landon shuffett vs earl strickland match
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9BallPaul
Banned
The Young Landon
Remember well walking into the old Louisville hotel for the DCC many years ago. Just ahead of me was a young kid with his dad, both carrying cues. I remember thinking well, at least there's somebody here I can beat.
That afternoon, I saw Landon playing 9-ball, running tables as though he were Efren. The kid was about 13 years old at the time, but it made a huge impression.
I've been following Landon ever since. He and his dad share a website:
http://justcueit.com/
Remember well walking into the old Louisville hotel for the DCC many years ago. Just ahead of me was a young kid with his dad, both carrying cues. I remember thinking well, at least there's somebody here I can beat.
That afternoon, I saw Landon playing 9-ball, running tables as though he were Efren. The kid was about 13 years old at the time, but it made a huge impression.
I've been following Landon ever since. He and his dad share a website:
http://justcueit.com/
Hey Jay, was that you who went over and hung around in Landon's area after the match? I assume you did that to shield Landon from Strickland's BS. If that's the case, then kudos to you.
Hey guys here's a riddle for you; What stinks and rhymes with BS?.........
answer........ ES
Yes, it was beginning to get a little heated with Earl the aggressor. Among other things he is a sore loser as well. I didn't want Landon being verbally attacked (which was beginning to happen) so I got between them, keeping my back to Earl. He must have got the message because he shut up pretty quickly.
That is the kind of thing i can really respect, Jay!!!!
Pangit
Banned
So why do so many people worship Earl? He's no poster child for Sportsmanship.
I'm sure the sponsorship's will be rolling in for Landon in the next few years.
He conducted himself as a perfect gentleman.
Earl is good enough...he doesn't need to resort to "Earl" behavior?
Maybe, he believes people expect him to put on a show, that's why people like him?
People have been saying ES acts like this because it's expected of him now. But then where did it come from in the first place? I don't buy it. He has always acted like this. Simply put he is a world class jackass. You can't take away from him that he is so very talented at pool, arguably one of the top five - maybe even top two players - ever. But he got kicked off the Mosconi cup for behavior like this. As good as he is at pool, he is equally bad at being a human being, and that comes first.
ES has been acting up like this at tournaments for years, and we all have come to realize that it's normal for him. But it goes beyond this type of stuff. There is a you tube video where ES is actually bragging about the fact that he made a grown man cry. What kind of person takes pride in THAT? And it was not just some random guy ES was talking about, it was Luther Lassiter for Christ sake. Lassiter is one of the icons of the sport that has done so much for ES. But his notoriety has also made ES so arrogant, that he thinks it's OK to tear an icon down. What he was saying would make me sick to my stomach no matter who he was talking about, but so much the worse that it was Lassiter. And if ES invented the story, or misinterpreted Lassiter's reaction, doesn't matter. The point is ES was bragging about something that is in actuality disgraceful.
People say ES acts the way he does at tournaments to shark people. But I don't think so. His behavior is very disrupting and distracting, so it results in the sharking of people. But the underlying cause of his behavior simply comes from the fact that he's just an A-1, world class douche bag, period.
Here's the link to the you tube video I was referring to...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQAVxK6TttA
Fatz
Earl talks about inventing the jump shot in that vid. I've heard him make that claim before.
Looks like Greenleaf was shooting jump shots at least half a century before Earl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqMUqyH1gY4&feature=player_detailpage#t=74s
Strange how two people can look at the same thing and see two different
things.
I thought it was a good story..and not disrespectful.
Earl was the next generation...and things DO move on.
I tend to stick up for Earl...but we all know that can be embarrassing at
times...but here's one of the times he'd be a good guy to have around
your room.
https://www.google.ca/url?url=http:...l+2010&usg=AFQjCNHLbEaHL5PajbFSkTvQEOSw3uDpMw
i agree with you and i did not find earl story disrespectful other than he should have left the tears part out of it. I personally am always amazed at how a lot of members on here see things totally different from myself and how serious some guys get from meaningless stuff
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I don't disagree with that. But I really don't think ES's point was that "things move on". I think he was just building himself up at the expense of someone else and the background context happened to be "things move on".
Either way, if it was me, I would be embarrassed to tell the story itself. I wouldn't want anyone to hear the words "this man cried because of me". It seems on the surface that it's some kind of really insightful story that tells a point about the pool world. But some things are more important than other things and if it were me, I wouldn't tell the story at all. If I were the only one who knew that Lassiter cried that day, then I would remain the only one who knew Lassiter cried that day. There's no real payoff in telling that story. In ES's mind there is a payoff, and that's what's wrong with him.
Not every story has to be told, not every thought has to be expressed. Some people go out of their way to help someone and they don't ask credit for it and never receive credit for it, and they are just OK with that. Other people would advertise it so that everyone would know what a "great" person they "are". Some people see someone do one thing that is really awful, and may speak to that person to point out the error of their ways and never mention it to anyone else - everyone makes a mistake here and there. Another person might just tell the whole world about this person's mistake just to gain "instant credibility". Some people do something negative and want a reward for it. "Look at me, look what I can do. Never mind that it's actually a bad thing."
It's kind of a society thing. So many people don't see what's wrong with this that it just seems OK now - not to everybody, but to way too many people. The standards in the society have declined. So in that framework, it's not entirely ES's fault. He has gotten way too much "encouragement" to behave this way. And now he is in a hole he will never get out of - that is, in my opinion, and in my way of looking at things.
As for the video you linked to, I can't hear most of what's going on, so I don't know how to respond. If your point is, "Here look, here's Earl having a normal moment," I'm like "so what?" I'm sure he has normal moments from time to time.
OK, that's enough of that soap box. I made my point, kind of getting tired of hearing myself, and probably won't post about this any more.
Fatz
Efren has come as close as anyone to totally dominating pool in the manner of Willie Mosconi.
After watching this match, I totally believe that Landon Shuffet has the potential to dominate like Mosconi did.
As far as the nick goes? I liked one said by one of the announcers;
Lando the Commando...
After watching this match, I totally believe that Landon Shuffet has the potential to dominate like Mosconi did.
As far as the nick goes? I liked one said by one of the announcers;
Lando the Commando...
9BallPaul
Banned
One other thing
Not to turn attention away from Earl, but is Landon really interested in pursuing pool as a career? From the little I know about him, he's an excellent student and active in other endeavors.
And a glimpse of Earl might be what he needs to study biology, or whatever.
Not to turn attention away from Earl, but is Landon really interested in pursuing pool as a career? From the little I know about him, he's an excellent student and active in other endeavors.
And a glimpse of Earl might be what he needs to study biology, or whatever.
Wow, interesting point. I hope he chooses to pursue pool. What a player and seems like he would be a class act, and hence a good American representative for the sport.
Since Strickland is 51, hopefully Landon has considered that he wouldn't have to put up with him much longer.
Fatz
Actually I think Lando (I so badly want to call him Lando from now on) is one of the few who really DO have an incentive. He's like the next SVB. He will make a lot of money in tournaments and make good coin from sponsorships.
In fact I sense a long time SVB-Lando rivalry coming on. I don't mean rivalry in a bad way - just that we have two really, really good American players here, not too far apart in age, who's paths will cross many times (if Lando does take up pool full time).
And since they are both class acts it would be just a really "right" kind of rivalry. Could only be good for pool.
Fatz
Agreed, I wonder if ES took this one for granted, then too late, realized the error of his thinking.
And at 18 he can only get better !?!?! Mind boggling.
Fatz
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