John Schmidt's 626

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
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I think for the pros leaving AZ, a few factors came into play:

1) Many were trying to sell something, and that was all they were doing. No regular chatting with the forum except hit and run sell posts. When they didn't get a favorable response, they left. Others were trying to sell aiming systems. Well I don't need to say any more about that.

2) 15 years ago there were several on here. As FB launched and grew bigger, most moved to that platform. I think it helps build their "pro brand" much better than AZB. That is due to technology reasons in the way the platforms work. So a pro today trying to build the best visibility to increase their brand should go to FB and Youtube, IMO. Also on FB or youtube if things get out of hand, you can just delete the whole post. Here you can't.

3) I do think the pool knowledge on this forum is far and above higher than what is on youtube comments and FB posts. I think the pros want everyone to agree with them. That's what the fans do on FB and youtube, the fans look up to them and build their egos. Here, the pros were treated as one of the regular members, without special egos. And if a pro was ever disagreed with, he ran away. On youtube no one disagrees with them.

This has been my recollection over the past 15 years on here.


I would agree with most of this.

But some guys will alway kvetch about pros being chased off AZ when nothing could be further from the truth.

Lou Figueroa
 

justadub

Rattling corners nightly
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I would agree with most of this.

But some guys will alway kvetch about pros being chased off AZ when nothing could be further from the truth.

Lou Figueroa

To be fair, there are people on this (and most forums) that live to stir the $hit. Trolls. And some pro's tired easily of that foolishness. (Just like many non-pro's) Most people who stay on a forum any amount of time understand that's part of the deal. Many of the pro's had little-to-no computer/internet experience, so dealing with that wasn't anything they signed up for, so's to speak.

Some posted in a way that encouraged it. Fair game, at that point.

In the Facebook environment, they can control the trolling. For better or worse.
 
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Ghosst

Broom Handle Mafia
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All these circus looking animals go perfectly with the circus table Schmidt used to run balls on.

Your attitude is why professional pool will never have any sponsors. You should be embarrassed of yourself.
 

Get_A_Grip

Truth Will Set You Free
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I’ll take that bet. How much you wanna bet? 5k? 10k? 50k?


Let me get this right. You're saying that the table JS used to set the record was a gaff table set up to be super easy, and you also think that the specs are closer to a tough playing Diamond table than the one Mosconi played on? Yeah right. Now you're just outright contradicting yourself.



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haystj

AzB Silver Member
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Let me get this right. You're saying that the table JS used to set the record was a gaff table set up to be super easy, and you also think that the specs are closer to a tough playing Diamond table than the one Mosconi played on? Yeah right. Now you're just outright contradicting yourself.



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I noticed that too.

Outrage can be cause myopia .
 

DynoDan

AzB Silver Member
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Let me get this right. You're saying that the table JS used to set the record was a gaff table set up to be super easy, and you also think that the specs are closer to a tough playing Diamond table than the one Mosconi played on? Yeah right. Now you're just outright contradicting yourself.



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Comparison with how easy the tables played is largely unimportant to me. I just want to see the video showing someone breaking that many racks and still ending up with a makable shot!
I mean, when the CB rolls behind & freezes to a ball near the rail, what the hell CAN you do? If you end up trapped against a cushion and thus can’t even kick at anything near a pocket (unless you are lucky enough that the angle of the ball you are frozen to allows being thrown or banked), you are SCREWED. When you hit the pack hard enough to spread the balls, you really can’t avoid that kind of leave. Absolute control of whitey on the break shot means you are constantly picking off strays and only breaking out a few at a time, which CAN be frustrating. Hit the pack hard finally, and an OB is bound to eventually roll on top of the CB.
J.S. has to be the luckiest man alive.
 

wrldpro

H.RUN 311/Diamond W.R.
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Let me get this right. You're saying that the table JS used to set the record was a gaff table set up to be super easy, and you also think that the specs are closer to a tough playing Diamond table than the one Mosconi played on? Yeah right. Now you're just outright contradicting yourself.



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That’s not what I meant. The table John played on and every table he has ever set out to run high runs on has been far from non standard. Every table has been altered. How about just set up a new factory specs table and a brand new set of balls and start running balls without any changes like shaved slate at the pockets,760 Simonis, heaters under the slate, vacuuming and cleaning the felt constantly after a run has started and polishing the balls once a run has started. The soft pocket facings, short cut cushions to make the pockets bigger are non standard also.
If any of you don’t think the table specs make a difference than why has John been playing on Diamonds for 20+ years and never broke 300 not once. But he has 8 million runs over 300 in circus tables. Also all the 14.1 challenges at Derby City and the SBE many great players struggle to put up large high runs..
Now try to stay on track now with what I wrote hear.
 

justadub

Rattling corners nightly
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That’s not what I meant. The table John played on and every table he has ever set out to run high runs on has been far from non standard. Every table has been altered. How about just set up a new factory specs table and a brand new set of balls and start running balls without any changes like shaved slate at the pockets,760 Simonis, heaters under the slate, vacuuming and cleaning the felt constantly after a run has started and polishing the balls once a run has started. The soft pocket facings, short cut cushions to make the pockets bigger are non standard also.
If any of you don’t think the table specs make a difference than why has John been playing on Diamonds for 20+ years and never broke 300 not once. But he has 8 million runs over 300 in circus tables. Also all the 14.1 challenges at Derby City and the SBE many great players struggle to put up large high runs..
Now try to stay on track now with what I wrote hear.

Since there is a large contingent here who insists on educated pool people to verify that JS actually did this feat, and apparently Bob Jewett isn't considered to be "expert" enough...could we also expect that some equivalent sort of expert testimony be presented verifying these "circus tables"? Beyond your say-so, I mean...
 

haystj

AzB Silver Member
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Since there is a large contingent here who insists on educated pool people to verify that JS actually did this feat, and apparently Bob Jewett isn't considered to be "expert" enough...could we also expect that some equivalent sort of expert testimony be presented verifying these "circus tables"? Beyond your say-so, I mean...

As long as the onion is getting peeled, let's go all the way.

I'd be interested in this information as well.


There is an old Army saying: If the enemy is in range, so are you.
 

xradarx

post quietus
Silver Member
A more tangled web, has never been woven....

Several posters here have been identified along with Mark Griffin, CSI and the 14.1 Hi-Run Challenge at BCAPL - 05-13-2011, 2012 and 2013 as offering $5K-$10K, along with CSI offering $10K for anyone who could equal or exceed the Mosconi hi-run of 526 balls in an exhibition, during their own hi-run contests. Many of them didn't seem to care how, when, nor where it happened, just beat, equal or exceed the 526 number of balls. Some did, however place some restrictions to get the monetary award.

The 526 number wasn't exceeded in the immediately following years, so the offers were eventually withdrawn for lack of opportunity.

Many of them, however closely associated with the eventual player who claims to have bested the 526, still seem to have some skin in the claim.

Therefore, doubters have no faith in them/their supporting the accomplishment.

There can only be one!

The claimant must provide unedited proof of the claim. Everyday just increases the doubts.

There, now, more than the peel will need to be taken off that ONION!
 
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logical

apart of their 'semi public'
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Several posters here have been identified along with Mark Griffin, CSI and the 14.1 BACPL Challenge, 2011, 2012 and 2013 as offering $5K-$10K, along with CSI offering $10K for anyone who could equal or exceed the Mosconi hi-run of 526 balls in an exhibition, during their own hi-run contests. Many of them didn't seem to care how, when, nor where it happened, just beat, equal or exceed the 526 number of balls. Some did, however place some restrictions to get the monetary award.

The 526 number wasn't exceeded in the immediately following years, so the offers were eventually withdrawn for lack of opportunity.

Many of them, however closely associated with the eventual player who claims to have bested the 526, still seem to have some skin in the claim.

Therefore, doubters have no faith in them/their supporting the accomplishment.

There can only be one!

The claimant must provide unedited proof of the claim. Everyday just increases the doubts.

There, now, more than the peel will need to be taken off that ONION!

If suddenly you, your alter ego and Bobby were both/all three convinced via video it happened, it would merely shift your obcession back to pocket size or energy drinks. JS owes you no proof, he isn't claiming to have won the Danny Harriman Invitational, he's claiming a BCA record.

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haystj

AzB Silver Member
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Couple of points, I'll start here:

News flash.....(NOBODYhereGIVESaSHIT!)
AZBILLIARDS.COM:

400+ negative posts about one dude, JS, paints a pretty clear picture who gives a SH!T.

Any guesses on who that is????????

And now:

Several posters here have been identified along with Mark Griffin, CSI and the 14.1 Hi-Run Challenge at BCAPL - 05-13-2011, 2012 and 2013 as offering $5K-$10K, along with CSI offering $10K for anyone who could equal or exceed the Mosconi hi-run of 526 balls in an exhibition, during their own hi-run contests. Many of them didn't seem to care how, when, nor where it happened, just beat, equal or exceed the 526 number of balls. Some did, however place some restrictions to get the monetary award.

The 526 number wasn't exceeded in the immediately following years, so the offers were eventually withdrawn for lack of opportunity.

Many of them, however closely associated with the eventual player who claims to have bested the 526, still seem to have some skin in the claim.

Therefore, doubters have no faith in them/their supporting the accomplishment.

There can only be one!

The claimant must provide unedited proof of the claim. Everyday just increases the doubts.

There, now, more than the peel will need to be taken off that ONION!

I love that my good buddy, xHAIRYx, who masquerades around here as a run of the mill septuagenarian makes references to movies no other seasoned citizen understands......Highlander,,,,,,, hmmmm...how could this be?

There is no Quickening this time Kurgan (xHAIRYx),,, Connor MacLeod (JS) has already run the big number of 626.

I can't wait for your response,,, I just hope I can quote it and reply before you go back and edit it.
 

xradarx

post quietus
Silver Member
If suddenly you, your alter ego and Bobby were both/all three convinced via video it happened, it would merely shift your obcession back to pocket size or energy drinks. JS owes you no proof, he isn't claiming to have won the Danny Harriman Invitational, he's claiming a BCA record.

Sent from my SM-T830 using Tapatalk

Couple of points, I'll start here:



400+ negative posts about one dude, JS, paints a pretty clear picture who gives a SH!T.

Any guesses on who that is????????

And now:



I love that my good buddy, xHAIRYx, who masquerades around here as a run of the mill septuagenarian makes references to movies no other seasoned citizen understands......Highlander,,,,,,, hmmmm...how could this be?

There is no Quickening this time Kurgan (xHAIRYx),,, Connor MacLeod (JS) has already run the big number of 626.

I can't wait for your response,,, I just hope I can quote it and reply before you go back and edit it.

More senile accusations from the js626 drunken crewmembers. Both of you take two hands and reach around your necks and press upwards, with much effort. If successful, maybe you can get your heads out of your arses. quote that, sh*theads.
 

CLAUD

AzB Silver Member
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For what it's worth

I haven't read every post, but have read many. I only played 14:1 continuous a handful of times in the early seventies, but believed then as I do now, that the game is an unrivaled test of skill. IMHO to hold the record at 14:1 is the pinnacle achievement in pocket billiards (snooker not withstanding). My only interest is knowing definitely that the person holding that record earned it legitimately. A well respected person has attested to that.

That being said, I'm curious why so much time has passed without the video being made available. Is there something wrong with the video? Is it being withheld out of disappointment because it appears it will not produce a huge payday? Why did he not "strike while the iron is hot?"

It has been said that John Schmidt owes us nothing. I respectfully disagree. To hold yourself out to have achieved such an astounding feat and feel no obligation to share that with the pool community you have been a part of for so many years seems quite selfish. Not saying he should not be paid, but the market will determine the video's financial worth. Decide what path will yield the most and get on with it.
 

haystj

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
More senile accusations from the js626 drunken crewmembers. Both of you take two hands and reach around your necks and press upwards, with much effort. If successful, maybe you can get your heads out of your arses. quote that, sh*theads.



Hey quick question xHAIRYx,,,,,, if my head is in my arse, and I have my hands around my neck and press upward,,, wouldn't that just put my head farther up my arse?

I can tell you truly are a really good pool player.

I'll still buy you those suds and play you cheap so we can laugh about all this, unless the butt hurt is too painful.
 
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xradarx

post quietus
Silver Member
Still playing Doctor

Hey quick question xHAIRYx,,,,,, if my head is in my arse, and I have my hands around my neck and press upward,,, wouldn't that just put my head farther up my arse? Nope, yours went in from the top
I can tell you truly are a really good pool player. I'm not the best I've ever seen, but I'll do until he gets here!

I'll still buy you those suds and play you cheap so we can laugh about all this, unless the butt hurt is too painful.
No purchase necessary. I require no brews to play billiards at any price. Talk is cheap, same as laughs. He who laughs last, lasts loudest! I require no medications, not even prep-H. I'm sure you know what that is used for. Piece on you. Later..... uno
 

ChrisinNC

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Comparison with how easy the tables played is largely unimportant to me. I just want to see the video showing someone breaking that many racks and still ending up with a makable shot!
I mean, when the CB rolls behind & freezes to a ball near the rail, what the hell CAN you do? If you end up trapped against a cushion and thus can’t even kick at anything near a pocket (unless you are lucky enough that the angle of the ball you are frozen to allows being thrown or banked), you are SCREWED. When you hit the pack hard enough to spread the balls, you really can’t avoid that kind of leave. Absolute control of whitey on the break shot means you are constantly picking off strays and only breaking out a few at a time, which CAN be frustrating. Hit the pack hard finally, and an OB is bound to eventually roll on top of the CB.
J.S. has to be the luckiest man alive.
I made this exact point on a related thread shortly after the 626 run was reported. To me, successfully executing 45 consecutive beginning of rack break shots in a row - making the ball, not scratching and always leaving yourself with a makeable shot following the break, was the most impressive and statistically unlikely feat of this run of 626.
 

haystj

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
No purchase necessary. I require no brews to play billiards at any price. Talk is cheap, same as laughs. He who laughs last, lasts loudest! I require no medications, not even prep-H. I'm sure you know what that is used for. Piece on you. Later..... uno

Thanks.

Piece on you too??? :confused::confused:
 
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