Ivory spelling?

Auction houses often brag about a car having a rare color. Sometimes it helps the selling price, but more often a rare color is rare for a reason - people didn't like it then and don't like it now.

Demand and supply can and do move in parallel. Ivory cue supply will dwindle slowly over time but there's nothing stopping demand from dwindling even faster.
 
Bavafongoul said:
Here is the uncontested truth based on reality which is what’s already occurred throughout history.
Supply & Demand…….the more scarce something is, the more it tends to be worth. It applies to
pretty much everything and it is also applies to pool cues as evidenced by deceased prestigious
cue makers, but also painters, jewelers, musical instruments, fine curios & artifacts, gosh, everything.

So those that have, well they possess it forever and those that don’t, well, they don’t have any say.
The marketplace never lies and time will tell but the handwriting is on the wall…..less is worth more.
Rarity and scarcity largely influence the worth of anything collectible, especially true with pool cues.
Regardless, IMO, cues aren’t a good investment if that’s your primary reason for buying custom ones.
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The last person on earth that could ever think rationally about ivory is you so it is no wonder you get it wrong. Where you go wrong is all in my post though and yet you still choose to ignore it because it isn't how you want things to be. All you look at is the supply side, and refuse to consider the demand side, and not only does the demand side also have an influence that has to be considered, it has an even heavier influence.

Like you said, in time you will see, and you are going to take a bath, and history tells us that you are going to stay in denial all the way until you do (and even then you are going to be on here emphatically stating "one day ivory is going to make a huge come back and prices are going to soar...") because you simply aren't capable of thinking rationally about the subject because you let desire shape your beliefs rather than evidence. You aren't alone, there is a whole political party built on that phenomena.
 
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Funny how you say I’ll take a bath. I get offers to buy my cues so often
it’s become like expecting hot summers. I could flip them now & make
a really nice profit. So live in your own world while I’ll stick with reality.

I choose not to sell because my cues can never be made again or replaced.
Instead, these cues will be valuable keepsakes for my children & grandkids.
It’s interesting how critics of ivory totally dismiss there’s legal, pre-ban ivory.
 
Well one thing is for certain based on some opinions here.. there are laws for a reason, and some people just are in denial on both sides of the argument.
 
classiccues said:
Well one thing is for certain based on some opinions here.. there are laws for a reason, and some people just are in denial on both sides of the argument.
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Best way to get out of denial is when U S Fish & Wildlie agent says you have right to remain silent, and cuffs your dumb ass.
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Well I am sure you keep records to show your doing thing legal.
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Thats not an answer to the question. If I stay within the bounds of the current law, can I sell them? The answer is yes, just like you can also sell a turn of the century BBC cue with an ivory joint. The point is, know the law.
 
Laws can be hard to interpret and vary from state to state. I've seen written laws that needed a lawyer to figure out.

Here is an example of a goofy law in my state: A convicted felon may never be in possession of a firearm. Also in my state, theses weapons are not considered firearms (from Texas Penal Code 46):
(A) an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899; or
(B) a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899, but only if the replica does not use rim fire or center fire ammunition.

In others words, there are countless weapons made before 1899 and after 1899 that meet this criteria. A felon may strap a pair of black powder 1851 Colt Navy pistols and be legal walking on the sidewalk of Dallas, Texas.

Then, there are these provisions for felons owning/possessing a firearm (again from Texas Penal Code 46):
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun;
(2) at the time of the offense:
(A) is younger than 21 years of age; or
(B) has been convicted of an offense under Section 22.01(a)(1), 22.05, 22.07, or 42.01(a)(7) or (8) committed in the five-year period preceding the date the instant offense was committed; and
(3) is not:
(A) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(B) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.

So, if I'm reading this right, a felon may possess a firearm after a five-year period of which I am unsure when that period begins or ends. It also says that a felon may possess a firearm as long as it is kept on the person's own premises or is in their motor vehicle or directly in route to the vehicle.

All confusing, and it is apples-to-oranges when compared to iv**y. But if you are in doubt about any state or federal laws are concerning the possession or transfer of iv**y, you may ought to consult an attorney.
 
Maniac said:
Laws can be hard to interpret and vary from state to state. I've seen written laws that needed a lawyer to figure out.

Here is an example of a goofy law in my state: A convicted felon may never be in possession of a firearm. Also in my state, theses weapons are not considered firearms (from Texas Penal Code 46):
(A) an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899; or
(B) a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899, but only if the replica does not use rim fire or center fire ammunition.

In others words, there are countless weapons made before 1899 and after 1899 that meet this criteria. A felon may strap a pair of black powder 1851 Colt Navy pistols and be legal walking on the sidewalk of Dallas, Texas.

Then, there are these provisions for felons owning/possessing a firearm (again from Texas Penal Code 46):
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun;
(2) at the time of the offense:
(A) is younger than 21 years of age; or
(B) has been convicted of an offense under Section 22.01(a)(1), 22.05, 22.07, or 42.01(a)(7) or (8) committed in the five-year period preceding the date the instant offense was committed; and
(3) is not:
(A) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(B) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.

So, if I'm reading this right, a felon may possess a firearm after a five-year period of which I am unsure when that period begins or ends. It also says that a felon may possess a firearm as long as it is kept on the person's own premises or is in their motor vehicle or directly in route to the vehicle.

All confusing, and it is apples-to-oranges when compared to iv**y. But if you are in doubt about any state or federal laws are concerning the possession or transfer of iv**y, you may ought to consult an attorney.
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So a reproduction of Civil War Revolver is not cover by modern firearms law.

Rob a convince store with one, you in foo foo city.
 
BTW there is a liberal dreams post, in this thread, that is so far off the mark to what is actually happening its laughable. Those that do not know, should not comment.
 
measureman said:
Almost every for sale thread with a cue that has Ivory in it Ivory is Iv**y or "the good stuff" what's up with that?
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I like "all the white stuff is real"
Yep, it is

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Maniac said:
Laws can be hard to interpret and vary from state to state. I've seen written laws that needed a lawyer to figure out.

Here is an example of a goofy law in my state: A convicted felon may never be in possession of a firearm. Also in my state, theses weapons are not considered firearms (from Texas Penal Code 46):
(A) an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899; or
(B) a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899, but only if the replica does not use rim fire or center fire ammunition.

In others words, there are countless weapons made before 1899 and after 1899 that meet this criteria. A felon may strap a pair of black powder 1851 Colt Navy pistols and be legal walking on the sidewalk of Dallas, Texas.

Then, there are these provisions for felons owning/possessing a firearm (again from Texas Penal Code 46):
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:
(1) intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun;
(2) at the time of the offense:
(A) is younger than 21 years of age; or
(B) has been convicted of an offense under Section 22.01(a)(1), 22.05, 22.07, or 42.01(a)(7) or (8) committed in the five-year period preceding the date the instant offense was committed; and
(3) is not:
(A) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(B) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle or watercraft that is owned by the person or under the person's control.

So, if I'm reading this right, a felon may possess a firearm after a five-year period of which I am unsure when that period begins or ends. It also says that a felon may possess a firearm as long as it is kept on the person's own premises or is in their motor vehicle or directly in route to the vehicle.

All confusing, and it is apples-to-oranges when compared to iv**y. But if you are in doubt about any state or federal laws are concerning the possession or transfer of iv**y, you may ought to consult an attorney.
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The bigger issue is most people will take a law that is complicated and try to reword it, so it fits whatever they need it to fit. The ivory laws are very clear, it may take a time or two, but it isn't rocket science.
I took a quick trip to the FS section, and it took me 11 seconds to find an ad that would raise every red flag the law has. YET there it is, made after the ban date and says so, made overseas (so it was imported), and has ivory, and the seller lives in a lockdown state. It will sell no problem. No one will think twice about it. That is reality.
JV
 
Bavafongoul said:
It’s interesting how critics of ivory totally dismiss there’s legal, pre-ban ivory.
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It’s interesting how supporters of ivory dismiss the ethical pre-ban/post-ban reasons for the ivory trade being despicable.

Yo, check out my ballin’ cues grandkids! It’s made with parts of an animal that is endangered, has a complex social system, cognitive and cooperative intelligence, and lives up to 70 years old. Some dudes killed them just for their tusks, and now, for no practical reason or benefit, their tusks are part of my cues. I’m leaving these cues for you as keepsakes, so you can think about the pointless waste of life it took to make them. Enjoy!
 
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