Last Pocket 8 Ball rules and moves?

Eric.

Eric.

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Anyone familiar with LP8ball?

I was hoping to start a thread about the rules and strategies. The obvious one is that you have to shoot the 8 ball in the same pocket as your last pocketed ball. Fouls and BIH is usually behind the line. I know some play where you can just roll behind a ball, without touching a rail, to play a "safe".

Anyone wanna chime in?


Eric
 
The way it's played around here is with regular (BCA) rules and the only difference is playing the 8 ball in the pocket the last numbered ball was sunk.

In other words - Ball in hand off scratches and fouls.
 
Supergreenman's got it correct. Another rule is that both players cannot have the same last pocket. As far as strategy goes, a good last pocket 8-ball player will rarely take a side pocket for their last hole. It's too easy to leave someone bad, on a side pocket...so you really only get one chance to win.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
The only "move" I can recommend is to freaking run ALL the WAY out when you attempt a run out.

Failed runouts in last pocket 8 ball are punished much more so than in regular 8 ball.

It is MUCH more important to play your final 3 ball sequence properly in this game.

Just as important, you MUST identify your key ball before you take your first shot. If you get out of position and end up having to shoot the wrong ball, you may have to shoot 3 tough shot sin a row to even have a CHANCE at winning.

Last pocket 8 ball on a Diamond barbox is a brutal game. :D

Russ

(Has gambled up to $60 a game at LP 8 ball.. And pretty much chalked up any failed runout as a loss.)
 
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I love last pocket 8 ball or bank the 8. For the most part, it always equals free money or drinks at a bar.

One of my favorite things to do (or attempt), is to walk in a bar with $1 and walk out drunk. When I lived in Ohio and just started playing, I could do this nearly every night thanks to last pocket 8 ball or bank the 8.

As far as moves, It should be clear what pocket you want to put the 8 ball in after the break. Or at least have a good idea between a pocket and backup plan pocket. Then what ball on the table lets you get natural shape on the 8 ball? Working backwards helps.
 
cleary said:
I love last pocket 8 ball or bank the 8. For the most part, it always equals free money or drinks at a bar.

One of my favorite things to do (or attempt), is to walk in a bar with $1 and walk out drunk. When I lived in Ohio and just started playing, I could do this nearly every night thanks to last pocket 8 ball or bank the 8.

As far as moves, It should be clear what pocket you want to put the 8 ball in after the break. Or at least have a good idea between a pocket and backup plan pocket. Then what ball on the table lets you get natural shape on the 8 ball? Working backwards helps.
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Was jus thinkin....might be nice to be a railbird all night.....and when the bottle started playin, and the ego started talkin......might have made for an interesting evening......hmmmmmm
 
Good last pocket match in Utah....

Tommy Baker and Rod Curry played last week, a couple of well schooled players. Big cueball when you play Surfer Rod. High $ match. Tommy won but Rod still has some great moves. Tommy was giving up the breaks and one ball and had to play with the big ball but he out ran the nuts. Big spot - maybe too big normally.
 
danquixote said:
Was jus thinkin....might be nice to be a railbird all night.....and when the bottle started playin, and the ego started talkin......might have made for an interesting evening......hmmmmmm
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Can't get to interesting. I only showed up with $1 and spent that on the first game. If Iost, I would always have a credit card back up. I didn't and still won't gamble for much when drinking. A good lesson I leaned from others and thankfully not on my own.
 
With Last Pocket

randyg said:
1-15 in the side pockets.....SPF=randyg
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We used to play 1 and 15 side pocket and 8 ball last pocket. Keep in mind that wichever side the 1 goes in cannot be the same side pocket as the 15. Most often you do not want a side pocket as your last pocket so getting the 1 or 15 off the table quickly is a great advantage here.
Dan
 
Russ Chewning said:
Failed runouts in last pocket 8 ball are punished much more so than in regular 8 ball.


(Has gambled up to $60 a game at LP 8 ball.. And pretty much chalked up any failed runout as a loss.)
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I guess I dont' follow your logic, Russ (who does???). Last Pocket 8-ball was clearly invented to add more of a movers end game and to give less skilled players more chances at the table. Regular 8-ball today against good player is "If you don't get out, you lose." Isn't that the caliber of player you play regular 8-ball? How much more punished could you be than that?

In last pocket 8-ball, if you don't get out, you still have a better chance of getting back to the table vs regular 8-ball (if you don't get out). Does anyone other than Russ disagree with this?

Yes, LP 8-ball is a brutal game against good players, period. Just like any special game, if you're good and experienced at it, you're going to be a leg up on a good player that isn't experienced at it. But, I think that it's not correct to say "Failed runouts in last pocket 8 ball are punished much more so than in regular 8 ball." Do you mean instead that it's more frustrating because you'll never see your pocket?

Fred
 
Scott Lee said:
Another rule is that both players cannot have the same last pocket. www.poolknowledge.com
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Let's follow up on this rule, since Eric is asking about rules. If a person accidentally or on purpose pockets his last ball in the opponent's pocket, I've played that the opponent can nominate your pocket, but it can't be a side pocket. Is that how other's play it?

If you pocket your last two balls at the same time in different pockets, is your last pocket the one you called on your last shot, or the one that the last ball dropped?

Fred
 
ginsu said:
Tommy Baker and Rod Curry played last week, a couple of well schooled players. Big cueball when you play Surfer Rod. High $ match. Tommy won but Rod still has some great moves. Tommy was giving up the breaks and one ball and had to play with the big ball but he out ran the nuts. Big spot - maybe too big normally.
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Tommy gave up the break and one ball to Rod playing last pocket? Which ball did he give up? One before the eight? Choice after break? Which ball?
 
dabarbr said:
Tommy gave up the break and one ball to Rod playing last pocket? Which ball did he give up? One before the eight? Choice after break? Which ball?
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Rod had the choice to shoot the ball before the 8 or take it off and use the previous balls' pocket as his last pocket. Pretty big spot with the breaks and Rod's big cue ball.
 
LP8-Ball is a great game. You can add Randy's suggestion about the 1 & 15 Balls in cross Side Pockets, to add to the difficulty.

Wanna make it even harder? Alter the rules by playing Outside-In or Inside Out, meaning the object balls must pocketed in numerical order, 15>9 & 1>7 for Outside-In or 7>1 & 9>15 for Inside-Out.

Now you have 8-Ball, Rotation & One-Pocket, rolled into one game.

For a super quick game, that favors the player with a good Break Shot, play Short Rack 8-Ball (4 stripes, 4 solids & the 8-Ball, racked like 9 ball)

Good Luck...
 
Cornerman said:
Let's follow up on this rule, since Eric is asking about rules. If a person accidentally or on purpose pockets his last ball in the opponent's pocket, I've played that the opponent can nominate your pocket, but it can't be a side pocket. Is that how other's play it?

Fred
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In Puerto Rico, if you pocket the last ball in your opponent's pocket, your opponent can nominate your pocket, including side pockets.

Cornerman said:
If you pocket your last two balls at the same time in different pockets, is your last pocket the one you called on your last shot, or the one that the last ball dropped?

Fred
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In Puerto Rico, since you do not call your pockets, you will have the pocket that the last ball dropped in (even if it is the side pockets).

NOTE: Good bankers wouldn't have a problem with having the side pocket called on them..
 
Good stuff, so far.

I was hoping that ppl would come in with more moves. Here's one:

If you have the 8 with a diamond of a corner pocket, try to our on of your balls so that it blocks the 8, but your ball is still makeable. This makes your opponent have to move the 8 or ban k it, but if you leave room for youjr ball, you can easily play the 8 ther as well.


Eric
 
In last pocket 8-ball, if you don't get out, you still have a better chance of getting back to the table vs regular 8-ball (if you don't get out). Does anyone other than Russ disagree with this?

Yes, LP 8-ball is a brutal game against good players, period. Just like any special game, if you're good and experienced at it, you're going to be a leg up on a good player that isn't experienced at it. But, I think that it's not correct to say "Failed runouts in last pocket 8 ball are punished much more so than in regular 8 ball." Do you mean instead that it's more frustrating because you'll never see your pocket?

Fred[/QUOTE]

The addition of the 1 ball and the 15 ball in opposing side pockets would certainly add a bit to the difficulty curve.....but simply playing the eight in the same pocket as your last ball seems as simple as picking a new key ball. Yes this would also limit options.....but the additional difficulty would seem negligible for an advanced player.

Let me add this disclaimer.....it has been a long time since I played this game.....so my observations are based on perception.....not experience.
 
Fred...I've always played that the opponent gets to pick the shooter's last pocket (if the shooter makes their last ball in the opponent's last pocket)...even choosing the side pocket. I've also seen it played where the shooter's pocket, in this circumstance, became the opposite pocket (on the other end of the table). Haven't encountered the second scenario, but in the instance where one player accidentally pockets their opponent's last ball, that pocket becomes last pocket for the opponent.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Cornerman said:
Let's follow up on this rule, since Eric is asking about rules. If a person accidentally or on purpose pockets his last ball in the opponent's pocket, I've played that the opponent can nominate your pocket, but it can't be a side pocket. Is that how other's play it?

If you pocket your last two balls at the same time in different pockets, is your last pocket the one you called on your last shot, or the one that the last ball dropped?

Fred
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