I have never seen Jen dress like a hooker and believe me i would notice!
Jennifer Barretta fan (what say you?)
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Our own sjm was her coach for a decent amount of time, her first serious coach if i recall it correctly. You see her go over to him at the very end of the posted match as a sort of an acknowledgement and also because she knew he was proud of her win that match. No idea what he taught her in regards to her speed and fundamentals, or what he thinks about them.
Without having her play fresh in my memory I won't comment on it, but i can say that 90% of players will never play to their full potential unless they slow down a bit, or put another way, 90% of players play too fast. Yeah I know that isn't what you most often hear and "fast play is the best play" and the "you have to be a rhythm player" and "analysis paralysis" and "most people play too slow" and the like are what you hear far more often and seem to be the en vogue beliefs to hear, especially on the forums (they are the most vocal for sure), but they mostly have it backwards and most people would ultimately play a little better if they slowed down a little. There are a few that would play better if they sped up, but very few, whereas there are tons, the vast majority, that would play some amount better if they slowed down some amount. All kind of mistakes would be avoided by slowing down, whereas comparatively few mistakes will be eliminated by speeding up and indeed they just increase.
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Funny I used to refer to her as Ho Girl lol/... Never been east - just the self promotion, bad movie etc. Turns out she's a climber with a vision and seems to be real player material. Lot of the dog is gone and she plays a solid if somewhat pedantic game. Winner.
She made a big leap in her playing ability about five or six years ago. I think she got serious about improving her game and was tutored by Stu, Hunter Lombardo and a couple of other top New York players.
I think playing faster isn't spelled out correctly. In 9 ball, it really shouldn't take that long to process what the correct shot is. It's this processing that goes haywire for so many of the slow players. It's like they're not following the same simple pattern recognition practices that everyone else is. So they wander around looking at random angles multiple times, and cue ball paths that aren't even legitimate options. Then, there's the players that stay down on the ball forever, like a John Morra. I just don't get how this is helpful in the long run.
I think the trick is to think calmly and sometimes even slowly, but then transition to a quicker execution phase.
I do think most slower players don't actually like playing slow, but they've just had bad results when they speed up so they're just sort of stuck. I also think players like JB who start out later in life tend to play slower as they take a more regimented approach to the game. They miss out on the just playing to have fun phase of the game.
I totally agree that there are players who think things out too much, but there are far more who don't think things out enough at times when they should have. And contrary to what some say, over thinking rarely causes much issue, whereas under thinking causes issues often.
John Morra has the best fundamentals in pool in my opinion although several others are right there as well. You say you don't get how staying down that long is helpful, but I don't see how it couldn't be if he is doing it right (to fully clear his mind and commit to the shot among other things), and I really don't see how it could be hurtful. He isn't being ridiculous about it. He is reducing his errors over what they would be if he went faster, same as you would do if you slowed down a little, although I don't think his pace is the exact right pace for everybody, it varies a little.
As far as Jennifer or anyone else playing slower because they started later in life, and that they don't actually like playing slow, and that they missed out on the "fun phase" of the game, well that all sounds kind of dumb to me and I don't see any evidence for any of it and it defies common sense if you give it any thought at all.
I don't think the thinking, or the execution, phases either one should be fast as it just induces errors that didn't have to be there. They don't have to be stupid slow either as that doesn't serve a purpose once it gets past a certain point. There are very few pros who shoot fast which should tell people something. Efren? Slow, careful, calculated. SVB? Slow, careful, calculated (not stupid slow, but very careful slow). Archer same thing. Same with most pros aside from a few like Filler, Shaw, and Woodward, all of whom now play better than they used to because they have slowed down some, and all of whom would play better yet if they slowed down even more.
I think you think you wouldn't enjoy pool as much if you slowed down, and you end up mixing that up in your mind as being that you wouldn't shoot as well if you slowed down, maybe subconsciously conflating the two to make sure you never feel like you have to give it a fair shot. I haven't ever even seen you play but statistically speaking, and based on the things you've said, there is almost no doubt you would play better if you slowed down a bit. The only question is how much would get you to that perfect sweet spot, but for the vast majority that sweet spot is at a slower pace, at least by a little bit, than that which they currently play.
JB plays very good and has developed a ton of confidence and great results. The fact there are better players doesn't change that she works hard, gets in the ring, and gives her all day after day. If you don't respect that then you haven't gone as far down the road and don't know how much she's put in to get where she is.
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Yeah it was definitely a few years ago. I wanna say 3-4 years ago but sometimes my times off by 3-5 years so who knows
I guess since we are pointing out dumb statements, this one ranks right up there with its presumptuousness. You should let all the world's best players know that they would play even better if they played slower. Is there no limit in your mind to slow play?
That's why I thought he was thinking about someone else, Jennifer does not really strut around the table like Emily does. I thought he had the two confused.
I am sure a lot of people would like to see the proof otherwise........ just sayin
Ding,ding. That's exactly who i thought of.I think you are thinking of someone else. And I think I know who you are thinking off, she is from the same area as Jennifer, quite a bit worse as a player but with a bigger ego and more attitude.
Talk about a dumb statement (and zero abilities for reading comprehension). I already clearly said there is a limit to slow play where at some point it no longer provides additional benefit, or at some point in some cases it could even prove detrimental beyond a certain point. The majority of players haven't yet reached the sweet spot though and still play at least a little bit too fast.
And for the record, the speed I believe would prove most ideal for most people wouldn't probably be what most people would consider slow. It would be along the lines of the speeds most pros use, which tend to be very unrushed, deliberate, careful, and calculated, but it would be hard to call it slow per se except by the type that likes to rush.
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Howdy All;
Seems like I peed in a few folks' Wheaties or at least they act like it. For some
reason that I don't understand what I said was taken as offensive by some of
ya'll. I like this thought expressed or at least attributed to "The Duke";
Thanks for understanding.
hank
Seems like I peed in a few folks' Wheaties or at least they act like it. For some
reason that I don't understand what I said was taken as offensive by some of
ya'll. I like this thought expressed or at least attributed to "The Duke";
Thanks for understanding.
hank
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Hard to play someone so measured..."measured pace" <- Well that is one way to describe it.
Also hard to sell pool when it becomes utterly robotic.
Hahaha...no you didnt!I think you are thinking of someone else. And I think I know who you are thinking off, she is from the same area as Jennifer, quite a bit worse as a player but with a bigger ego and more attitude.
Only time I ran into her in person was during a handicapped tournament in Snookers in RI. She was walking around like she had a tiara and a dress with a train held up by 4 Chippendales guys sprinkling rose petals for her to walk on. She was playing in the event as a "B" LOL
If they want to make pool more interesting and gain viewers, then dress the men like female prostitutes.
Instead of a shootout have a cat fight.
Imagine Appleton in a mini skirt, tube top, and heels, beating the crap out of Shane, wearing a onesie leopard outfit.
Instead of a shootout have a cat fight.
Imagine Appleton in a mini skirt, tube top, and heels, beating the crap out of Shane, wearing a onesie leopard outfit.