Light Grip for playing pool.

Electrical charge and a pressure switch. Get jolted a few times and you will learn light pressure quickly. Johnnyt
 
Here's a tip I got from "so and so". Clinching the cue on power strokes is caused by your baby finger and palm gripping tightly and/or your forefinger and palm gripping too tightly. Somebody said using a piece of chalk between the forefinger and butt. Similar idea, but here's what I do...I use my middle finger as a cradle and concentrate on gripping with it.

If you use your middle finger, it's hard to twist the cue. Your little finger and your forefinger rest lightly on the cue and add only "touch", like CJ says. I heard Buddy uses his ring finger for guidance.

Check out a lot of pros and notice their forefingers and/or little fingers are slightly off of the cue on parts of their stroke. This helps eliminate dragging the cue behind you and off line on your backstroke. It also helps to keep the hand straight on the forward stroke.

When you first try it on a draw shot, you'll get all kinds of crazy feedback. This is good because it'll add to your understanding of what's causing your grip clenching. It'll also feel very strange, but you'll probably notice a more relaxed grip and follow through.

Best,
Mike

Thanks Mike.

I've seen players like Jon Macias who curls his little finger, so that it rests on the side of the cue. When I asked him about it, he quipped that he didn't know he did that. :grin:

Lots of good suggestions about eliminating the clinching. I'll be sure and try some except for Tramps suggestion. :wink:

JoeyA
 
Electrical charge and a pressure switch. Get jolted a few times and you will learn light pressure quickly. Johnnyt

A 9 volt battery would probably add a good ounce to the cue and that's about what I need added to my cue. EXCELLENT! :rolleyes:

JoeyA
 
You're no fun. Johnnyt

I was thinking more down the line of a Sea-Band, maybe add a couple of pieces of long grain rice and super glue them in there and just affix across the palm of your hand. It might eliminate clinching and you would never get sea-sick.

JoeyA
 
I was thinking more down the line of a Sea-Band, maybe add a couple of pieces of long grain rice and super glue them in there and just affix across the palm of your hand. It might eliminate clinching and you would never get sea-sick.

JoeyA
LMAO. Johnnyt
 
A cube of chalk between the index finger and thumb

When you play with 30 dollar chalk, thats a good place to keep it anyway.

For myself, its just a constant reminder thing as part of my PSR. My follow thru isn't anywhere close to being the same or good if I have a death grip
on the cue. Can't spin the ball as well either.
 
I realize a couple of top players claim they play with a tight grip but most top players use far less than a tight grip.

I find myself occasionally clinching my cue during the stroke, especially on power shots and was wondering if an anti-clinching tool would come in handy. Maybe something like some coarse sand paper in the area where your stroking hand holds the butt of the cue.

Is there something else that might work to encourage you to not clinch during a power shot, that you an think of? (something practical)

Earl..... I mean JoeyA.

I find this Snooker Video good to see. But in general, if your natural bridge is short most of the time, you have to have hard grip so you can get the power for power shots from muscles, if your bridge is long, then you can grip light and speed of cue will provide power to the shot. Say about 5" from rail, and need to shoot a shot with speed, it is near impossible to be accurate with light grip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmRcYLVZdVI
 
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I realize a couple of top players claim they play with a tight grip but most top players use far less than a tight grip.

I find myself occasionally clinching my cue during the stroke, especially on power shots and was wondering if an anti-clinching tool would come in handy. Maybe something like some coarse sand paper in the area where your stroking hand holds the butt of the cue.

Is there something else that might work to encourage you to not clinch during a power shot, that you an think of? (something practical)

Earl..... I mean JoeyA.

Take your index finger off the cue and cradle the cue on your middle and ring fingers. Give it a try on a shot you hit with pace. Try it on a power break even. Let us know how it works for you.
 
Consistent grip pressure is the key

I realize a couple of top players claim they play with a tight grip but most top players use far less than a tight grip.

I find myself occasionally clinching my cue during the stroke, especially on power shots and was wondering if an anti-clinching tool would come in handy. Maybe something like some coarse sand paper in the area where your stroking hand holds the butt of the cue.

Is there something else that might work to encourage you to not clinch during a power shot, that you an think of? (something practical)

Earl..... I mean JoeyA.

Francisco "appears" to have one of the loosest grips in Pro Pool, but notice in this picture how he is in the follow through. This is NOT a loose hand position.

Consistent grip pressure is the key and if you want more acceleration (power) in your stroke it's done with the correct use of the fingers/wrist/hand......and the "cocking of the wrist" so that you have something to release through the cue ball.

If you don't create acceleration in the hand (that holds the cue) then you are forced to use all "arm" and this is where the shoulder may creep into the equation, and that can create some serious accuracy issues.

CLICK PIC>

Check out this breaking action and by the look of Bustemante's arm this is far from a "loose" grip......you must create a downward release of the wrist to create power, much like the motion used in hammering a nail.
 
That is an interesting notice.
Thanks.

Maybe that's why you will see even Johnny Archer take a deep breath before one of those tough come-with-it shots.

JoeyA

I think it's all about the amount of tension in your body. When you are relaxed and free wheeling it probably is never is an issue. Get a tough shot for something on the line and the arm gets a little tighter. Whatever the right grip is for you, you probably already know (it feels right), its just getting consistent with it.

I've noticed watching top players that even their power shots are executed in a relaxed fashion. I don't think they will shoot a shot until they get to that right state of mind/feeling.
 
You old dinosaur. What do you know about pool or solid mechanics? :D:grin-square::grin-devilish:....Ok, of course developing solid mechanics is what it's all about.

The thing is I have pretty solid mechanics. Every now and then I forget about this or that, just like I forget about holding the cue with the same amount of pressure throughout the stroke even on power shots.<--????

I think that a device that signals you that you clinched the cue might help you develop solid mechanics or just remind you that you are clinching the cue.

I have a "product" idea, besides hitting another million balls to help me remember to keep the consistent pressure throughout the stroke.
<--????????? :wink:

JoeyA

Joey, Joey, Joey,...You seem to have weined yourself off EVERY new "aiming system" that ever came down the pike !...I was so proud of you ! :thumbup:...Now, why do you feel compelled to invent "Mechanical Aids" to improve your basic fundamentals ! :eek:

Puhleeeeeeze do not go there, Joey !..Tacks, sandpaper, graham crackers, pistachio shells, or even 'electrical shock therapy',..will NEVER replace "Hit a Million Balls" and common sense !..Please, I would almost prefer your old "CTE Pro1, BHE, Hal Houle", infomercials !..Why would you want to confuse ANOTHER generation of aspiring pool player's ? :confused:

PS..I am not THAT old !....Greenleaf often took my sage advice ! ;)...However, I seem to have completely lost your ASS co-hort, John Barton ! :eek: ( have you seen his latest video, where he proves he can easily mis-cue, even with Kamui chalk ?..I expect litigation) :cool:

PSS..It was also heartwarming for Lou and I, to see that he had to shoot 'mach II speed' in order to draw his ball two or three feet ! (even Rhea can double that..lol )
 
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If you would consider this a habit then break it by doing something different in your PSR.

Firmly grasp the cue when standing up and lining the shot. As you get down its time to relax.

I do this on all shots. Disclaimer: nearly every time I think of something on my own it turns out to cause another error. Haven't found it yet although.
 
I finally got a picture of SJD's favorite grip position

Joey, Joey, Joey,...You seem to have weined yourself off EVERY new "aiming system" that ever came down the pike !...I was so proud of you :thumbup: !...Now, why do you feel compelled to invent "Mechanical Aids" to improve basic fundamentals ! :eek:

Puhleeeeeeze do not go there !..Tacks, sandpaper, graham crackers, pistachio shells, or 'electrical shock therapy',..will NEVER replace "Hit a Million Balls" and common sense !..Please, I would almost prefer your old "CTEPro1, BHE, Hal Houle", infomercials !..Why would you want to confuse ANOTHER generation of aspiring pool player's ? :confused:

PS..I am not THAT old !....Greenleaf often took my sage advice !
;) (However, I seem to have lost your ASS co-hort, John Barton !) :eek:

I finally got a picture of SJD's favorite grip position (can't tell if it's tight or loose)....he's correct, some things can't (or shouldn't) be taught. ;)

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I find this Snooker Video good to see. But in general, if your natural bridge is short most of the time, you have to have hard grip so you can get the power for power shots from muscles, if your bridge is long, then you can grip light and speed of cue will provide power to the shot. Say about 5" from rail, and need to shoot a shot with speed, it is near impossible to be accurate with light grip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmRcYLVZdVI

I agree, looking at good video instruction like this can definitely help. Thanks!

Take your index finger off the cue and cradle the cue on your middle and ring fingers. Give it a try on a shot you hit with pace. Try it on a power break even. Let us know how it works for you.

Dr9ball,
I will have to try that another night. I'm back in for the evening. I didn't have much problem drawing the cue ball with 5 or 6 diamonds distance between cue ball and object ball, drawing the cue ball back an equal number of diamonds. I didn't make the ball and draw the cue ball back every time but I see that I just have to work on my technique.

My grip pressure varies depending on the shot to be played.
That's interesting fonz.

I think it's all about the amount of tension in your body. When you are relaxed and free wheeling it probably is never is an issue. Get a tough shot for something on the line and the arm gets a little tighter. Whatever the right grip is for you, you probably already know (it feels right), its just getting consistent with it.

I've noticed watching top players that even their power shots are executed in a relaxed fashion. I don't think they will shoot a shot until they get to that right state of mind/feeling.

Yes, tension has a lot to do with it, I agree. Need to work more on technique because I can put the screw on the cue ball when I do everything right. I just don't do everything right, "every time". :D

If you would consider this a habit then break it by doing something different in your PSR.

Firmly grasp the cue when standing up and lining the shot. As you get down its time to relax.

I do this on all shots. Disclaimer: nearly every time I think of something on my own it turns out to cause another error. Haven't found it yet although.

I like the idea of trying that and will experiment with it in the near future. Thanks.


I finally got a picture of SJD's favorite grip position (can't tell if it's tight or loose)....he's correct, some things can't (or shouldn't) be taught. ;)

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Dick is just trying to help. :eek:

JoeyA
 
Grip pressure isn't anything I think about. Like golf you want to have a grip that allows you to have control of the cue, but upon execution I think the shot will dictate what your grip pressure will be at the end of the stroke. This is what works for me anyhow.
 
I'd love to cure this. I clinch the cue and radially deviate my cue often on hard strokes. It causes my tio to dive down and move inwards. Definitely the worst part of my stroke. My game s so much better when I can avoid this.
 
I'd love to cure this. I clinch the cue and radially deviate my cue often on hard strokes. It causes my tio to dive down and move inwards. Definitely the worst part of my stroke. My game s so much better when I can avoid this.

Tonight I was kind of loosening my grip on the successful attempts at power draw shots where long distance from the object ball was involved. It is just a conscious mental effort and it seemed to work more often than not. The shot that was giving me trouble isn't giving me as much trouble, but it's not an easy power draw shot on a 4.5" Diamond table.

It's a whole lot easier when you practice it. :smile:

I'll try to better describe it when I am more successful with it.

Thanks for all of the great suggestions.

JoeyA
 
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