Johan ruijsink usa captain 2017

Here is part of a BD article that provides adequate info on the subject: Interesting to say the least !!



For those not familiar, the Dutch-born Ruijsink captained Team Europe seven times between 2006 and 2014 and posted a 6-0-1 record.

I know. I know. He’s not American. I realize Willie Mosconi just spun in his grave.

Just hear me out.

Johan Ruijsink is one of the world’s top instructors and coaches. The 50-year-old Dutchman took over Team Europe during those years of American domination and turned the squad into the fierce competitors that they are today. His first year at the helm was 2006, when his team tied the Americans, 12-12. After that, Team Europe won six times against zero defeatswith Ruijsink in charge.

Think he was simply fortunate enough to take over Team Europe as they were peaking? The last time Team USA won (2009), was one of only two times between 2006 and 2014 that Ruijsink was not Europe’s captain.

Now, about that “he’s not an American” argument.

Who says the coach must be American. Sports history is littered with instances of foreigners running national teams. Were Americans offended when Romanian gymnastics coaching legend BelaKarolyi took over Team USA and turned it into a gold medal machine? Were American soccer fans up in arms when Sweden’s PiaSundhage took over USA Soccer’s women’s program and produced a pair of Olympic gold medals? The bottom line is to maximize Team USA’s chances of not just competing in the Mosocni Cup. The bottom line is to drive Team USA to win the Mosconi Cup. Of course, Ruijsink is much more than simply a once-a-year-captain.

He is a coaching legend in Europe. A former top Dutch player, Ruijsink turned to coaching in the ’90s. His small, six-table room in The Hague was open only to players committed to training. Ruijsink’s training methods turned Holland into a European power, with the likes of Rico Diks, Alex Lely, Nick Van den Berg and NielsFeijen turning their games over to him.

A voracious student of training and coaching techniques, Ruijsink earned a Master Coach degree from the Dutch Olympic Committee in 2000. It is the highest coaching education in Holland, allowing him to coach any sport. Over the past two years, Ruijsink has been coaching in Russia, where the Russian federation hired him to develop its crop of talented young shooters, like Konstantin Stepanov, RuslanChinakhov and rising star Maxim Dudanets. Ruijsink will be bringing his Russian brigade to the Derby City Classic in January.

Trust me on this one. If change is necessary, this is the right man for the job.

I guarantee one thing: Announcing Ruijsink as Team USA captain would scare the living bejeezus out of Team Europe.

 
ChicagoRJ said:
Here is part of a BD article that provides adequate info on the subject: Interesting to say the least !!



For those not familiar, the Dutch-born Ruijsink captained Team Europe seven times between 2006 and 2014 and posted a 6-0-1 record.

I know. I know. He’s not American. I realize Willie Mosconi just spun in his grave.

Just hear me out.

Johan Ruijsink is one of the world’s top instructors and coaches. The 50-year-old Dutchman took over Team Europe during those years of American domination and turned the squad into the fierce competitors that they are today. His first year at the helm was 2006, when his team tied the Americans, 12-12. After that, Team Europe won six times against zero defeatswith Ruijsink in charge.

Think he was simply fortunate enough to take over Team Europe as they were peaking? The last time Team USA won (2009), was one of only two times between 2006 and 2014 that Ruijsink was not Europe’s captain.

Now, about that “he’s not an American” argument.

Who says the coach must be American. Sports history is littered with instances of foreigners running national teams. Were Americans offended when Romanian gymnastics coaching legend BelaKarolyi took over Team USA and turned it into a gold medal machine? Were American soccer fans up in arms when Sweden’s PiaSundhage took over USA Soccer’s women’s program and produced a pair of Olympic gold medals? The bottom line is to maximize Team USA’s chances of not just competing in the Mosocni Cup. The bottom line is to drive Team USA to win the Mosconi Cup. Of course, Ruijsink is much more than simply a once-a-year-captain.

He is a coaching legend in Europe. A former top Dutch player, Ruijsink turned to coaching in the ’90s. His small, six-table room in The Hague was open only to players committed to training. Ruijsink’s training methods turned Holland into a European power, with the likes of Rico Diks, Alex Lely, Nick Van den Berg and NielsFeijen turning their games over to him.

A voracious student of training and coaching techniques, Ruijsink earned a Master Coach degree from the Dutch Olympic Committee in 2000. It is the highest coaching education in Holland, allowing him to coach any sport. Over the past two years, Ruijsink has been coaching in Russia, where the Russian federation hired him to develop its crop of talented young shooters, like Konstantin Stepanov, RuslanChinakhov and rising star Maxim Dudanets. Ruijsink will be bringing his Russian brigade to the Derby City Classic in January.

Trust me on this one. If change is necessary, this is the right man for the job.

I guarantee one thing: Announcing Ruijsink as Team USA captain would scare the living bejeezus out of Team Europe.
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Yes, but every one of those foreign coaches did their work with an American team in America, not from overseas.

Johann's credibility is very high among Americans, his track record impresses every single one of us. But seriously, he's going to train our guys from across the Atlantic? And, seriously, are the guys he's influenced even on a par with those influenced by Mark Wilson, also widely recognized as one of the world's greatest coaches.

Outside of team chemistry and morale building, at which he's quickly been equaled by successor Chamat, what knowledge does Johann possess that will allow him to win with a team that is a big underdog year after year?

The skills gap is wide. How will he bridge it? Why isn't this question considered in this article? I know why not -- because there's no reason to believe that he can bridge it unless he's planning on doing the job in America.

If that were his plan, it would have bee mentioned in the article, which, instead, is filled with nothing but hot air.
 
sjm said:
Yes, but every one of those foreign coaches did their work with an American team in America, not from overseas.

Johann's credibility is very high among Americans, his track record impresses every single one of us. But seriously, he's going to train our guys from across the Atlantic? And, seriously, are the guys he's influenced even on a par with those influenced by Mark Wilson, also widely recognized as one of the world's greatest coaches.

Outside of team chemistry and morale building, at which he's quickly been equaled by successor Chamat, what knowledge does Johann possess that will allow him to win with a team that is a big underdog year after year?

The skills gap is wide. How will he bridge it? Why isn't this question considered in this article? I know why not -- because there's no reason to believe that he can bridge it unless he's planning on doing the job in America.

If that were his plan, it would have bee mentioned in the article, which, instead, is filled with nothing but hot air.
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In fairness, the article was written prior to any new coach pick. Also, not really sure which part is "hot air", surely not a masters degree in coaching, running his own academy, his top flight playing skills, his consecutive win streak at MC, or his now be hired to work with the Russians.

I assume the question about how will he bridge the "skills gap" is not within the writers expertise, otherwise he would have been selected as MC captain.

And I was not aware of the training location? So, has it been official that MC won't by Johann an overseas ticket to the US ?
 
ChicagoRJ said:
In fairness, the article was written prior to any new coach pick. Also, not really sure which part is "hot air", surely not a masters degree in coaching, running his own academy, his top flight playing skills, his consecutive win streak at MC, or his now be hired to work with the Russians.

I assume the question about how will he bridge the "skills gap" is not within the writers expertise, otherwise he would have been selected as MC captain.

And I was not aware of the training location? So, has it been official that MC won't by Johann an overseas ticket to the US ?
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If Johann will focus on training American players right here, face to face, in the US to the same extent that a US based coach would have, I'm prepared to retract what I've written. I'm think it highly unlikely and almost inconceivable, but if he's going to embrace the job to the extent that Jay Helfert offered to, he'll meet with nothing but enthusiasm from me and other US fans.
 
If Johann can do what American coaches could not it will simply prove Europe > America further.

America cannot win the next Mosconi Cup, even if they somehow do.

Either the USA players are so bad even Johann cannot get them to win, or the Americans finally get a win in the MC thanks to Europe loaning them their secret weapon coach. Europe is laughing either way.
 
Celtic said:
If Johann can do what American coaches could not it will simply prove Europe > America further.

America cannot win the next Mosconi Cup, even if they somehow do.

Either the USA players are so bad even Johann cannot get them to win, or the Americans finally get a win in the MC thanks to Europe loaning them their secret weapon coach. Europe is laughing either way.
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If US wins MC nobody in Europe will be laughing, that I'm sure of. Nobody in Romania was laughing when USA was winning gold after gold.

Pool is the only sport with "special" circumstances? Unless you're a pro pool player, folks think you cannot possible teach the game. If you are not American born, you can't coach the US team. I've yet to see any other sport with these restrictions. Is pool really so much special than all of the other sports ? Just asking ;)
 
sjm said:
Looks like I posted in the wrong thread, so, to repeat myself:

While Johann is a proven winner and a very highly respected instructor, there are a few reasons that this choice seems unusual, and I'm, for the moment, happy to dismiss the issue of conflict of interests --- a topic for another day.

This is surely a Matchroom choice, and suggests that Matchroom thinks that team unity and good "game day management" is all it takes to maximize performance in the Mosconi. This couldn't be further from the truth, and in my opinion, Coach Wilson provided both, though perhaps a bit less effectively than Johann can.

Europe has won seven straight Mosconi events because they are superior to the US in every category but the break:

Europe pockets balls better
Europe plays better patterns
Europe plays better position
Europe plays better safeties
Europe plays kick shots better
Europe employs more two-way shots
Europe is superior in general tactics

What it all adds up to is that out-breaking Europe by a whole lot is the only real path to victory for Team USA these days. While it's certainly possible that it could happen, it is not very likely.

Unless he's moving to the US for much of the year to work with US players, what will Johann do to narrow the gap in skills between Team USA and Team Europe and how will he accomplish it? How will he know which wild cards to pick without seeing American players up close? How will he oversee the development of the players in area of weakness?

Is this move by Matchroom just for show? On the surface, it looks pretty ridiculous, but I'll retract everything I've said if Johann will live in the US for a substantial portion of 2017 and work closely face-to-face with Mosconi hopefuls.
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I agree with all of that but the break. Europe breaks better with the 9 on the spot as well as they are used to it. In my opinion Europe is superior to short race formats. In long races with everything being equal things might change. I doubt the races will change so the players must do the changing.
 
sjm said:
Yes, but every one of those foreign coaches did their work with an American team in America, not from overseas.

Johann's credibility is very high among Americans, his track record impresses every single one of us. But seriously, he's going to train our guys from across the Atlantic? And, seriously, are the guys he's influenced even on a par with those influenced by Mark Wilson, also widely recognized as one of the world's greatest coaches.

Outside of team chemistry and morale building, at which he's quickly been equaled by successor Chamat, what knowledge does Johann possess that will allow him to win with a team that is a big underdog year after year?

The skills gap is wide. How will he bridge it? Why isn't this question considered in this article? I know why not -- because there's no reason to believe that he can bridge it unless he's planning on doing the job in America.

If that were his plan, it would have bee mentioned in the article, which, instead, is filled with nothing but hot air.
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What difference does it really make when team Usa just lost 7 times in a row.
Give that man a shot , if anything , team usa stands to benefit more than it has to lose under a man with a proven track record.
Hope this makes sense :)
 
I just thought of something.
If team usa suddenlytransforms into a winning team under johan, wouldnt that make mark wilson look really bad when a man just took over a entire new team n win as oppose to a man who lost 3 times when he was in charge ?!
 
Cezar Morales said:
I just thought of something.
If team usa suddenlytransforms into a winning team under johan, wouldnt that make mark wilson look really bad when a man just took over a entire new team n win as oppose to a man who lost 3 times when he was in charge ?!
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I prefer Coke over Pepsi, but that doesn't necessarily make Pepsi bad.
 
Is Johann currently at the Derby City Classic at the time of this writing?

Saw this on Darren Appleton's FB page dated January 21, 2017, in Harrison Grange, Indiana.
 

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But seriously, you have a great coach and captain for 2017 now!!

I imagine for it to work he will have to spend a considerable amount of time on your side of the pond.
 
United States of ME

Welcome to the United States of Me Johan. It appears a number of person’s on this forum would rather lose with a poor American coach than win with a foreign born coach. Why might you ask, because he’s not just like ME…..

For Johan this is a job and a challenge, for Matchroom, this is a business decision that affects those that pay their bills, i.e.,Sky Sports and the number of hours they plan for programming, and for the team USA, it’s a last ditch effort to become relevant again in this contest.

As many have found a need to state the obvious, he’s not American. Now that we have that out of the way, what he is, is an excellent coach that has both the resume and proven experience to make a positive impact. What he’s not is some double agent sent to ruin us, nor is he going to turn us all into dare I say Europeans… This is a challenge for him, and based on team Europe having far more available talent than team USA, he has chosen to rise to the occasion. Johan didn’t have to take this position, he did so as a competitor, wishing to push himself.

Their are loads of international coaches plying their trade on foreign soils, some here in the US, some featuring US coaches abroad. To say that a coach can’t perform and maintain their ethics in a foreign land is an insult to that coaches character, and I don’t believe anyone on this forum has the right to imply this with no knowledge of the man. I love this country, but I’m not pig headed enough to say I can’t learn from someone born elsewhere or that that person can’t bring something good to my country.

Go Team USA and welcome Johan, now lets get after returning the Cup to the USA!
 
ChicagoRJ said:
If US wins MC nobody in Europe will be laughing, that I'm sure of. Nobody in Romania was laughing when USA was winning gold after gold.
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Different circumstance and event. If you dont think the commentators for the MC wont basically say "the USA have lost badly for years straight and have finally had to call in a European for help" you have never watched this event. A US win will be a European victory because they could not have done it on their own and needed a European to come in and save the day.
 
sjm said:
If Johann will focus on training American players right here, face to face, in the US to the same extent that a US based coach would have, I'm prepared to retract what I've written. I'm think it highly unlikely and almost inconceivable, but if he's going to embrace the job to the extent that Jay Helfert offered to, he'll meet with nothing but enthusiasm from me and other US fans.
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Your concern of the long distance coach is extremely valid. What needs to be done cannot be achieved through Skype and email.

Maybe the answer will be in how has Johan been training the Russian players?
Has he been living in Russia for extended periods of time to train them?
I do not know the answer, however, I'm sure Johan will either be over here training or getting the players to his school in Europe for periods of time dedicated to his training methods.

Another aspect is the general public learning just what tactics Johan will incorporate (via forums, magazine articles, etc) - This could lead to so much more in-depth discussion on the value of coaching at the professional level that will resonate into the amateur levels, thus advancing the sport here in America for the next generation.

I still believe Jay Helfert would've been effective and I wish Jay had a school of some sort that would've sold the deal. Mark Wilson had the Lindenwood program, Johan has his Netherlands program, and that's what matchroom is apparently interested in when evaluating coaches for team USA.
 
Celtic said:
Different circumstance and event. If you dont think the commentators for the MC wont basically say "the USA have lost badly for years straight and have finally had to call in a European for help" you have never watched this event. A US win will be a European victory because they could not have done it on their own and needed a European to come in and save the day.
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Watch all the MC. Best pool event to watch imho. I love it. Even when they lose I will love the event. Yeah, be nice if they win, but I'll never dawg them for losing, ever.

Sometimes you gotta just take your lumps. I mean the Cubs when 108 years without winning. Right now, Team USA is just in a "cycle" and eventually we will be on the winning side again for multiple occasions, just the way sports goes most of the time.

Nobody, ever said, the US could not win a gold if not for Romanian coaching. I've never even heard someone bring it up in polite conversation because nobody cares where the coach is from.

The bottom line, the coach can't win it anyways, but prepares them. It comes down to execution by the players. If they buy into a "new" way of thinking, maybe they have a shot.

Even Johann admitted when he first started coaching he was doing things wrong and need to learn how better to coach. He was willing to try something different, that went against his current thinking and he learned from it.

Nobody is going to agree on everything, but nobody is going to care where the coach is born. If USA can win GOLD in Hockey next Olympics, I don't care if they use a coach from the Sudan :)
 
Cezar Morales said:
I just thought of something.
If team usa suddenlytransforms into a winning team under johan, wouldnt that make mark wilson look really bad when a man just took over a entire new team n win as oppose to a man who lost 3 times when he was in charge ?!
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And your point is? MW is a nice guy that DID NOT get the job done. Are you related to him or what? Coaching,in ANY sport, is pretty simple: you win you stay, you lose you go. Its that simple.
 
JAM said:
Is Johann currently at the Derby City Classic at the time of this writing ...
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Yes, he was shown on stream at least once. I think he is here supporting his Russian students (and probably scoping out some Americans now).
 
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