in the game of nine ball. after the break. is it legal to play a push out by contacting the lowest number ball on the table first. it seems to me that if you can hit that ball then you should be shooting a skilled shot of some sort and not a push out.
legallity of nine ball push out shot
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Been along time but I don't think you are allowed to do that. John B.
Push out
Yes, it is legal. You won't see it happen very often because as you say, if one has an open hit, there is usually the option to play safe. Generally, the push is used when the shooter has no practical opportunity for a hit or a safety, so they push to a place where they can do something that their opponent will not choose to attempt.
Once the shooter notifies the opponent or ref of their intention to push out, they can do anything they want with the cue ball...the opponent will always have the option to shoot or pass.
Yes, it is legal. You won't see it happen very often because as you say, if one has an open hit, there is usually the option to play safe. Generally, the push is used when the shooter has no practical opportunity for a hit or a safety, so they push to a place where they can do something that their opponent will not choose to attempt.
Once the shooter notifies the opponent or ref of their intention to push out, they can do anything they want with the cue ball...the opponent will always have the option to shoot or pass.
If you declare "push out".
1. You have to make a legal stroke on the cue ball.
2. You may or may not strike any ball(s).
3. If you hit the lowest number ball on the table it is still a "push out".
4. You have given up the right to advance unless you are told to shoot again.
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If you break and make a ball may you still "push out". If you can and you "push out" and make the lowest numbered ball on the table does it still go to the opponent for and option to shoot or pass on the shot? Watched a lengthy debate on this the other night at the small 9 ball tourney a local pub has on Friday night.
If you break and make a ball may you still "push out". If you can and you "push out" and make the lowest numbered ball on the table does it still go to the opponent for and option to shoot or pass on the shot? Watched a lengthy debate on this the other night at the small 9 ball tourney a local pub has on Friday night.
Read above. Other than what was posted there are no stipulations. The first shot after the break can be called a push out whether the person shooting is the breaker or not. Nothing else matters- if a ball is made, etc.
A legal hit is not needed although a legal hit is allowed. Either way- once a push is declared the opponent has the choice to shoot or not.
Legal or not, I'll let my opponent call push by hitting the ball 'on'.
I like having the option of shooting or telling him to shoot.
Anybody have a scenario where it is advantageous to push under these
circumstances?
Legal or not, I'll let my opponent call push by hitting the ball 'on'.
I like having the option of shooting or telling him to shoot.
Anybody have a scenario where it is advantageous to push under these
circumstances?
Maybe...
First not get to the third foul without breaking it up. Second...prolly just try jumping the cueball on top of the 2 and see what happens lol.
You'll be the first foul, 'cause your opponent will say 'shoot again'.
There are Many instances when one may want to relocate, pocket or do something else with the one ball/lowest ball on table, if its laying out in the open, it depends on the table layout and your opponents skill level, and match score and Many other things....there is no simple ''one size fits all'' answer to this question. The one shot that is often not shot is an intentional scratch during the roll out, but there are times when this is to your advantage. There is NO one answer to fit your question. RG got about as close to perfect in explaining this.
Here is your reason sir.
Lol...ok.
So do you want the push-scratch BIH back, or hope he makes 1 in side and go into the stack and gets bad? Or do you do it?
Does that 9 go?
Yes, and if you don't think that the push out is a skill shot, think again! Whether you are playing current rules or the old style pushout game of 9 ball, it's still a skill shot, much more so than many people today give it credit for.