Long thin points in a shaft.

Celtic

Celtic

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I once saw a Kevin Deroo cue that had thin long points cut into the shaft.

I was wondering if anyone knows of a cue maker doing this or has a picture of a shaft with thin non-butterfyl points?

Also does anyone who builds cues have the general idea of how it is done? The thin points that are that long would seem to require a very sharp angled cut into the shaft with a specific bit and then the point would need to be cut with the same angle to fit into that slot I am guessing?
 
doesn't sound very durable....

might look cool for a "show" shaft


but you might want to avoid "power draw"
 
It's done basically the same way points are cut into the forearm, just cut at a different angle.
It may look trick but I don't see that it adds anything to the shaft's performance or harmonics; may actually detract.
Kinda like making a tuning fork from multiple pieces.
If it's something that someone would really want, I'd suggest doing it with decals.
 
KJ Cues said:
It's done basically the same way points are cut into the forearm, just cut at a different angle.
It may look trick but I don't see that it adds anything to the shaft's performance or harmonics; may actually detract.
Kinda like making a tuning fork from multiple pieces.
If it's something that someone would really want, I'd suggest doing it with decals.
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do you have any decals for sale? lol just kidding
 
KJ's right. They would be far more decorative than functional. The butt end of a shaft absorbs a lot of energy from shot to shot. Over time you would probably find these points splitting, or the glue joints separating, and they would be almost impossible to repair.
 
I bought mine in '66. Very solid hit.
 

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I have seen it done!

As a matter of fact, I have a very good friend who owns a cue with points in the shaft. This shaft was built for him by Jerry Powers of Jerico cues. The points are flat bottom pockets and not v-cut and they are only about inches long coming up from the joint. He has owned the shaft for several years and plays with it quite a bit with no problems. He has never mentioned that he found a difference in playability, only that he likes the looks on his beautiful old Billy Schick.

My personal belief is that it is purely cosmetic. I don't really think there is much difference in flex between this part of the shaft and the area of the butt just below the joint. If inlays are fine there, they should be in the shaft too.

I think this is the first time that KJ and I are of a different opinion. Wow! Not that it matters much.

Thanks!

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com
 
RBC said:
I have seen it done!

As a matter of fact, I have a very good friend who owns a cue with points in the shaft. This shaft was built for him by Jerry Powers of Jerico cues. The points are flat bottom pockets and not v-cut and they are only about inches long coming up from the joint. He has owned the shaft for several years and plays with it quite a bit with no problems. He has never mentioned that he found a difference in playability, only that he likes the looks on his beautiful old Billy Schick.
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Yeah, certainly not doing it for some theoretical difference in playability, simply really liked the look. I did hit with the Deroo that had the points and it hit sweet, but from what I gather his shafts all hit the ball well.

How thin are the points on your friends cue and about how long? I am figuring on going only about 10-12 inches or so at the most. I checked for Jerico cues on google but he does not have much in the way of stuff to see online.
 
Thanks guys, I cannot figure how you found those. Trying to search for pictures of shafts with points in them is not working for me, searching "points" and "shaft" together get a billion and one cues for sale that come with a shaft, and the butt happens to have points too.

I WISH I could find a pic of the Deroo, the points in it were likely only 3-4mm at the base and came to a sharp point almost 12 inchs up the shaft. It was a cool look, quite different from the above cues.
 
Inlaid Shafts

Inlaid Shafts are the nutz. The first is a Palmer 20 from the 3rd Catalog (ripped of course from Tate):

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The 2nd is from a Ginacue that I think is now in Tikkler's fabulous collection:

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The 3rd go to a ivory handled Gina made in the 1960s:

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Pretty stuff.

Kevin
 
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If I'm not mistaken, aren't the cues made in Russia for the Russian Pyramid game commonly made with pointed shafts? I also seem to remember seeing "The Russian" (can't remember name) in the US Open with a cue that had a shaft with points a few years back.
dave
 
kvinbrwr, nice finds!

You have me thinking about maybe forgoing the long thin points and going for shorter ones that end sooner. Those are also less likely to affect the hit.
 
Stalev

Tokyo-dave said:
If I'm not mistaken, aren't the cues made in Russia for the Russian Pyramid game commonly made with pointed shafts? I also seem to remember seeing "The Russian" (can't remember name) in the US Open with a cue that had a shaft with points a few years back.
dave
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Dave,

Did you mean Evgeny Stalev?

-Ivan
 
mike gulyassey has been making some of them. i have seen a couple cocobolo points in the shafts they only go up about 8-12 inches though. they kinda look neat but it wouldnt be something i would like on a cue, but its yours so i really dont care
 
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