JB vs Lou - Let's Get It On

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If they play, I'll take JB if someone is willing to lay some odds. You know, since Lou is "stealing"..
 
If they play, I'll take JB if someone is willing to lay some odds. You know, since Lou is "stealing"..

I'll give you 2 to 1. Your 100 against my 200. No this isn't really stealing. Just like JB you'll be giving it away. Just a bad bet.
 
I think two guys matching up to prove or disprove an aiming system is pretty comical. And to choose one-pocket....you may as well choose 3 cushion to prove if CTE works or not. 1 in 5 shots is aimed at a pocket....

The match will never go off. John has nothing to lose, and everything to gain. Lou has nothing to gain, and everything to lose. He's being asked to gamble for more than he won in the first match. First minus. He's dealing with JB, so he knows that no matter if he wins or loses, he will still have to deal with John's antics over the next 18 months, Second minus. If John loses, well....he already lost, and looked bad in the process. So, if it happens again, we all just say "we all knew this would happen". Third minus.

Look at it from Lou's perspective. Let's say he's being backed in this. He may make $3-4k on the endeavour. For some people, they'd go to the end of the Earth for that money. Some wouldn't cross the street for it. I can see Lou's point of just wanting to have the money and the win, and saying "I'm done with JB".

If JB really wanted to play Lou, he'd accept Lou's terms, because there's nothing really out of hand in his proposal. If someone really wants the action, they find a way to make it happen. With negotiations.

JB...if you really wanted to give money away, you could have just sent me the Rugged Case I just ordered from you for free ;)

(and yes, I just said I'm the owner of a JB case. I never thought the day would come, but the man makes a great case for the money...)
 
John has nothing to lose, and everything to gain.
$10-20K??? That is a lot to lose.

A friend of mine once said this, one-pocket is a game of moves.
I don't know who has better moves, Lou or JB.
 
During many negotiations it can look like both sides are stuck but me, being the ever-optimistic fellow I am, I believe that if they want it to happen, Lou and John can work out the details for this re-match.

Stay civil and make some progress boys.

Lots of people would like to see this go off.

There's a real $20k carrot being dangled with just a few basic logistical issues to work out.

Get them worked out. :cool:

best,
brian kc

The chance of this match happening is slim to none due to the terms being "non-negotiable". I thought their last match was quite entertaining.
 
$10-20K??? That is a lot to lose.

A friend of mine once said this, one-pocket is a game of moves.
I don't know who has better moves, Lou or JB.

I don't think JB is struggling for money. I think he likes the action more than any proceeds he may win. Just my opinion.
 
John has nothing to lose

He has $20,000 to lose

Lou has nothing to gain

He has $20,000 to gain

He's being asked to gamble for more than he won in the first match.

For that, he should be grateful

He's dealing with JB, so he knows that no matter if he wins or loses, he will still have to deal with John's antics over the next 18 months

However, John has been civil thus far this time around.

If John loses, well....he already lost, ($10,000) and looked bad in the process. So, if it happens again, we all just say "we all knew this would happen". Third minus. and he loses $20,000 more.



Look at it from Lou's perspective. Let's say he's being backed in this. He may make $3-4k on the endeavour.

If that's all he's making, he's got the wrong stakehorse.




If JB really wanted to play Lou, he'd accept Lou's terms, because there's nothing really out of hand in his proposal. If someone really wants the action, they find a way to make it happen. With negotiations.

Let's not forget, the "customer" is always right! John was outmatched last time. Hopefully John wil play better next time. Although I hate to see John spend his very hard earned money, I can't believe Lou didn't JUMP on the offer.


Answers to your post above in blue. for the record, I would LOVE to see John win the rematch, but I would not bet on it.
 
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Lou has nothing to gain
He has $20,000 to gain
He's being asked to gamble for more than he won in the first match.
For that, he should be grateful


You guys are pretty funny this afternoon.

I hate to crush everyone's hopes and dreams but this match is not going to happen. JB made a *non-negotiable* proffer. I countered and offered to negotiate. That's all I can do. But JB will not negotiate so this match is DOA.

Just to take one of his non-negotiable conditions: match to be played in December. As I explained, I'm traveling a lot in December and won't be playing much pool. So I countered saying I'd play almost any time between now and the week before Thanksgiving, with the exception of a couple of dates on which I have something scheduled with Gail.

Another point: 10 ahead. We're two amateur players. The last time I was two games up after eight hours. So 10 ahead, given our skill levels and past history, is unreasonable. I'm not interested in an extended stay in Oklahoma City, though I hear it's very nice :-)

I could go on about some of his other terms but it's moot. This match will not happen.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Lou has nothing to gain
He has $20,000 to gain
He's being asked to gamble for more than he won in the first match.
For that, he should be grateful


You guys are pretty funny this afternoon.

I hate to crush everyone's hopes and dreams but this match is not going to happen. JB made a *non-negotiable* proffer. I countered and offered to negotiate. That's all I can do. But JB will not negotiate so this match is DOA.

Just to take one of his non-negotiable conditions: match to be played in December. As I explained, I'm traveling a lot in December and won't be playing much pool. So I countered saying I'd play almost any time between now and the week before Thanksgiving, with the exception of a couple of dates on which I have something scheduled with Gail.

Another point: 10 ahead. We're two amateur players. The last time I was two games up after eight hours. So 10 ahead, given our skill levels and past history, is unreasonable. I'm not interested in an extended stay in Oklahoma City, though I hear it's very nice :-)

I could go on about some of his other terms but it's moot. This match will not happen.

Lou Figueroa

Agreed...and no offense but I would definitely rather wack off with sandpaper then watch you two play a 10 ahead match. The stakes are high of course, but that could take an eternity.
 
Agreed...and no offense but I would definitely rather wack off with sandpaper then watch you two play a 10 ahead match. The stakes are high of course, but that could take an eternity.

10-ahead is for pros who go to the bathroom every half an hour or so.
And they go there not to pee.
 
i'm surprised no one has set up a GoFundMe page for Lou yet..... only need 1000 people to contribute $20 each :D
 
Agreed...and no offense but I would definitely rather wack off with sandpaper then watch you two play a 10 ahead match. The stakes are high of course, but that could take an eternity.


10 ahead is absolutely nuts for two guys like us, though I would play before going to the 100 wet or dry.

It could go back and forth for eternity. And to be honest, at 62 years old, eight hours a day -- possibly for days and days -- is a load. JB knows that and he knows I know it and would never agree to put myself in that position.

So one udder thing: it should be abundantly clear to everyone here that John never, not even a little bit, not for a nano-second, wanted to really play. By making a non-negotiable offer with unreasonable terms he gave me no choice but to decline.

Which means that what he really wanted was just another opportunity to endlessly spam the group with his ads and links. He has played *everyone here* for the fool.

Lou Figueroa
 
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