JoeyA Goes to Valley Forge (to do commentary)

AzHousePro said:
No separate events on this one. We made the plans with Allen for the men's pro event and announced our streaming back in mid Feb. The "late" announcement for the exact same thing came just last week from the other party.
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Not for nothing, but, if you're talking about InsidePOOL, I've known that they were doing a stream of the pro even for longer than a week. It was at least in February when I heard about it. So, if I heard about it February, then a whole slew of people must have as well. Just not here, I guess.

My statement makes no other comment on anything that's being discussed here.

Fred
 
What would you like to see/hear from Pool commentators?

What are some of the things that you would like to hear pool commentators talk about besides the play taking place and stories from the road?

Do you purchase pool tapes for the quality of the match or the insight that pool commentators provide?

And for the record, please list the things you dislike the most about what pool commentators do/say.

Is there something specific that you would really like to see pool commentators discussing that you don't normally see?
Thanks,
JoeyA
 
watchez said:
So if the announcement was just made last week but you had been planning on this event since February - would I be correct in assuming that you already made travel arrangements and incurred costs along with preparation time before you found out that you were snubbed or grouped together (however you want to view it) with another entity.

Nice for JCIN and it sounds like possibly AZBTV to once again think of the fans first and not want to attempt his stream and ruin it for the innocent bystanders (fans). I am from NY and don't think I could be that nice.

I'll give Allen Hopkins the benefit of the doubt in not knowing that there are limitations to the # of streamers the center could accomodate. The late arriving party, however, has streamed before and obviously would know of this limitation.
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As noted by Fred, both parties had probably made arrangements in February. Close to the same time.

What I would like to know is this:

Who is willing to bow out if there is only enough upload speed for (1) party?

TAR is willing to bow out, we already know, but what about the others?

Ray
 
JoeyA said:
What are some of the things that you would like to hear pool commentators talk about besides the play taking place and stories from the road?

Do you purchase pool tapes for the quality of the match or the insight that pool commentators provide?

And for the record, please list the things you dislike the most about what pool commentators do/say.

Is there something specific that you would really like to see pool commentators discussing that you don't normally see?
Thanks,
JoeyA
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Tell us about all the road men you busted! :eek:

People do love to hear stories about top players and big games. What's best is if you can somehow incorporate that into the match we are watching. Like maybe a story or two about one of the players. Better yet, if you have played one of these guys, tell us about it.

On another note Joey. Just to show you I'm not a "One Trick Pony", I will play you some One Pocket. I just want 8-6! :rolleyes:

Don't faint Joey, I was only kidding! 8-7 is fine!
 
JoeyA said:
What are some of the things that you would like to hear pool commentators talk about besides the play taking place and stories from the road?

Do you purchase pool tapes for the quality of the match or the insight that pool commentators provide?

And for the record, please list the things you dislike the most about what pool commentators do/say.

Is there something specific that you would really like to see pool commentators discussing that you don't normally see?
Thanks,
JoeyA
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One thing that occasionally bugs me is when a commentator is quick to say something like, "This is an easy out from here." and tunes out of the match when there are still more than 5-6 balls left on the table. To me that just seems like lazy broadcasting.

I'm not talking about exaggerating the odds, but seems like it's often not just getting out that's important so much as doing it in a solid and controlled way so you can really put the pressure on your opponent.

Again, good luck Joey!! Have fun!! :D
 
Joey:

I just want a commentator to be themselves and not try to be "conditioned" for the broadcast. If you think someone is playing a stupid shot - say it. If you think a guy is gonna blast through his opponent faster than shit goes through geese, say that too. All I want is for the commentator to talk as if he's calling the action from a money game with a bunch of gamblers as his audience.

Too clean and too dumbed-down is boring, I think.

Good luck!
Dave
 
SpiderWebComm said:
If you think a guy is gonna blast through his opponent faster than shit goes through geese, say that too. Dave
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Could I add a little more couth to it? :D

How does everyone else feel about this? Does everyone want the commentator to make a prediction with such candor?
JoeyA
 
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AzHousePro said:
Anyone who bows out now is out the expenses of airfare to get to the venue.

Mike
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It is sounding like, from another thread here, that there IS a way, with this venue, to stream by multiple people! I hope this is accurate.

Look forward to ALL the streams!

Ray
(practicing my alt/tab now) LOL
 
Ray, just learn how to crop the windows. Then you wont get carpal tunnel syndrome. Well atleast not from ALT/TAB... :eek: :thumbup:

Bigtruck said:
It is sounding like, from another thread here, that there IS a way, with this venue, to stream by multiple people! I hope this is accurate.

Look forward to ALL the streams!

Ray
(practicing my alt/tab now) LOL
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I don't know how much it means to the streamers, but the booths had options of having internet access run to them. With that many booths, I think they would have to have a lot of ooommmmppppffffff to handle the load. Just my 2 cents worth.

Okay. Found it. We had options for telephone line or highspeed ethernet connection and the option for additional connections and tech assistance.

Am I on the wrong track, again?
 
JoeyA said:
What are some of the things that you would like to hear pool commentators talk about besides the play taking place and stories from the road?

Do you purchase pool tapes for the quality of the match or the insight that pool commentators provide?

And for the record, please list the things you dislike the most about what pool commentators do/say.

Is there something specific that you would really like to see pool commentators discussing that you don't normally see?
Thanks,
JoeyA
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Joey, congrats with your new job! During the Derby you mentioned that you might get some commentary gigs, and I am happy to see that your wife is letting you out of the dog house.

I have done some commentating for norwegian TV, and may have some input:

1. I hope you are two commentators in the box. If you are, you should try to adapt one role each - one should be the "expert commentator" who analyses the game and whats happening on the table, and the other one should ask the "stupid questions" and perhaps come up with funny stories about the players and "off table" info. That will give a nice interaction between you two, and certainly give the wolves in the chat room opportunity to come up with questions / comments.

2. Before the match, try to gather some non-pool info about the players. Since this is a stream, the people who are watching, are likely to be hardcore pool fans. If the run out is simple, you therefore need something else to talk about. Non pool info or details about why players aim / act / stroke in a certain / unusual way will surely be appreciated. (example: he holds his cue under his right ear because he is virtually blind on the left eye..- niels feijen) or (he used to be a macho dancer in a gay bar - I will not tell you who..)

3. Some times it can be hard to differentiate the colors and the balls from eachother. Its nothing wrong in saying: "The blue 2-ball next to the orange 5-ball"

4. Its OK to be quiet for 20 seconds.

5. Drink water

Good luck, you are more than articulate enough to do a very nice job.
 
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JoeyA said:
What are some of the things that you would like to hear pool commentators talk about besides the play taking place and stories from the road?

Do you purchase pool tapes for the quality of the match or the insight that pool commentators provide?

And for the record, please list the things you dislike the most about what pool commentators do/say.

Is there something specific that you would really like to see pool commentators discussing that you don't normally see?
Thanks,
JoeyA
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Maybe giving a little strategy discussion on the table before us. I will watch a game I do not even understand, if the commentator helps me understand it in a way that is not belitting, when he is discussing the shots.

If the tapes are really good, I learn a new perspective on shots, but I really enjoy competitive games.

I think this stuff will go a long way if it stays clean enough for the little kids to watch, but the strategy and skill is discussed enough to make every grown up want to learn. When you have people talking about how cute someone's butt is (or other body parts), or a commentator that is getting a bit over the top (alcoholically speaking) is a bit too much. The chat needs to stay cleaner, also, or I'll find another game to watch.

Good luck out ther, you guys.
 
pooladdict said:
Joey, congrats with your new job! During the Derby you mentioned that you might get some commentary gigs, and I am happy to see that your wife is letting you out of the dog house.

I have done some commentating for norwegian TV, and may have some input:

1. I hope you are two commentators in the box. If you are, you should try to adapt one role each - one should be the "expert commentator" who analyses the game and whats happening on the table, and the other one should ask the "stupid questions" and perhaps come up with funny stories about the players and "off table" info. That will give a nice interaction between you two, and certainly give the wolves in the chat room opportunity to come up with questions / comments.

2. Before the match, try to gather some non-pool info about the players. Since this is a stream, the people who are watching, are likely to be hardcore pool fans. If the run out is simple, you therefore need something else to talk about. Non pool info or details about why players aim / act / stroke in a certain / unusual way will surely be appreciated. (example: he holds his cue under his right ear because he is virtually blind on the left eye..- niels feijen) or (he used to be a macho dancer in a gay bar - I will not tell you who..)

3. Some times it can be hard to differentiate the colors and the balls from eachother. Its nothing wrong in saying: "The blue 2-ball next to the orange 5-ball"

4. Its OK to be quiet for 20 seconds.

5. Drink water

Good luck, you are more than articulate enough to do a very nice job.
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Excellent advice! I totally agree.

And, the reason for the stupid questions is to help the people learn without feeling stupid for not knowing. If they are confused and have no answers, they might not ask. They might just go find something else to watch.
 
pooladdict said:
Joey, congrats with your new job! During the Derby you mentioned that you might get some commentary gigs, and I am happy to see that your wife is letting you out of the dog house.

I have done some commentating for norwegian TV, and may have some input:

1. I hope you are two commentators in the box. If you are, you should try to adapt one role each - one should be the "expert commentator" who analyses the game and whats happening on the table, and the other one should ask the "stupid questions" and perhaps come up with funny stories about the players and "off table" info. That will give a nice interaction between you two, and certainly give the wolves in the chat room opportunity to come up with questions / comments.

2. Before the match, try to gather some non-pool info about the players. Since this is a stream, the people who are watching, are likely to be hardcore pool fans. If the run out is simple, you therefore need something else to talk about. Non pool info or details about why players aim / act / stroke in a certain / unusual way will surely be appreciated. (example: he holds his cue under his right ear because he is virtually blind on the left eye..- niels feijen) or (he used to be a macho dancer in a gay bar - I will not tell you who..)

3. Some times it can be hard to differentiate the colors and the balls from eachother. Its nothing wrong in saying: "The blue 2-ball next to the orange 5-ball"

4. Its OK to be quiet for 20 seconds.

5. Drink water

Good luck, you are more than articulate enough to do a very nice job.
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I knew that hanging out with you and Roy would eventually pay off. Sometimes the rewards are slow on coming forth. ;)
Thanks for all of the great tips Chris. :)

BTW, that macho dancer in the gay bar... his first name wouldn't begin with an "R" and also hail from the same country as you? LOL
JoeyA
 
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