Jim Wych

smokeandapancak said:
I dont need any PM's, I read the posts when you made them. I then saw where you edited the replies to comply with your post in this thread. A post that insinuates that "other posters " were saying those bad things about Wych.

FLIP FLOP.........


What ever..... really....just watch the Mosconi Cup... I dont think anybody really cares... I just happend to catch the about face and thought is was odd...........
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The about-face you read is me changing my posts after reading Jerry Forstyh's post.

And yes, OTHER POSTERS, besides myself, were, indeed, posting "bad things about Wych."

I am not understanding why you feel the need to single me out.

Is it because I apologized to Jerry on this thread about MY comments about Wych, et al.?

Or, in the alternative, is it because the OTHER POSTERS, besides myself, did not, in fact, apologize to Jerry or post on this thread?

I cannot see the Mosconi Cup because of my Internet connection today. Maybe you are lucky enough to witness it. I would hope that would be more entertaining to you than engaging in this colloquy with me.

JAM
 
Cheers Jim

I enjoyed a conversation with Mr Wych several years ago at Q Masters during the US Open. He bought me a cold beer and offered candid insites about the match play. I may prefer Incardona, Mathews and Diliberto for their player's perspective...but I have learned respect for Jim Wych. He is knowledgeable and professional and by my experience, a fine person.
 
There was a time where I really disliked Wych's commentary, but as I listened to more and more matches he's done, I've seen him evolve as a commentator.

There is a little bit of back and forth banter between Wych and Billy now which hints at sweat bets and such, it's just that Wych tries not to make it obvious.

He definitely knows the game, though. I've seen some of the earlier matches that he's done, and he predicted shots like a snooker player would, which I did not like at all. He's learned a lot since then, and the last 6 or 7 matches I've heard him commentate, he's been right on the majority of his calls. It shows he's a smart player.

And let's be honest. He's a heck of a lot better than that nutjob guy they had in the early/mid 90's commentating on the Camel Tour events.

I think a lot of people are holding Jim's early commentary against him. I don't think this is fair, as he has DEFINITELY gotten better.

Russ
 
Sire380 said:
I happen to love Jim's commentary. His love for the game really shows and that is what you want from a broadcaster IMO. I actually find some of his eccentric terms entertaining and find my self reciting them as I play with my friends. Here are just a few common "Wychisms". Granted some of these might be common pool broadcasting terminologies.
1. "That ball wiped it's feet on the way in"
2. "He took last years paint off of that ball"
3. "He could not have legislated for that"
4. "That ball took the servicemans entrance into the pocket"
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My favorite is...It's doesn't say how just who.
 
Sorry he might be a great human being and I applaud him for that but lets talk about his announcing and commentary. He constantly pronounces foreigners names wrong. Particularly Taiwanese and Filipinos and specifically Efren Reyes. I know he must have heard Efren's family name many times in his career and he keeps mispronouncing it.
As far as his European sensibilities and proclivities thats fine but why the US Open? Why not an American announcer who knows the real history of pool in America like a Grady or a Diliberto or a Varner. His knowledge of what went on behind the scenes is miniscule compared to those 3. And that is just as important as talking the science of the path of a cue ball. A color man is supposed to give us color. When someone talks about an Earl or John Schmidt or Alex or Rodney or Parica we want to hear from guys who actually was in the pits with them for all the marbles.
Yeah I like cows milk and cookies myself but there are so many alternatives these days that we can end our day with.
 
Jerry Forsyth said:
I have been a friend and coworker of Jim Wych for more than a dozen years and have always ignored the criticisms that I see of him on the forums. I dismiss it when American fans complain about his phraseology because Americans do not understand that our main audience is Europe and Asia where the terms that Jim uses like in-off, double, and pot are the proper and acceptable terms.

But the recent criticisms of Jim are just over-the-top. He has never called Strickland a disgrace or a loser and I know that he personally respects Earl as one of the greatest players ever.

Jim runs a tour in Canada, the Canadian Nine Ball Tour. This year he was able to generate $80,000 in added money for that tour. Unlike most promoters, he put not a penny of the money into his own pocket but chose instead to put it all into the prize funds for the players and even went into his own pocket for $9,000 that he had to pay the Canadian government as a tax for receiving the sponsorship! Can any of you mention another promoter who has done likewise?

As a husband and father he provides his wife and two daughters with a fine home and a loving and supportive and very positive atmosphere. If you wish to nit-pick his commentary, that is fine, but no-one who does not know him should ever attack him personally and should not make statements that have no basis in fact. This game needs more people involved who care as much for the players as Wych and who is willing to work hard to provide them with maximum prize funds and exposure.
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MUCH REP to you for standing up for Wych. I didn't know the things you mentioned but they move Wych and You up ANOTHER notch in my book.
Thanks,
JoeyA
 
yobagua said:
Sorry he might be a great human being and I applaud him for that but lets talk about his announcing and commentary. He constantly pronounces foreigners names wrong. Particularly Taiwanese and Filipinos and specifically Efren Reyes. I know he must have heard Efren's family name many times in his career and he keeps mispronouncing it.
As far as his European sensibilities and proclivities thats fine but why the US Open? Why not an American announcer who knows the real history of pool in America like a Grady or a Diliberto or a Varner. His knowledge of what went on behind the scenes is miniscule compared to those 3. And that is just as important as talking the science of the path of a cue ball. A color man is supposed to give us color. When someone talks about an Earl or John Schmidt or Alex or Rodney or Parica we want to hear from guys who actually was in the pits with them for all the marbles.
Yeah I like cows milk and cookies myself but there are so many alternatives these days that we can end our day with.
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Who cares?

I met Jim at the Canadian 9 Ball Tour stop 3: Ottawa a few weeks back. (http://www.canadian9balltour.com/C9BT3-3Ottawa/) He has tons of great stories about the players and I was fortunate enough to hear some for a few hours over the course of the event. I like the terminology he uses and the way the talks the game. I AM CANADIAN! That is how we speak. I could go on about the nuances of many annoucers that say things that irritate me but I try to appreciate WHAT they say rather than the HOW.

Until you have met him and have a first hand appreciation for then man behind the mic you really can't fathom the type of generous lover of this great game he is.

PS: how do you pronouce HIS last name? I know. Do you?

Great post Jerry! Sorry I missed you in Ottawa. Perhaps in Valleyfield in February?
 
Thanks, All

Thanks to you all for your courtesy. I assure you no ill will was created in any way and that I respect everyone's right to their own opinion. And Jim realizes that many posts are spur-of-the-moment and sometimes over-emphatic. We know that anyone posting here is a friend of pool and therefor a friend of ours. Besides, we enjoy the things that JAM and others write here and would not like to see any lessoning of their presence.

Best Wishes,
Jerry
 
I'm sure he's a swell guy, although that doesn't really affect my critique of his commentary. I certainly agree that he has gotten much better. Still, I can't stand when he says:

9-ball DEPOSITED!

I wish he would quit it with that one phrase. Deposit doesn't even seem to be an appropriate word for the act of pocketing a ball. How about:

9-ball hoarded!
9-ball reserved!
or even
9-ball squirrelled away!

Code: 
deposit
transitive verb
1: to place especially for safekeeping or as a pledge; especially : to put in a bank
2 a: to lay down : place b: to let fall (as sediment)

Synonyms bank
Related Words: cache, hoard, lay away, reserve, salt away, save, squirrel (away), stash, store, stow; invest
 
Jerry Forsyth said:
I have been a friend and coworker of Jim Wych for more than a dozen years and have always ignored the criticisms that I see of him on the forums. I dismiss it when American fans complain about his phraseology because Americans do not understand that our main audience is Europe and Asia where the terms that Jim uses like in-off, double, and pot are the proper and acceptable terms.

But the recent criticisms of Jim are just over-the-top. He has never called Strickland a disgrace or a loser and I know that he personally respects Earl as one of the greatest players ever.

Jim runs a tour in Canada, the Canadian Nine Ball Tour. This year he was able to generate $80,000 in added money for that tour. Unlike most promoters, he put not a penny of the money into his own pocket but chose instead to put it all into the prize funds for the players and even went into his own pocket for $9,000 that he had to pay the Canadian government as a tax for receiving the sponsorship! Can any of you mention another promoter who has done likewise?

As a husband and father he provides his wife and two daughters with a fine home and a loving and supportive and very positive atmosphere. If you wish to nit-pick his commentary, that is fine, but no-one who does not know him should ever attack him personally and should not make statements that have no basis in fact. This game needs more people involved who care as much for the players as Wych and who is willing to work hard to provide them with maximum prize funds and exposure.
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Tap, tap, tap. I applaud Jim and you sir for such a classy post. Jim's one of my favorites.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
In addition, for those that may not know, Jim was a highly accomplished Snooker player and today remains a great Snooker and Pool Player!
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My $$$ is on you, ;) :D


Jim is 100% a stand up guy and is getting better, He is very good now and is a huge assett to our sport, he reads this forum and takes it to heart. I made a remark about his style here on AZ and he changed it a little BEFORE we met. I like him and respect his ability to take constructive critizim. He is welcome in my home anytime.
 
Franky said:
I'm sure he's a swell guy, although that doesn't really affect my critique of his commentary. I certainly agree that he has gotten much better. Still, I can't stand when he says:

9-ball DEPOSITED!

I wish he would quit it with that one phrase. Deposit doesn't even seem to be an appropriate word for the act of pocketing a ball. How about:

9-ball hoarded!
9-ball reserved!
or even
9-ball squirrelled away!

Code: 
deposit
transitive verb
1: to place especially for safekeeping or as a pledge; especially : to put in a bank
2 a: to lay down : place b: to let fall (as sediment)

Synonyms bank
Related Words: cache, hoard, lay away, reserve, salt away, save, squirrel (away), stash, store, stow; invest
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What is cool is he reads this stuff and like I said before takes it to heart. Not many guys do that. He applies himself and deserves to be applauded. We all have our own style and word choices, and yes I agree some things he says are bit different but he is a player and his insight is more important than a verb or adjective(I missed that class too). EXCEPT "Slotted" he isnt ever allowed to use that word again. <----all in good humour.
 
Jim,

If you read this thread, I'd respectfully suggest that we see a bit more of the half friendly type banter that you and Billy have come close to in some matches. You know what I mean, the headbutting of two male egos we get sometimes in the booth. Nothing too over the top, but perhaps a friendly wager of a breakfast/dinner at the start of the match, a la Danny D., and a little good natured ribbing if someone's horse is falling down dead at the finish line, heh heh.

Russ
 
PS: how do you pronouce HIS last name? I know. Do you?
Who cares!? Im not the commentator he is. But I can assure you once Im corrected I will say it right. Youre Canadian? How would you like it if I was a sports caster and said Toronto Blow Jays or the Mabel Life Gardens?
Efren Reyes is the greatest pool player on this planet and he cant get his name right?
Ronnie Alcano the WPC 2006 champ does not rhyme with Volcano. But its the a as in father.
In my book if he loves pool so much why doesnt he try to get it right. This has been going for years now and he still hasnt made any attempt to get it right, eh?
 
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