John Schmidt vs Niels Feijen - Schmidt conceeded
- Thread starter Roy Steffensen
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JAM said:
I think that says it all. In fact, that is the appropriate response for at least 50% of the thread topics here. As for the incident, if there was a men's tour, he would've been fined just like every other professional player who throws a mid-match tantrum. I'm sure the OB1 guys aren't too happy with it, but as JAM said, "this ain't the PGA, MLB, NBA, or NFL". When you sponsor a pool player, you should set your expectations appropriately.
SoonerFan said:
I'm just saying...that hopefully raking the balls to concede matches will end. Hopefully JS realizes that he shouldn't do things like this, they are wrong, and he should just stop now and not allow himself to be compare to one of the "bad-boys" of pool. Jay had it right. Controlling ones emotions and keeping calm could be half of the game. Especially on that level.
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Well, in that respect, I certainly agree with you. And I am sure the JS does too.
I really think he regrets doing that, and that it certainly was a display of emotion.
I think Jay's intentions were to say that all of us, including Pros, have let our emotions out from time to time. It doesn't mean that we want it that way, just that we are human. And so is John Schmidt.
I really think he regrets doing that, and that it certainly was a display of emotion.
I think Jay's intentions were to say that all of us, including Pros, have let our emotions out from time to time. It doesn't mean that we want it that way, just that we are human. And so is John Schmidt.
cincyman
Banned
Sorry,
everyone is right MY OPINION is wrong!!!! JCIN your right i am a hater because i made a comment to a thread sorry.
No one is understanding what i am saying and thats ok i dont expect you too, i expect reasons for a mans actions of saying to "all the haters drop dead" is a perfect thing to say on a public forum.
I mean Tiger says that on his forum all the time oh wait,,,, the reason its IRONY as one poster said is John himself always cries about thier not being money in pool and " i need a backer" wah And then he says something ridiculous like that,,,,, of course i know how he meant it ( to think i didnt your moronic as well) but does that excuse it, he is a professional and one that everyone here would take a bullet for apparently which is fine.
All i am saying is am i jealous ? LMAO come on Yeah i am jealous of the lavish life style a professional leads lol.
I know no matter what i say the "haters" will turn it around and disect the literal meanings and then everyone will fall in order to what the "leaders" say. Just everyone should take a step back and think of the people WHO REALLY are derogatory are the ones in the spotlight per se and that you all follow.
See ya
everyone is right MY OPINION is wrong!!!! JCIN your right i am a hater because i made a comment to a thread sorry.
No one is understanding what i am saying and thats ok i dont expect you too, i expect reasons for a mans actions of saying to "all the haters drop dead" is a perfect thing to say on a public forum.
I mean Tiger says that on his forum all the time oh wait,,,, the reason its IRONY as one poster said is John himself always cries about thier not being money in pool and " i need a backer" wah And then he says something ridiculous like that,,,,, of course i know how he meant it ( to think i didnt your moronic as well) but does that excuse it, he is a professional and one that everyone here would take a bullet for apparently which is fine.
All i am saying is am i jealous ? LMAO come on Yeah i am jealous of the lavish life style a professional leads lol.
I know no matter what i say the "haters" will turn it around and disect the literal meanings and then everyone will fall in order to what the "leaders" say. Just everyone should take a step back and think of the people WHO REALLY are derogatory are the ones in the spotlight per se and that you all follow.
See ya
Mr. Wilson said:
oh that's precious, lol, a little showboating there partner?
You are a hypocritical piece of work, you couldn't even respond to my questioning of Charlie Williams and his self promoting on this board...
John wants to turn his back on the forum that backed him all the way to the US open, very nice....
I've contributed to this sport in many ways since my teen years, helped out forum members here and received positive rep, I believe that entitles me to an opinion
Mr Wilson, if it pleases you, ban me without the posturing you twit, please!
the thread requires no further comments from you, just do it, thanks!
Walkin' the mile, walkin' the green mile.....smashmouth said:
Banned man walkin', banned man walkin'...............
I'm sure a wasted post but whatever . . .
I don't really care about what JS did to initiate the start this thread, it sure wasn't "professional" but it wasn't a tragedy for all man kind either.
But . . . I am getting tired of people saying how much balls any given Pro has for posting here but then don't expect them to have the balls it takes to answer for thier actions. They are people like we are , I have a job where I'm respected . . . it doesn't make me beyond reproach or clear me of responsibilty for my actions.
They sure come here for the praise , man up and take the critism or I have no problem with them giving up both. It sure takes alot of balls to run away like a little girl.
Let the flames begin.
I don't really care about what JS did to initiate the start this thread, it sure wasn't "professional" but it wasn't a tragedy for all man kind either.
But . . . I am getting tired of people saying how much balls any given Pro has for posting here but then don't expect them to have the balls it takes to answer for thier actions. They are people like we are , I have a job where I'm respected . . . it doesn't make me beyond reproach or clear me of responsibilty for my actions.
They sure come here for the praise , man up and take the critism or I have no problem with them giving up both. It sure takes alot of balls to run away like a little girl.
Let the flames begin.
Mr. Wilson said:
That is a no-brainer.
Smashmouth contributes nothing except mean-spirited comments to professional pool players and any AZBer who respect and like John Schmidt.
John on the other hand, provides his unique perspective to our beloved sport.
Furthermore, Smashmouth hides behind an anonymous screen name.
John's life and identity are an open book and a good read to boot.
I thought the moderators were going to levy a heavy hand toward posters like Smashmouth.
JoeyA
Mr. Wilson said:
I have a question as well for my fellow members:
Would you rather have John Schmidt on this board or Mr. Wilson?
Not exactly a fair question to propose now is it? Nor is it a professional one.
If a pro can't hack it on this board when a few people say negative things about them, while the vast majority of members are very supportive and encouraging, then don't let the door hit you on your way out.
Great analogy.....EXCEPT....how would you like it if some schmuck you didn't work with came to watch you at work, and questioned your every decision you made during the day? How about some guy that just wants to take potshots at you all day decides he's going to blast you for every little thing you did under a microscope that day?RRfireblade said:I'm sure a wasted post but whatever . . .
I don't really care about what JS did to initiate the start this thread, it sure wasn't "professional" but it wasn't a tragedy for all man kind either.
But . . . I am getting tired of people saying how much balls any given Pro has for posting here but then don't expect them to have the balls it takes to answer for thier actions. They are people like we are , I have a job where I'm respected . . . it doesn't make me beyond reproach or clear me of responsibilty for my actions.
They sure come here for the praise , man up and take the critism or I have no problem with them giving up both. It sure takes alot of balls to run away like a little girl.
Let the flames begin.
Welcome to the life of the professional pool player that posts on AZB. There is a reason why a lot of professional athletes do not talk to the press. Tiger Woods does not sign autographs at tour events. John has been an absolute gentleman in the sport. He's done a couple of things that are questionable to some people, and now he's the new Strickland of pool?
Give me a break. I asked JS for an autograph for my pool room - he sent one to me on his dime, and even included a free copy of his newest DVD with it. Talk about a class act! EVERYONE has done something in their pool career they have regretted. NONE of us are beyond doing some things they regret later. To make comments about the man without knowing what's going on in his life is wrong. To make statements about his sponsors is showing disregard for his livelihood.
OB Cues can talk with John if they aren't happy with what he did. He works for them. Any of his other "co-workers" can question his performance. We are merely fans and spectators. We are not owed anything by him - he chooses to perform for us. Don't cast a shadow on him because of one or two incidences. The man is a sum of all his performances. I am still a huge JS fan. He owes me no explanation. If he wants to give me one, that's his business. Otherwise, move on and we'll see John at his next tourney, and hopefully his next post on AZB.
JAM said:
I think if you consider yourself a professional at anything then you should act accordingly. Its not an excuse that pool players dont make tons of money, or have public acclaim and fanfare.
Im pretty sure that Charlie Williams' tournaments forbid any kind of concession, I'm pretty sure the reason for this is Charlie charges admission to watch pool matches, not people quitting before its over.
I personally like John, when I got picked for the ipt and there was a lot of back-handed comments from people I thought were my friends, John was really cool with me and for that I will always respect him.
I hope John reads this and understands that the criticism he has received is mostly from people that wanna see him play his matches out and see him succeed
Mr. Wilson said:
I'm pretty stunned that this would come from a mod. Is that what the AZ boards are really about? If a mod doesn't like someone's opinion, he gathers support to justify removal? Not everyone has the same warm fuzzies about JS, but people shouldn't be banned (or given veiled threats of banning) just because they don't hold JS in the same light that a mod does.
Just my $.02
If someone voices views here, they are damned. This is a public pool forum, right or wrong, the regular posters should be respected a little more. Every poster has a roll, some start good threads, some good post and others fuel to feed the fire etc...
I have seen a few pro's post here. Some add to the forum and ask/answer questions. These are the pro's we need here. Everyone holds JS as a class act and I haven't seen actions to back up the class. Posted to date he hit balls and conceeded match, struck cue from Danny's hands and didn't play a match to go golf (when someone bought him). I guess winning a big event buys a lot of forgiveness. Other than telling people to die, asking for money (it was like spam for a while) and fighting with Danny on here, what has he added? Great shooting doesn't make a great person only great actions on and off the table can.
Ready for the red rep or whatever, but thats just the way it is. I am sure many goig to reply are the ones I like to read and will continue reading. Thats all part of a public forum.
I have seen a few pro's post here. Some add to the forum and ask/answer questions. These are the pro's we need here. Everyone holds JS as a class act and I haven't seen actions to back up the class. Posted to date he hit balls and conceeded match, struck cue from Danny's hands and didn't play a match to go golf (when someone bought him). I guess winning a big event buys a lot of forgiveness. Other than telling people to die, asking for money (it was like spam for a while) and fighting with Danny on here, what has he added? Great shooting doesn't make a great person only great actions on and off the table can.
Ready for the red rep or whatever, but thats just the way it is. I am sure many goig to reply are the ones I like to read and will continue reading. Thats all part of a public forum.