Since there is an official, at the table, did Ralf have any options?
Karl Boyes should he have been called for a foul!
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A player can remind the ref when he misses a foul or a warning, but there was no foul.
I realize the consensus here is no foul occurred. We all watched it in slow motion video. The ref was in good position, and chose not to call a foul. It would be better for all concerned if it was a foul. No one should be allowed to slam the table with balls in motion.
This is my view as well, it just seems like common sense. You shouldn't be able to do something to the bed of the table while the balls are in motion.
You're just mad that Alex didn't win.
I admit it...I’m a bit biased for Alex.
But I’m not nearly as biased as a bunch of AZers are against Boyes.
The way youse guys talk, if all of organized sports were looked at the same way...
...there’d be about 14 pros eligible to compete at anything in the whole world.
Well said!
There are a lot of Karl Boyes haters on here.
Its a perfectly valid argument to say the rules should consider that a foul.
Its not valid to say it was a foul.
Nothing more to it.
Thank you. That's exactly what I've been saying.
That's not what I said. His cue tip jammed into the slate and the inside edge of the rail at the pocket. You can freeze the frame on the slow motion replay and see the cue tip on the overhead view while the cue ball is still frozen to the rail.
Pausing the video just before and after the weird ball roll reveals something from the tip slam interfered with the ball. It's just too big of a coincidence. The ball is hugging the rail, he slams his tip and a fraction of a second later the ball oddly darts away from the rail. I thought for sure the video would show the ball moving away from the rail before the stick hits the table, but it doesn't. It rolls out immediate following the stick slam. I believe I would have asked for a ref to look for some projectile like a piece of tip or chalk or something.
Here are screenshots.....1st is immediately after the click sound of the stick hitting the table. 2nd is immediately after the stick bounces up from the table. CB is hugging the rail and then mysteriously moves away from it during this exact time frame.
Here are screenshots.....1st is immediately after the click sound of the stick hitting the table. 2nd is immediately after the stick bounces up from the table. CB is hugging the rail and then mysteriously moves away from it during this exact time frame.
It looks to me like the cue ball has left the side cushion before it passes the headstring, and that the stick does not hit the table until after that. The cue ball definitely did some funny things on that shot.
To me, watching from the original shot from the end of the table, it looks like the cue ball leaves the cushion before that.
And you could be right. I watched it in slow motion and the ball begins to drift away from the rail right after it enters the kitchen, at about the same time the tip of the stick hits the table. Seems like flaw in the table at that spot would've come into play sometime during the match prior to this shot.
I agree with the match being a thriller. Winner breaks - I'm not sure my thought on that. My only problem with it is that it may not give a good player a chance to show his skills or have a chance to get into the game.
Here are screenshots.....1st is immediately after the click sound of the stick hitting the table. 2nd is immediately after the stick bounces up from the table. CB is hugging the rail and then mysteriously moves away from it during this exact time frame.
It may just be a coincidence. But it sure is a weird coincidence.
That would be a crappy arse table if that mini tantrum had anything to do with the roll off. Ball spin or debris, maybe both. No foul. But a sportsmanship warning would be warranted.
I will always like winner breaks....the Daz-Earl was exciting...Daz came with some racks
at the right time....couldn’t happen with alternate breaks.
When you get a hill-hill match with alternate breaks, it’s too manufactured.....
...like eating food that’s been articially flavored.
As always "Bald Jesus" is correct. No foul.