SLO pros playing 1 Hole 10 ahead.
Tied at 8 -8 after 9 Hours of play
This could go on for a week
Tied at 8 -8 after 9 Hours of play
This could go on for a week
Justin "The Putz" Bergman
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True. In fact, it could never end.
Could end up pro rating the match
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Not sure what you are looking for but if you have ever watched golf and watch some of the great pro's walk around the hole 4 or 5 times taking 30 to 45 seconds at each stop before they shoot. Golf has millions of spectators and no problems about the slowness.
Each player has a different style to achieve his or her point, Its the ones that can execute to almost perfection is the difference of playing slow or playing to win. I don't think Justin is in the top 3 in the US because he is slow, I think he in the top 3 because he executes what he see's to almost pure perfection.
Pay attention to some of the other pro's they are doing just what Justin is doing. Each time I watch I learn something that helps me improve my game.
One more thing, if you want to watch some slow playing...watch John Mora. I might add you will also see some of the best patterns played, shot making and unbelievable runout's. Or come to Peoria IL and watch Bobby McGrath (no slouch either) one of the fastest players in the world...and has a tad bit of accuracy too.
Speaking of Cliff PT, had you ever met Duffey Obrecht in your travels?
I grew up playing with Duff, he was Cliffs instructor at one point while playing worlds
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In golf they are playing different courses all of which are 100% unique and they are " shooting " off of the ground lol - not off of a precision machined piece of slate which are all basically identical.
Each player has their own preferred pace of play, and while some players no doubt play more slowly than they need to, not every player who plays too slowly for some fan's liking does so unnecessarily.
If you sped up the pace of play of some players there's no doubt that they would play worse.
Not to single you out...
But who are we to decide what is right for another? What if you were told your timing needed to be 1/5 less or 5x longer than you are comfortable with?
He isn't in violation of any rules and until he is, there is no reason to think we can justify commanding him to change.
True, but how do you like to PLAY a slow player lol?
Hmmph, did he forget his password?
You can single me out. I'm a big boy. After all I am singling out all of the dreadfully slow players out there. Not only Justin, who by the way, is an amazing player. I'm not taking that away from him.
Do some research on the subject, and you'll find there are various reasons that a player might play slow. Not limited too
1. New to the game/Uncertain about the shot
2. Lack of confidence
3. Sharking tactic
Do any of those sound like Bergman to you?
Oh, and I think you can totally justify asking a player to speed up in certain situations.
If these guys were gambling in a back room with no cameras, then they can take 30 minutes to shoot a shot for all I care. But when the cameras are rolling and people are paying to watch and hopefully be entertained, well then I think you have to say something. In my opinion , there are only two types of spectators when it comes to slow players
1. Those who can't stand them. (me)
2. Those who can tolerate them.
But I don't think anyone purposefully purchases a stream like this in the hopes one or both players takes 2 minutes on every shot.
If these guys were gambling in a back room with no cameras, then they can take 30 minutes to shoot a shot for all I care. But when the cameras are rolling and people are paying to watch and hopefully be entertained, well then I think you have to say something. In my opinion , there are only two types of spectators when it comes to slow players
1. Those who can't stand them. (me)
2. Those who can tolerate them.
But I don't think anyone purposefully purchases a stream like this in the hopes one or both players takes 2 minutes on every shot.
Agreed. The slow player gamblers rarely get played, UNLESS they are known to be a good score A ND u can stomach it.
Exact type of posts the Pro's love to hear about, and then avoid AZB at all costs. So, you don't like his play, so the fug what? IF I could play as well as him, I'd play even slow while wear a thong
To be fair, not many people look good in a thong.
Justin
Bergman is one of my favorite all time players... One of the best strokes in pool - and he is a grinder. Plus, I like winners.
Bergman is one of my favorite all time players... One of the best strokes in pool - and he is a grinder. Plus, I like winners.
FLlCK NO!!!!!
#2 has the greates concentration of Bergman.
A level exceeded by his concern of the trophy and the fact that he has no plan to clock in tomorrow...or the next day, or....