension.

My stroke is so strong that I cut a ball in the corner pocket and the cueball sliced a piece off the object ball.

Freddie <~~~ oh wait, that really happened to me!!!
 
So im sure everyone has heard quite the tales over a pool table, what is the most outlandish pool related tale you've ever heard? I was recently told by a guy that he has pulled of a Z masse. Basically to make it through a couple balls in his way he hit the cueball so that it masse'd and came back in a u turn....then turned again and went back the original direction....obviously he wasnt able to demonstrate such an impossible feat. It was one of those "once in a lifetime" shots that he just felt he could do in the moment... :rotflmao1: how bout you guys? Know some one who claims to have defeated bigfoot in a game of pool?
Actually it can be done, Mike Massey does it. It requires the use of a rail but the cue ball does actually travel in a S changing directions.

In the spirit of the thread though, we have all been told by someone how they paid their way through collage playing pool. Then you see them play and they can't even make a bridge. The thing that used to amaze me was they would tell me these tails as I am behind the counter of a pool room I own. What in their minds makes them do they think they can fool someone like me, this is what I do for a living. I would never go into a car garage and try to fool them with a false knowledge of cars, they would know in a second I don't know what I am talking about.
 
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I was giving a guy the 6-out and the breaks on a 9' diamond. We usually played for time and beer, nothing more serious than that because we were buddies.

HIM: You wouldn't like it against me on a bar table.
ME: Why not?
HIM: I play 6 balls better on the bar box.
ME: Really?
HIM: I play about even with Stevie Moore on the bar table.

He'd never even met Stevie Moore, just used him to gauge his speed. We happened to be passing through Columbia, SC a couple of weeks later and stopped in to Grady's. I got him on the bar table, race to 21 even, and beat him something like 21-5. He did not play Stevie's speed that day...something about his "tip being a piece of crap".

Maybe he meant to say Stevie Wonder....:)

J
 
So im sure everyone has heard quite the tales over a pool table, what is the most outlandish pool related tale you've ever heard? I was recently told by a guy that he has pulled of a Z masse. Basically to make it through a couple balls in his way he hit the cueball so that it masse'd and came back in a u turn....then turned again and went back the original direction....obviously he wasnt able to demonstrate such an impossible feat. It was one of those "once in a lifetime" shots that he just felt he could do in the moment... :rotflmao1: how bout you guys? Know some one who claims to have defeated bigfoot in a game of pool?

I would not always be so sure to say something is impossible. A guy came in the pool room and wanted to bet on a shot. I am sure others on here have seen the shot and may even be able to make it. What it is is the object ball is frozen to the long rail about an inch from the corner pocket. The cue ball is at the other end of the table and also frozen to the same long rail about an inch from that corner pocket.

The bet is, he will bank the ball across corner from where the object ball and cue ball are. It looks completely impossible but it can be done legally. He set up the shot and challenged anyone to shoot it to demonstrate how hard it is to do as many shots as they want. After a lot of dickering he wanted like 150 tries they got him down to 40 and they bet him. He made the shot that looked completely impossible in 10.

Would you believe someone who told you they saw a guy make 1200 spot shots in a row no misses? I saw it in fact I saw the same guy make hundreds in a row many times. He would bet on 98 out of a 100 with people who didn't know him and it was a lock. I lost $100.00 to him the first time I met him. As far as I was concerned if he could do it he could have my money. It was amazing how easy he did it. after a few dozen shots you feel he may never miss.
 
I would not always be so sure to say something is impossible. A guy came in the pool room and wanted to bet on a shot. I am sure others on here have seen the shot and may even be able to make it. What it is is the object ball is frozen to the long rail about an inch from the corner pocket. The cue ball is at the other end of the table and also frozen to the same long rail about an inch from that corner pocket.

The bet is, he will bank the ball across corner from where the object ball and cue ball are. It looks completely impossible but it can be done legally. He set up the shot and challenged anyone to shoot it to demonstrate how hard it is to do as many shots as they want. After a lot of dickering he wanted like 150 tries they got him down to 40 and they bet him. He made the shot that looked completely impossible in 10.

Would you believe someone who told you they saw a guy make 1200 spot shots in a row no misses? I saw it in fact I saw the same guy make hundreds in a row many times. He would bet on 98 out of a 100 with people who didn't know him and it was a lock. I lost $100.00 to him the first time I met him. As far as I was concerned if he could do it he could have my money. It was amazing how easy he did it. after a few dozen shots you feel he may never miss.
I think the spot shot guy was mentioned in Pool and Billiard Magazine. Didn't he live in Florida? And as I recall a previous discussion, the cue ball was shot from the head spot. I think I'd bet him if I could spot the object ball where I wanted within a quarter inch of the spot on each shot.

The "Vernon Elliot" bank is with the cue ball frozen at the head string and the object ball on the same side rail just past the side pocket. Bank the ball cross-side. Not that hard with dirty balls -- just ask Joe Tucker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-vXWEA_TU

As for the Z- or S-masse, Leonard Euler's nephew showed in the late 1700s that the path of a massed cue ball is a parabola, and parabolas don't turn two ways. (for real)
 
I always wonder about the guys that want 25 or more tries to make a shot?
Hard to believe they get people to bet with them.
I may kick better then I shoot,a player who knows that, said to me here is a kickshot proposition bet. cb on headspot ob frozen on ctr of bottom rail. Guy wants 20 chances to kick it in to bottom corner pocket,
who would ever give more then 3 chances? I told him for 25 chances I would bet I could kick 10 balls in all frozen in diff places.I made 8 tries and had made 5 balls.
He said I guess my grandma could make that original shot in 25 tries!
 
the russian

its cool how Kenny can beat most pros at the spot shot he does, cue ball in jaw of pocket object ball on spot , monster shot saw him beat shane at it
 
I think the spot shot guy was mentioned in Pool and Billiard Magazine. Didn't he live in Florida? And as I recall a previous discussion, the cue ball was shot from the head spot. I think I'd bet him if I could spot the object ball where I wanted within a quarter inch of the spot on each shot.

The "Vernon Elliot" bank is with the cue ball frozen at the head string and the object ball on the same side rail just past the side pocket. Bank the ball cross-side. Not that hard with dirty balls -- just ask Joe Tucker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-vXWEA_TU

As for the Z- or S-masse, Leonard Euler's nephew showed in the late 1700s that the path of a massed cue ball is a parabola, and parabolas don't turn two ways. (for real)
Thats the guy he did shoot shot to spot. His name was Kenny "Spot shot Kenny" Kiddy. I am certain he is dead now. All he did was slow roll the balls in one after another. When he would practice he would usually get someone to spot the balls for him. My wife would often do it for him and it was nothing for him to make 100 to 300 on average between misses.
 
its cool how Kenny can beat most pros at the spot shot he does, cue ball in jaw of pocket object ball on spot , monster shot saw him beat shane at it

You saw him beat Shane at it? When? Where?

Freddie <~~~ watched Kenny lose to Shane
 
As for the Z- or S-masse, Leonard Euler's nephew showed in the late 1700s that the path of a massed cue ball is a parabola, and parabolas don't turn two ways. (for real)

Exactly, masse works by putting momentum in one direction while making the ball spin in a different direction. Once friction takes over and the direction the ball is spinning catches it goes that direction, but it can not change directions twice without going to a rail or going off another ball. Some pretty funny stories guys! I love the o'kane one
 
Over here in the UK, there is a famous pool player called Pat O'Kane. He's essentially retired now but he was a regular on the tv. single figure ranked player, tournament winner etc.. Undisputed "London's Number One" at all codes..

Anyway... Our Pat used to be a bit of a hustler. Very very good at it.
One day, he is in a pub somewhere and talking to this guy about a game and the guy's mate says

"You don't want to play him mate. He's mates with Pat O'Kane"

Pat, intrigued by this revelation waits for the guy to return from the loo and says to him "You know Pat O'Kane do you?" To which the mark replies

"Yes mate. Play with him all the time. Know him well. Obviously not as good as him but one of his practise partners"

Crap like that..

Obviously this was all news to Pat so Pat fleeced him anyway..

A few weeks later, our friend happened to walk in to Kentish Town Pool Hall (London's mecca for pool at the time) and Pat on seeing him sends someone over

"Oi! Pat O'Kane wants a word with you! Apparently you've been using his name?"

"What me mate? Not me mate! I'd never do that!"

Anyway, he's taken to see Pat to sort this out... Well.. You can imagine the conversation after that - relentless hysterical piss taking for the rest of the day...

After reading this my first thought was "If he was a good hustler...he wouldn't have been on TV....or famous!

Good read though.
 
Two things come to mind

1. The guy who paid $500 for his Cuetec.

2. The guy who "used to be a pro" and played with guys "like Mike Massey and them." If not for the fact that his left hand got smashed and can no longer make a bridge and that he needs to shoot left-handed now....

Guy #2 ended up being my teammate. He claimed I (a lowly crappyt bar league player) was the best player he's seen. Sad.



Freddie <~~~ better than Mike Massey!!!!! Imagine that!!!! Now that's a whopper!

When my son plays in league and is beating up on people 2-3-4 times his age, we often hear "when I was that age I also played that good". This is not from people that are not 70 and can't see or stand as well, it's from people in their 30s and 40s.

Fred, I played with you, you are at least a middling bar league player :p

And my favorite story I got from clueless pool players was from Country Club USA in MA years ago. Two guys with their own cues (cheap stuff from Sears) were playing next table to me. One of them throughout their games was giving really bad advice to the other one, quoting half-assed rules, showing him how to hold the cue the wrong way, etc... Finally the question was, as they were chalking up, "what is chalk for anyway". The second player replied "well you see how some of it falls on the table? It's to season the cloth so it plays better".
 
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