joe tucker aiming system

Dan White said:
Or, you could give some thought to what Patrick has been saying for all these years instead of having a knee-jerk reaction. Don't you think it is possible that you are subconsciously making adjustments? How can you rule out this possibility when you so gallantly admit you don't know or care how it works? You may not realize that you sometimes realign your cue on the last stroke the way Stan does. If you get lined up and pivot and take a practice stroke along that pivot line, but then change the angle of the cue to pocket the ball, what does that suggest to you? It tells me you are either not doing the CTE method correctly, or you are doing it correctly and then your subconscious steps in at the last split second to pocket the ball.

Unless Stan's new book proves otherwise, I think Patrick's explanation is probably correct. CTE provides a framework or placebo or something to occupy the conscious mind to allow the subconscious to get it right. This seems to be more beneficial for some people more than others.
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Show us how it's done since you have it all figured out. Here's the diagram for all the shots in Colin's potting test and my video doing it.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=122451&highlight=colin's+potting+test

Set the shots up...do YOUR VIDEO taking the test and post it when you're done.

PJ hasn't nor will EVER do it because he's all keyboard and no real life action. He would never place himself in a position to be found out and ridiculed.

How about you, DAN? Are you also a keyboard wizard and no action? Lets see your results:
https://vimeo.com/112628068
 
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Einstein could not pilot a jet airplane, but that did not make him any less of a genius when it came to physics.

Heart surgeons can not create or build a functioning heart but that does not take away from their knowledge of how a heart works.

Stephen Hawking is a paraplegic but his brain still functions at an extremely high level.

Babe Ruth hit more home runs than anyone had ever imagined possible but he knew nothing about the aerodynamics of a baseball in flight.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's testosterone & ego were high enough to get him to win Mr. Olympia 7 times but I would not call him a genius

I'll just stop there.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Show us how it's done since you have it all figured out. Here's the diagram for all the shots in Colin's potting test and my video doing it.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=122451&highlight=colin's+potting+test

Set the shots up...do YOUR VIDEO taking the test and post it when you're done.

PJ hasn't nor will EVER do it because he's all keyboard and no real life action. He would never place himself in a position to be found out and ridiculed.

How about you, DAN? Are you also a keyboard wizard and no action? Lets see your results:
https://vimeo.com/112628068
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So here you are, hijacking an informative thread about Joe Tucker's aiming system with your nonstop CTE war rants.

You're the trainwreck that happens to aiming threads.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
So here you are, hijacking an informative thread about Joe Tucker's aiming system with your nonstop CTE war rants.

You're the trainwreck that happens to aiming threads.

pj
chgo
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Not hardly since I copy and pasted the thread from years ago when Joe Tucker and I were discussing HIS CONTACT POINT AIMING SYSTEM. ON TOPIC.

What you call MY HIJACK is a DIRECT RESPONSE to DAN WHITE'S HIJACK bringing up STAN and CTE!

Originally Posted by Dan White View Post

Or, you could give some thought to what Patrick has been saying for all these years instead of having a knee-jerk reaction. Don't you think it is possible that you are subconsciously making adjustments? How can you rule out this possibility when you so gallantly admit you don't know or care how it works? You may not realize that you sometimes realign your cue on the last stroke the way Stan does. If you get lined up and pivot and take a practice stroke along that pivot line, but then change the angle of the cue to pocket the ball, what does that suggest to you? It tells me you are either not doing the CTE method correctly, or you are doing it correctly and then your subconscious steps in at the last split second to pocket the ball.

Unless Stan's new book proves otherwise, I think Patrick's explanation is probably correct. CTE provides a framework or placebo or something to occupy the conscious mind to allow the subconscious to get it right. This seems to be more beneficial for some people more than others.

GET A DAMN LIFE JOHNSON!!! Better yet...MAKE A VIDEO OF YOU AT THE TABLE DOING ANY THING YOU WANT INCLUDING JOE TUCKER'S SYSTEM!
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Was in response to you bringing up Joe's comments about CTE.

You're a 100% LIAR!! Joe NEVER commented about CTE nor DID I. We were talking about PIVOTING in HIS CONTACT POINT AIMING SYSTEM and CJ WILEY'S AIMING PROCEDURE in that old thread!! This is YOU making CRAP UP!

So now you've driven an entirely positive thread about your buddy Joe's aiming system off the tracks into the cesspool of your private CTE war obsession. Good job.

pj
chgo
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Nothing is off track from what I've done, but you're doing a great job not only to deflect it and place blame WHILE YOU'RE THE ONE ACTUALLY DOING IT but also to BACK PEDAL from having attention drawn to you to DO A VIDEO of yourself DEMONTRATING JOE'S SYSTEM or YOUR OWN.

I haven't even mentioned those 3 letters. You and Dan White have.

DO A CONTACT POINT VIDEO!!
 
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Stephens Hawking is a paraplegic & basically can not DO anything.

That does NOT diminish the ability of his brain to reason & perform critical & logical thinking at an extremely high level.

To equate physical performance to intelligence is ludicrous to say the least.

One does not need a video of Mr. Hawking in outer space in order to give credence to his intelligence on the subject matter.

If one demanded or even requested a video as a means of him 'earning' credibility would seem to say something about the individual making the demand or the request.

Best Wishes to All.
 
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Those videos done by CJ Wiley explaining and demonstrating TOI and his other ways of playing pool were quite revealing and effective, weren't they? I mean you are a true believer and user of it now so they had to be of benefit.

And your boy genius who supposedly has all this intelligence blasted CJ and TOI.
How do you explain that?

You're not being consistent with your own thoughts, English. I guess you aren't close to being Stephen Hawking either.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Those videos done by CJ Wiley explaining and demonstrating TOI and his other ways of playing pool were quite revealing and effective, weren't they? I mean you are a true believer and user of it now so they had to be of benefit.

And your boy genius who supposedly has all this intelligence blasted CJ and TOI.
How do you explain that?

You're not being consistent with your own thoughts, English. I guess you aren't close to being Stephen Hawking either.
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No Dave.

You're wrong. I was convinced about TOI right here by CJ's explanations of it, with no video. I do not even have the TOI DVD. It was not needed at all.

I've never called Patrick a genius & certainly do not see him as one.

I'm just NOT prejudiced against Patrick just because we do not agree about a 'parameter' regarding TOI.

I am also logical enough to not associate a disagreement with another individual's intelligence level & especially not regarding another subject matter.

CJ's videos proved nothing other than that he can make shots. It was his explanations here that made sense.

Video is very limited in many regards even though it can be a good tool if used properly, but it is not proof of anything at all in certain applications.

I am very consistent in my thoughts & thinking & I have been tested 3 times & have scored right under the level of what would be considered genius.

That only means whatever it does to whomever it does. Which is basically nothing to no one & not even me. You see, I know the limits of my knowledge or what others think is knowledge.

Perhaps that in & of itself is genius.

There also is a difference between one's intelligent quotient & what one wants to try to learn or not learn with it & what one does or does not learn with it.

One thing that I did learn was to not let my ego or my testosterone level inhibit my cognitive thinking ability or to act arrogant & condescending to people.

Best Wishes to You & All.
 
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ENGLISH! said:
I am very consistent in my thoughts & thinking & I have been tested 3 times & have scored right under the level of what would be considered genius.

What level did your test scores calculate your IQ to be? Who administered the tests and when?

There also is a difference between one's intelligent quotient & what one wants to try to learn or not learn with it & what one does or does not learn with it.

Maybe it's better to have a lower IQ when it comes to pool because you've come to realize you aren't a know it all and prejudge every thing.

One thing that I did learn was to not let my ego or my testosterone level inhibit my cognitive thinking ability or to act arrogant & condescending to people.

Best Wishes to You & All.
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So what was it that got you banned for a considerable length of time and most recently to get a threat of a ban if you didn't confine yourself to your own threads?
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Calm down.

I don't need to calm down. You're a LIAR.

Oh, right... he commented about "Hal Houle's method".

lol

"HE" wasn't JOE TUCKER. JOE SAID NOTHING ABOUT HAL HOULE'S METHOD. That was FRED AGNIR who also didn't use the letters CTE because Fred was familiar with many of HAL HOULE'S other aiming systems that ALL USE a PIVOT. All of a sudden you have reading comprehension problems in identifying Fred Agnir from Joe Tucker? You're a LIAR.

PIVOTS WERE THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION AND STARTED WITH JOE'S CONTACT POINT AIMING SYSTEM BY THE NUMBERS WHICH HE ACKNOWLEGED WHEN HE WAS SHOOTING BALLS.



pj
chgo
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Since you're trying your best to obfuscate everything again to save face, I guess it also means you won't be doing an instructional video of your version of Contact Point Aiming or attempting Colin's Potting Test with your system of choice, correct. That's OK, I already know the answer Mr. Keyboard pool whiz.

You wouldn't dare want to be discovered as something other than a pool encyclopedia yet couldn't make half the shots and then face ridicule. LOL
 
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ENGLISH! said:
Stephens Hawking is a paraplegic & basically can not DO +anything.
That does NOT diminish the ability of his brain to reason & perform critical & logical thinking at an extremely high level.

To equate physical performance to intelligence is ludicrous to say the least.

One does not need a video of Mr. Hawking in outer space in order to give credence to his intelligence on the subject matter.

If one demanded or even requested a video as a means of him 'earning' credibility would seem to say something about the individual making the demand or the request.

Best Wishes to All.
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hmm...seems like critical thinking would make one not want to compare themselves to someone that most now believe is wrong about more things than he is actually right about.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Another CTE derailment.

Which YOU CREATED! Nobody was talking about it and still isn't except you continuing to bring it up.

I hope the message about Joe's good system isn't buried in the wreckage.

pj
chgo
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Not if you post the video of yourself at the table explaining Joe's good system and how you get it to work as he teaches it. Hey, throw in some of your own stuff that makes your version of Contact Point aiming even BETTER than Joe's.

I know at one time you even wanted to make your own invention of Joe's training balls with 11 numbers instead of Joe's 10. Is that soon hitting the marketplace?
LMAO

"The most detailed I've seen is Joe Tucker's "Aiming By The Numbers" system, which breaks the CB and OB into 1/10ths (I've been thinking of inventing my own system that goes to 11)".

pj
chgo
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Not if you post the video of yourself at the table explaining Joe's good system and how you get it to work as he teaches it. Hey, throw in some of your own stuff that makes your version of Contact Point aiming even BETTER than Joe's.

I know at one time you even wanted to make your own invention of Joe's training balls with 11 numbers instead of Joe's 10. Is that soon hitting the marketplace?
LMAO

"The most detailed I've seen is Joe Tucker's "Aiming By The Numbers" system, which breaks the CB and OB into 1/10ths (I've been thinking of inventing my own system that goes to 11)".

pj
chgo
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Dave - you're too young to understand how funny this is (the stuff in red). Do you know why Patrick said what he said about a system that "goes to 11"?
 
Dan White said:
Dave - you're too young to understand how funny this is (the stuff in red). Do you know why Patrick said what he said about a system that "goes to 11"?
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Because he's nuttier than a loon which for the most part he's proven himself and to be by others?

If it's an inside joke lay it on me, a laugh is always a good thing. I LMAO daily with these posts from everyone including my own.

(I thought you didn't know him that well except for 2 or 3 posts here and there in the OLD days)
 
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Dan White said:
Dave - you're too young to understand how funny this is (the stuff in red). Do you know why Patrick said what he said about a system that "goes to 11"?
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With 4.00" pockets on a 9 ' table and 6 diamond separation between the OB
and the pocket, one may need more than 11.:)
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Set the shots up...do YOUR VIDEO taking the test and post it when you're done.

How about you, DAN? Are you also a keyboard wizard and no action? Lets see your results:
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I gave it a shot because I thought it might be a fun challenge. Missed one - shooting too fast. I also just realized that I only repeated that shot only once... oops. Pretty boring to watch, if you ask me:

https://youtu.be/g9BtH1nzJ6s

Of course this proves nothing. By your implied logic, if you can't make these shots then you don't know what you are talking about and don't have a valid opinion. On the other hand, now that I have equaled your performance that should mean that my opinion is just as good as yours, and by proxy, then, the opinion of everybody I agree with is as good as yours. So why don't we get past telling people their opinion doesn't matter and just debate on the points made?
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Because he's nuttier than a loon which for the most part he's proven himself and to be by others?

If it's an inside joke lay it on me, a laugh is always a good thing. I LMAO daily with these posts from everyone including my own.

(I thought you didn't know him that well except for 2 or 3 posts here and there in the OLD days)
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I assure you that you have had far more interaction with PJ in the last year than I have had in 20. He cracks me up on almost every post, though. You have to admit he's got some very witty replies.

Ever hear of Spinal Tap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o
 
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