You always seem to post something and then backpedal after getting a phone call or text from the player, you should either stick to your story or just not post it.
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Jayson Shaw is looking for a tournament backer
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You always seem to post something and then backpedal after getting a phone call or text from the player, you should either stick to your story or just not post it.
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Its tough out there...
It's hard out there...Blood, sweat and tears...
Best of Luck to Jayson...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cr0nP3k_p4
It's hard out there...Blood, sweat and tears...
Best of Luck to Jayson...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cr0nP3k_p4
It's a small world.
I don't believe there was any lack of common sense in Kimberly's post.
Mr. Bond suggested that there was an "interesting story no less". This is how the rumors start and the flames are fed.
Kimberly was apparently interested in hearing what the "interesting story" was and how it was going to be told since Mr. Bond suggested that he knew the details.
Kimberly and Jayson had a contract with one another. The contract has been voided and neither party has made their reasons public. I think that is the professional way to handle things like this.
Unfortunately, we are all curious human beings but if Jayson or Kimberly want us to know how or why Jayson isn't sponsored by STR8-SHOTS.com, then THEY will tell us.
No offense to anyone but maybe it is just human nature to want others to think we have an inside track on information that others do not have. I've seen "others" who claim they are party to inside information because they can keep their mouth shut. That is so ironic and funny, it hurts.
JoeyA
I don't believe there was any lack of common sense in Kimberly's post.
Mr. Bond suggested that there was an "interesting story no less". This is how the rumors start and the flames are fed.
Kimberly was apparently interested in hearing what the "interesting story" was and how it was going to be told since Mr. Bond suggested that he knew the details.
Kimberly and Jayson had a contract with one another. The contract has been voided and neither party has made their reasons public. I think that is the professional way to handle things like this.
Unfortunately, we are all curious human beings but if Jayson or Kimberly want us to know how or why Jayson isn't sponsored by STR8-SHOTS.com, then THEY will tell us.
No offense to anyone but maybe it is just human nature to want others to think we have an inside track on information that others do not have. I've seen "others" who claim they are party to inside information because they can keep their mouth shut. That is so ironic and funny, it hurts.
JoeyA
AZBilliards is a social network. I agree, he should create an account and for more than just this. He asked me to make a post, so I did. I still don't see any harm. If he were looking for donations, that would be a different story. This forum reaches out to a ton of people in the pool community, including backers. People like to gamble and some people are looking for a good horse, he's a good horse.
What is backpedaling? It started with me saying that he owed me $150, which was just a way to bust his balls. Then I explained what happened and how I thought it was a pretty shitty way of doing things. I said how I didn't believe he dumped or anything, that he should have called me, and that I'd still back him because I believe he's a good player and a good guy.
Excuse me if I join a mob mentality and bust out the pitchforks and torches at the first mention of something a little bad on AZ. Excuse me if just because someone does something that I don't agree with one time, I don't want to see them dead and in the gutter. You guys are wound tighter than a watch spring around here and you're just waiting to pop. I let level heads prevail. If you knew me, you'd know my personality and how I do things, but that is very hard to get across in this medium. Jayson knew I was busting his balls and that's who the comment was for, not for PETROBOY. Sure, he's a little upset that I put details out there, but that's something he's going to have to live with.
Joey, I was simply answering the question of whether or not Jayson was still sponsored by str8 shots. It's a legit question considering he is now looking for backers.
And to me, it is an interesting story. Which, by the way, does not equate to starting rumors or feeding flames.
It is only natural for people wonder what happened, which IS where rumor and innuendo begin in the absence of truth. And since neither Jayson or his former sponsors are a top secret government agency, there is no reason why their relationship, or lack of, should be considered beyond reproach.
I have not insinuated anything other than I thought it was interesting. I have not blamed nor defamed anyone, so I'd appreciate it if you dont either.
And to me, it is an interesting story. Which, by the way, does not equate to starting rumors or feeding flames.
It is only natural for people wonder what happened, which IS where rumor and innuendo begin in the absence of truth. And since neither Jayson or his former sponsors are a top secret government agency, there is no reason why their relationship, or lack of, should be considered beyond reproach.
I have not insinuated anything other than I thought it was interesting. I have not blamed nor defamed anyone, so I'd appreciate it if you dont either.
No harm, no foul.
A pro friend of mine asked me to post for him on this forum about a matter, and what happened was I got caught in the middle, a place I did not want to be. I was just the messenger and ended up being the only face to address the concerns on this forum.
Yes, AzBilliards is a social medial network, but with the recent history of pros coming on here asking for backing/funding, it did not end up well. I don't want to name names, but you were here. You should remember reading about at least three people within the last year where solicitation for funding/backing turned sour.
I admire you wanting to help Jayson Shaw, but if he's man enough to step up to the plate, he should be man enough to ask for funding on his own. Besides, many backers/stakehorses with those deep pockets that you see at various venues don't even know what AzBilliards is.
The title of this thread is he is looking for a tournament backer, I had thought, not action. If tournament backing is his pursuit, he should avail social medial networks like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, et cetera, develop a website, and develop a brand name for himself.
His showing at the recent U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship was decent. He rose to the top. I do not know him as well as other pros, but I'm sure there are other successes he can capitalize on to promote himself.
You are a good person to want to help him, Cleary, but, again, considering the bad turnout when pros asked for funding/sponsorship on this forum, with a few exceptions like John Schmidt, I think AzBilliards isn't a good avenue for such things. Just my opinion.
No harm, no foul.
A pro friend of mine asked me to post for him on this forum about a matter, and what happened was I got caught in the middle, a place I did not want to be. I was just the messenger and ended up being the only face to address the concerns on this forum.
Yes, AzBilliards is a social medial network, but with the recent history of pros coming on here asking for backing/funding, it did not end up well. I don't want to name names, but you were here. You should remember reading about at least three people within the last year where solicitation for funding/backing turned sour.
I admire you wanting to help Jayson Shaw, but if he's man enough to step up to the plate, he should be man enough to ask for funding on his own. Besides, many backers/stakehorses with those deep pockets that you see at various venues don't even know what AzBilliards is.
The title of this thread is he is looking for a tournament backer, I had thought, not action. If tournament backing is his pursuit, he should avail social medial networks like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, et cetera, develop a website, and develop a brand name for himself.
His showing at the recent U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship was decent. He rose to the top. I do not know him as well as other pros, but I'm sure there are other successes he can capitalize on to promote himself.
You are a good person to want to help him, Cleary, but, again, considering the bad turnout when pros asked for funding/sponsorship on this forum, with a few exceptions like John Schmidt, I think AzBilliards isn't a good avenue for such things. Just my opinion.
Ya got it wrong, just ask Keith....No FOUL no harm .....:thumbup:
This post doesn't look like busting his balls, it looks like you complaining about and not happy about what he had done. And I'm not saying you shouldn't have but it like your posts in Russian Kenny's thread the player contacts you and then its all no I did t mean it like that and you looking back thinking your post was wrong.
If you didn't want that post to be for me or anyone else don't post it. We all read them and take them as they are written or if you meant it to be a fun shot at him make that more clear that's all. Jayson is a great player and will find a backer somewhere. I'm not against him or part of mob mentality I just seen a pattern in some of your posts that's all.
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in a big payout sport like pro golf you can pay expenses. but in pool no way. the player needs to cover his own expenses. and then you put up the entry fee and then divide it up after the end of the time frame you decide upon. the shorter the time frame the less the player gets as it is more of a gamble on luck then..
25% for a one time week long tournament deal is fine and the backer decides which if any the player enters.
few players would take this as they think somehow they are worth more but they arent. and you use net results.
most backers back others because they are friends and want to help out without just giving money away.-- or they are wannabes and want to hang out with a good player.
25% for a one time week long tournament deal is fine and the backer decides which if any the player enters.
few players would take this as they think somehow they are worth more but they arent. and you use net results.
most backers back others because they are friends and want to help out without just giving money away.-- or they are wannabes and want to hang out with a good player.
That wasn't my original post. My original post was "Tell Jayson he still owes me $150 from the Derby when he decided to quit a set early and run to the airport without picking up the phone and calling me." That's busting someone's balls. The post you quoted was a response to someone asking for details. Like I said, I wasn't happy with what he did and I expressed that displeasure.
This is only the second time something like this has occurred where I've had to explain myself further, so to say that "You always seem to post something and then backpedal after getting a phone call or text from the player" is bullshit. I can't put my personality and tone of my voice into a post on the forums, so sometimes people take things the wrong way. Shit gets said, tempers flare, and I've gotta explain myself in deeper detail because most of the people on this forum are simply here looking for a fight or to start shit. Just like you... saying that I always backpedal when what you're referring to happened a grand total of TWICE is someone simply looking to start shit.
Please forgive me for picking just one small area out of your post, but I found this incredibly funny.
"First thing I'd tell him"
Yep, you tell him how to get better shape and not use rails like he wants to.
"First thing I'd tell him"
Yep, you tell him how to get better shape and not use rails like he wants to.
Two posts out of the 173 I've made doesn't make a pattern. It makes it look like you're just wanting to start shit.
You said, "interesting story no less". To me that sure seemed like you knew the story. That's just my interpretation of what you wrote.
It seems the Kimberly is a lightning rod for many posters on this forum. It seems that a few people want to demonize her posts when if they really cared anything about pool, they would be forming a virtual canonized movement for her.
The constant negativity in which a few anonymous posters needle and attempt to get under Kimberly's skin is amazing. She is doing more for pool than any of them ever thought of.
Maybe your post wasn't meant to titillate the perverted interest of a few as to some juicy details yet to be shared on the forum.
I just get tired of people who actually do good things for pool being attacked time and time again by the same people. You aren't in that class but your words seemed to indicate to me that the story had some "juicy details" yet to be shared. Maybe I read more into your post than you actually wrote.......
Ad hominem attacks are the spice that some posters live their lives, at least on this forum and with complete anonymity, and for the most part, free of retribution due to that anonymity and moderators that don't see anything wrong with this type of posting.
Like I said, maybe I read the intent of your post wrong......
JoeyA
Nope I'm not
These are just the 2 threads I noticed you in that involved a player that everyone knows that you had a story to tell and there was a pattern
That's all. Your right it was unfair to make it seem that it was all your posts I'm sorry for that.
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Pool is no Different than other professional sports.
I think it is an interesting story, as to why Jayson Shaw is no longer sponsored.
Correct me if I'm wrong is what I said, EDIT: and I was corrected John Schmidt is still
being sponsored by them. That's the reason for this correction, I what I remembered
was incorrect.-----------> TY to AZ member Marop for correcting me on this.
I went to their website, but couldn't find info on who they still sponsor, seemed odd
I would think the sponsee's would be displayed prominently. Maybe I missed it?
In other sports things like this are written up in the paper or talked about on the sports talk shows.
Why, because people are interested in what goes on, and I see no reason why when one of the
players is looking for sponsorship on Az it shouldn't be discussed.
I see no reason why even if they weren't on AZ looking for sponsorship.
That's what comes with being a professional you are in the public eye, and no reason it
would or should be any different in Pool than in other professional sport.
I HOPE JAYSON FINDS A GOOD BACKER !
I think it is an interesting story, as to why Jayson Shaw is no longer sponsored.
Correct me if I'm wrong is what I said, EDIT: and I was corrected John Schmidt is still
being sponsored by them. That's the reason for this correction, I what I remembered
was incorrect.-----------> TY to AZ member Marop for correcting me on this.
I went to their website, but couldn't find info on who they still sponsor, seemed odd
I would think the sponsee's would be displayed prominently. Maybe I missed it?
In other sports things like this are written up in the paper or talked about on the sports talk shows.
Why, because people are interested in what goes on, and I see no reason why when one of the
players is looking for sponsorship on Az it shouldn't be discussed.
I see no reason why even if they weren't on AZ looking for sponsorship.
That's what comes with being a professional you are in the public eye, and no reason it
would or should be any different in Pool than in other professional sport.
I HOPE JAYSON FINDS A GOOD BACKER !
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What's interesting is you put words in my mouth and then take umbrage to what you said. Now that is interesting!
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Actually, neither of you are interesting.