Jeremy Jones - TAR
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I'll second that I've really liked what I have heard from him.
Yeah, jj and cotton together are the nuts with one hole no doubt. They got enough stories to pass the time when the game gets slow and there's not many people that know more about one hole than jj. I'd like to see him get up there and play one hole all weekend, but then he couldn't commentate it lol
JJ is the best.
JJ is great. His commentary is very informative.
I always support TAR and JJ is a big plus.
I always support TAR and JJ is a big plus.
I agree. JJ is great. It's not just the obvious amount of pool knowledge he possesses, but the clear and concise way he is able to explain the shots. He also passes on a lot of little secrets during his commentary, like about pattern selection or why the pro shot something a certain way.
JJ is good but OVERALL i think we need LESS commentary and less competition between announcers. JJ was the least annoying in this regard
I really dont think we need to hear a discussion on every shot on the 3 variables each announcer is considering. Very distracting-Puh-lease. Less is more.
I really dont think we need to hear a discussion on every shot on the 3 variables each announcer is considering. Very distracting-Puh-lease. Less is more.
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Jeremy was spot on calling the one pocket match. Great commentator.
JJ is quite good in the booth. I'd rather hear him than watch him...that's for sure.
You guys are wrong
I disagree with all you guys completely, except NoStroke. Jeremy is no kind of announcer. He fails to appreciate the genius of Pagulayan, Alcano et al. He is talking about what he would do ad nauseum. When he gets in there with Cotton, Mr. "He don't do dat", it's unbearable.
You guys might be saying this because Jeremy is a nice guy, or a great poolplayer, but as an announcer he's right up there with, say, Grady Matthews.
What we need is someone who shares our amazement at how great these guys are, how imaginative they are, not someone who says "that's how I would do it", or after a great shot, "that was the wrong shot". The announcer should understand that it's not about him.
We need a Danny DiLiberto type, a "color" announcer, to go along with any analytical guy they want to put in the booth, if we have to have one.
Ken did well.
I disagree with all you guys completely, except NoStroke. Jeremy is no kind of announcer. He fails to appreciate the genius of Pagulayan, Alcano et al. He is talking about what he would do ad nauseum. When he gets in there with Cotton, Mr. "He don't do dat", it's unbearable.
You guys might be saying this because Jeremy is a nice guy, or a great poolplayer, but as an announcer he's right up there with, say, Grady Matthews.
What we need is someone who shares our amazement at how great these guys are, how imaginative they are, not someone who says "that's how I would do it", or after a great shot, "that was the wrong shot". The announcer should understand that it's not about him.
We need a Danny DiLiberto type, a "color" announcer, to go along with any analytical guy they want to put in the booth, if we have to have one.
Ken did well.
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JJ's the nuts, and has a very friendly, smooth delivery. I agree with the poster above who said the announcers shouldn't be stepping all over each other. I think Ken Schuman was way too aggressive. As soon as something came out of JJ's mouth Schuman was disagreeing with it. You should have one guy doing the play-by-play and another (JJ) doing the color commentary. Some friendly banter is fine but it seemed like Schuman was hellbent on proving he knows more than JJ does.
One man's one cent.
One man's one cent.
I disagreed with everything you just said, but especially this. Danny is the worst.
My old boss at a design studio played pool growing up in LA. His first design project was creating the Hardtimes logo. We played a few times and he was quite good for not playing for many years. One day he texted me saying he was watching pool on tv and had to turn it off. "the drunk guy on the mic" was driving him crazy. I turned it on and it wasn't a drunk guy, it was Danny.
I agree with you that JJ is one of the best. TAR is lucky as hell that he is in Vegas and willing to sit in and do commentary for basically lunch money.
I personally will not listen/watch a match that has Danny doing commentary.
If someone reincarnated Mosconi and Fats, stuck in them in a commentary booth calling a match between Efren and God someone would post on AZ billiards that they suck.
I like him because he likes to offer little pool tidbits, actual shooting advice. He said something like... "a lot of players don't really finish their stroke on that shot so they don't go the extra few inches to get perfect shape or get off the rail" and it was really insightful.
It made me aware of when I was about to pull short on my stroke a little and get tougher on the next shot than strictly necessary.
Or he'll talk about minimizing risk with rolling vs. sliding certain shots or finding a position route where you can't get hooked in traffic. That kind of stuff is gold.
edit: just a me-too on Ken S.
He's actually come a long way. No cottonmouth that I heard.
But...
There was a shot where JJ was talking about how alex would cut a ball thinly up the rail and then spin down to the opposite rail for zig-zag shape on the next ball. He said the shot would spin down towards the magic rack and then back across. It was a good, correct call. That's what Alex did.
But for some reason it was important for Ken to say "you think he can spin it all the way to the rack? I think he'll only spin it down as far as the chalk" (like a diamond higher up the rail).
Same shot, just a foot difference in cue ball landing point, but he just HAD to point that out. And afterwards "yeah, exactly, went right to the chalk and then back over. Nice shot." ...like "see, told you so". It's fine if he disagrees on the route but to nitpick stuff like that is pointless.
Danny is not really what I'd consider color. JJ is the steady delivery guy bobby is the color guy, and that's how it should be. Danny D. usually sounds like he's seen it all before (and he has). He will act amazed at a certain shot and that's good, but often he's pretty negative and who wants to hear him say "overcut the room rent" or "overcut his wallet" one more time?
It made me aware of when I was about to pull short on my stroke a little and get tougher on the next shot than strictly necessary.
Or he'll talk about minimizing risk with rolling vs. sliding certain shots or finding a position route where you can't get hooked in traffic. That kind of stuff is gold.
edit: just a me-too on Ken S.
He's actually come a long way. No cottonmouth that I heard.
But...
There was a shot where JJ was talking about how alex would cut a ball thinly up the rail and then spin down to the opposite rail for zig-zag shape on the next ball. He said the shot would spin down towards the magic rack and then back across. It was a good, correct call. That's what Alex did.
But for some reason it was important for Ken to say "you think he can spin it all the way to the rack? I think he'll only spin it down as far as the chalk" (like a diamond higher up the rail).
Same shot, just a foot difference in cue ball landing point, but he just HAD to point that out. And afterwards "yeah, exactly, went right to the chalk and then back over. Nice shot." ...like "see, told you so". It's fine if he disagrees on the route but to nitpick stuff like that is pointless.
Danny is not really what I'd consider color. JJ is the steady delivery guy bobby is the color guy, and that's how it should be. Danny D. usually sounds like he's seen it all before (and he has). He will act amazed at a certain shot and that's good, but often he's pretty negative and who wants to hear him say "overcut the room rent" or "overcut his wallet" one more time?
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think he said he had to back to Texas during that one