John Schmidt's 626

Bob Jewett

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I wouldn't doubt what he thinks he saw his integrity isn't in question however that still doesn't mean it's still not in question digital video editing is so good in the hands of a professional the average person simply is incapable of picking it up , not saying it was just saying it's possible because it is

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I'm pretty sure I know where the video was between the event and when I saw it. I'm satisfied that what I saw was what happened. And as I mentioned before, I already saw two 400+ runs by John in person, so I know he was capable of 527+ given enough time.

In any case, the record has been recognized by the applicable record recognizing organization. Did you know that it was rumored that twice during Mosconi's 526 the OB jumped out of the pocket and wasn't really pocketed? See how those random unsubstantiated rumors work, "one stroke"?
 

lfigueroa

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I'm pretty sure I know where the video was between the event and when I saw it. I'm satisfied that what I saw was what happened. And as I mentioned before, I already saw two 400+ runs by John in person, so I know he was capable of 527+ given enough time.

In any case, the record has been recognized by the applicable record recognizing organization. Did you know that it was rumored that twice during Mosconi's 526 the OB jumped out of the pocket and wasn't really pocketed? See how those random unsubstantiated rumors work, "one stroke"?


I believe it has been shown in discussions here that in the case of the "applicable record recognizing organization," it turned out to be two guys at the BCA with questionable 14.1 bona fides -- so their recognition comes with the distinct flavor of a "certificate of authenticity" you might get along with a painting bought during a cruise ship auction.

I'd also like to point out that you were the monger who spread the unattributed rumor here about Mosconi's run.

Lou Figueroa
 

The_JV

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Whew... 726 and done. Video up coming once I figure out this damn Blender.

I can't get passed this damn donut tutorial...lol
 

wrldpro

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Now being someone who plays 14.1 and keeps up with the History and follows the rules that respect the game here are a few things that stand out.
why wouldnt Cranfields multiple runs over 700 on a 9ft. table be the all time record. They didnt use video back then and from everybody i talked to that knew Cranfield said he was the most honest person they ever knew and even had the nickname honest Babe to some.
The BCA guys who decided to call it a record were new and it was just a who knows who at that point and they dont even know how to platu pool. It should have been done differently.
There are to many things that was happening to be questioned.
760 Simonis? who uses this felt. It is faster and slicker and makes for the pockets be at least 10 % easier when hitting balls down a rail to go in.
Heaters under the table to heat the slate to make the table play faster? who does this except for 3 cushion Billiard tables.
No one inspected the table or was allowed to inspect it. Why not allow this and for breaking such a record the BCA guys and actually John should have had multiple experts fly in to do so I know i would have and now since the table has been recovered the extra things to make the table easier are no longer available to inspect.
No original video ever released to the public and never available to any experts to make sure of any alterations.
Removal of the balls to run through a ball polisher many times after a run has started.
Cleaning and vacuuming of the felt many times after a run has started.
a special rack that racks the balls exactly the same way everytime which helps spred the balls more open after the break shots.
Starting a run several hours before the poolroom even opened in which the people who signed off on the run did not see it completely and count the racks completed and the other people who signed off are partial.
Exactly 100 balls over Mosconis run for a number to pick to make it sound more amazing to stand out
the date was on 5-26 another set of wierd numbers
Many more things that can be added to this false claim its all fake news.
 
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Black-Balled

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Those are all valid points and it would be nice to do apples to apples comparisons, but without standards, who is to say what conditions are required?

You've been around pool long enough to know it doesn't plan for or even think about tomorrow.


Now being someone who plays 14.1 and keeps up with the History and follows the rules that respect the game here are a few things that stand out.
why wouldnt Cranfields multiple runs over 700 on a 9ft. table be the all time record. They didnt use video back then and from everybody i talked to that knew Cranfield said he was the most honest person they ever knew and even had the nickname honest Babe to some.
The BCA guys who decided to call it a record were new and it was just a who knows who at that point and they dont even know how to platu pool. It should have been done differently.
There are to many things that was happening to be questioned.
760 Simonis? who uses this felt. It is faster and slicker and makes for the pockets be at least 10 easier when hitting balls down a rail to go in.
Heaters under the table to heat the slate to make the table play faster? who does this except for 3 cushion Billiard tables.
No one inspected the table or was allowed to inspect it. Why not allow this and for breaking such a record the BCA guys and actually John should have had multiple experts fly in to do so I know i would have and now since the table has been recovered the extra things to make the table easier are no longer available to inspect.
No original video ever released to the public and never available to any experts to make sure of any alterations.
Removal of the balls to run through a ball polisher many times after a run has started.
Cleaning and vacuuming of the felt many times after a run has started.
a special rack that racks the balls exactly the same way everytime which helps spred the balls more open after the break shots.
Starting a run several hours before the poolroom even opened in which the people who signed off on the run did not see it completely and count the racks completed and the other people who signed off are partial.
Exactly 100 balls over Mosconis run for a number to pick to make it sound more amazing to stand out
the date was on 5-26 another set of wierd numbers
Many more things that can be added to this false claim its all fake news.
 

DTL

SP 219
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Guinness Book of World Records in yr 2050......Billiards Category - High Run Straight Pool: John Schmidt 626 (*).

* Wasn't approved by Lou Figueroa and Danny Harriman.

lol....NOT
 

iusedtoberich

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...snip...
760 Simonis? who uses this felt. It is faster and slicker and makes for the pockets be at least 10 easier when hitting balls down a rail to go in.
...snip...

For this single point: Drexeline Billiards in PA, owned by pro player Bob Maidoff with a high run in the 300's, the whole room prefers 760, and its had it for over 25 years. The room tried 860 a couple times, and all the players hated it. The main games in the room are one hole, straight pool, and 9 ball. Its a player's room for sure.

<=== Spent all my late teens and all 20's in this room.
 

lfigueroa

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Guinness Book of World Records in yr 2050......Billiards Category - High Run Straight Pool: John Schmidt 626 (*).

* Wasn't approved by Lou Figueroa and Danny Harriman.

lol....NOT


Pretty silly, because it has nothing to do with me -- JS's run did not meet the criteria set by Guinness for a world record.

They are very specific about what you have to do for a record to count. So his "record" ain't gonna be in the Guinness book today nor 30 years from now or *ever.*

Lou Figueroa
 
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Bob Jewett

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... set by Guinness for a world record. ...
Geeze, Lou. Guinness sets up fake records to amuse drunks. Seems like a pretty low standard to go by. All I have to do is learn to balance a cue on my nose for a 100-meter dash and I can get into the fine "Record Book" as well.
 

lfigueroa

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Geeze, Lou. Guinness sets up fake records to amuse drunks. Seems like a pretty low standard to go by. All I have to do is learn to balance a cue on my nose for a 100-meter dash and I can get into the fine "Record Book" as well.


Geez, Bob, talk to DTL who was the guy who brought Guinness up in the first place.

But I'll tell you what: that run would be far more credible if it was certified by Guinness instead of the BCA.

Lou Figueroa
just sayin'
 

bb9ball

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wrldpro;6764221 ... John should have had multiple experts fly in to do so I know i would have ...[/QUOTE said:
Did you pay for experts to fly in to inspect the table for the world record you claim in your profile?
 

DTL

SP 219
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Pretty silly, because it has nothing to do with me -- JS's run did not meet the criteria set by Guinness for a world record.

They are very specific about what you have to do for a record to count. So his "record" ain't gonna be in the Guinness book today nor 30 years from now or *ever.*

Lou Figueroa

I think you missed my point.
 

xXGEARXx

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760 Simonis? who uses this felt. It is faster and slicker and makes for the pockets be at least 10 easier when hitting balls down a rail to go in.
Well, dang it! I'm heading downstairs right now to rip off that easy, ball-making cloth. SON-OF-A.....
 

xradarx

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Time Wasted, go play 14.1 no discussion necessary

"Honestly, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with the video," Schmidt confessed. "I've got to mo"netize this to a degree. I don't really make money in pool. It is an opportunity for me and I can't let that pass by. I'm not going to simply release this video for free and end up dying broke behind a Walgreens. If the world won't allow me to get something from this video, then I guess the world will never see it."

Sorry, JS knew it then, as well as now. No further explanation required. See Ya.

Welcome to Pool World reality JS. The Pool World didn't believe it when it was said that it happened. The Pool World doesn't believe it happened a year and a half ago. The Pool World, especially, doesn't care to view an edited for time video, substituted for the REAL UNEDITED VIDEO.
 
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