I am still making myself familiar with the rules of 8 ball, but was under the impression that if you made the 8 on break, you lost because you still didnt legally pocket all your object balls prior to it sinking. So this past friday at a little tournament(28 people). I drew a fairly good player that I seem to drawfirst round of every tournament we play together. Well, because of the turnout and the shortage of tables, its a race to 1, double elimination. Anyways, We drew each other, I win coin toss to break(10 min after I was talking about replacing the tip on my break cue). He racks, I break, sunk 2 solids, 2 stripes, and the 8 ball. I was dissapointed. He shook my hand and said,"well thats something you just cant control". I thought no big deal, went and put my cue up, and the general consensus was that I shouldnt replace my tip with breaks like that. I was like yeah, but if I could just win. Then i was informed that sinking an 8 ball on break is a victory. Kinda felt dumb because everyone was congratulating me on my break and I thought it was because the way the balls moved. I've only been playing seriously for almost a month now. I ended up finishing 5/6th out of the 28 entries. My main focus is 9 ball, but the local 8 ball tournament is fairly fun and great practice.