Interesting link! :grin:
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Interesting link! :grin:
Glad somebody else agrees with me, JoeyA. :smile:
Balls with no stripes, circles, or any marks are better, so players are at same playing field when it comes to aiming aids, some players use these marks, as well as lighting marks to aim. But different color is essential for commentating, also if a ball fell in other pockets and no one saw it, which one? or if someone touches the balls, which balls moved? another issue at times it helps identify which ball was made in case of a mix up, to discourage steeling balls.
In a thread about CJ Wiley, you recently posted this example of "good content": "I just read an article about a lady named Genene Jones incarcerated for killing 11 to 46 babies as a doctor's assistant, and she's from from Kerrville. They're talking about releasing her from jail.
"Maybe there's a reason why your good content is being overlooked? You gotta try to stay on topic.
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In a thread about CJ Wiley, you recently posted this example of "good content": "I just read an article about a lady named Genene Jones incarcerated for killing 11 to 46 babies as a doctor's assistant, and she's from from Kerrville. They're talking about releasing her from jail.
Maybe there's a reason why your good content is being overlooked? You gotta try to stay on topic.
In the thread, if you read it, KerrvilleNit and I exchanged a colloquy, and I told him I had never heard of Kerrville before. As it turns out, thereafter, within a short day or two, I read about Genene Jones, who hailed from Kerrville. It was relevant to the back-and-forth colloquy contained in the thread.
Interesting contribution to this thread. Next?
I guess because Billy got his number!!, who said Billy cannot play, see YouTube attached, i wonder who was commentating???..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSZBNAvZlY
Perfect, this way as a commentator you (or anyone) would always be right. To add to your list:
"The black ball out of the stack looks dead to me"
"He will duck behind the black ball, that was a smart shot. I didnt see it"
In snooker with 15 "reds" the commentators actually have it down cold and actually do convey to the listing audience what red the player is going to shoot, they first talk about the reds that are in play then use a color or the black ball as a reference point to establish which red will be potted next. Sometimes they use the "Yellow pocket or Bag to refer th the pocket the yellow spot is neatest to or the green as those 2 balls have their own pocket near their spot on the snooker table. It a bit tricky i'm sure-commentary is in general for me, and the audience has to know a bit about snooker for it all to work.
on a serious note, using 15 balls all the same color for 1P would be very difficult impossible to commentate, or listen to. i suppose you could use the cushions as a reference point, "the black ball nearest to his pocket or bottom cushion" would work. The problem starts with balls in the center of the table with no reference points "yes he should shoot the 4th black ball of the left cushion near the spot to the left of the other black ball in the middle of the table"
God rest his soul but can you imagine Grady and Billy in the booth together arguing about which black ball is next?? I'd love it, they were a hell of a team even tho they were not always the best of friends. I do believe there was lots of respect between them tho. I miss Grady, man he would get fired up sometimes, miss that too.
Player A: "Ok black ball corner pocket"
Player B : "Foul"
Player A : "I didnt foul I called that shot"
Player B : "No you called that other black ball"
Player A : "Did not!!!"
Player B : "Did too!!!"
Player A : "FU"
Player B : "FU2"
Players A & B : "We need the TD Jay Helfert to come resolve this beef"
Players A & B : "JAY!!!!!"
Jay : "What's the problem here?"
Player A & B talking at the same time : "I shot the black ball, did not, did to, FU, F Me? no FU and your dog"
Jay : "Guys, guys guys!! Did you agree to shoot with all black balls the new standard in one pocket that was established on AZB?"
A&B Together : "Yes"
Jay : "Well then take it up with JAM, I got to catch a airplane to the PI. See ya'll later"
A & B agree to call JAM, "Hello JAM how are you"
JAM "I'm busy typing 350 WPM, in the back ground "Keith take the damned phone""
Keith : "Whats the beef?"
A&B : (inaudible)
Keith : "I just flopped a set and I got to listen to this shit, I got to get back for the turn, & river its a lock, so STFU and shoot the black ball"
A & B : "fatboy sure has bad endings for his stories..."
Fatboy : "Sorry I thought I could come up with a clever ending":embarrassed2::embarrassed2:
Damn it I tried to come up with a better funny ending, and couldn't for the last 15 minutes, no knock on you JAM(I just put you in the joke as a fun idea for it), I am open for a better ending.
take care
eric
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Sooooo.... how's the 1p thing going?
he could definitely win the one today, especially because it's on the "Big Box"
Cliff Joyner (CJ#2
) plays One Pocket really well on the 5/10 table. He's the only one I didn't beat on my 10' table at CJ's Billiard Palace in Dallas, he could definitely win this one coming up, especially since it's on the "Big Box".
Cliff Joyner (CJ#2
) plays One Pocket really well on the 5/10 table. He's the only one I didn't beat on my 10' table at CJ's Billiard Palace in Dallas, he could definitely win this one coming up, especially since it's on the "Big Box".not many play as well as they did just 10 years ago and Cliff is no exception.
It was only 5 years ago he played a local here in San Antonio right after the finish of one of the Fast Eddies stops. he gave up 14-4 top one of the locals and it was not even close.
He took three intentional scratches and then ran 17 and out.
The next game, he took 3 intentional scratches and ran 17 and out.
What happened next? The local never looked at his side of the table again or would even think of shooting at his pocket.
Does he still have that firepower? I doubt it, but neither does Efren nor Shannon. So, why the omission? The man has been giving up ridiculous weight for years and shooting the lock off.
just being on the selection comitee would be a very tough job.
Race? No shot at jam intended, but i certainly hope not.
I never seen anyone take as many fouls on purpose as Cliff, thats pretty strong, and says a lot about his confidence. Additionally it shows that he is not worried about running balls, it shows he knows he can contain his man long enough to run what ever he needs to to win. I seen him at the Derby with 10(had to be-a stack) of pennys on his side, in more than one game that night. he took intentional after intentional foul, cant recall who he was playing.
Cliff will be in the HOF, for all practical purposes he already is in the minds of the people who know 1P, and respect from your peers in more valuable than the HOF IMO. And Cliff is well respected as a all time top 1P player, I have never heard otherwise. Even people who aint all that hip to 1P , who know about pool, know Cliff is among the best ever @ 1P.
I am here in person. Very excited to be able to see it live.
seelesscacti
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Perfect, this way as a commentator you (or anyone) would always be right. To add to your list:
"The black ball out of the stack looks dead to me"
"He will duck behind the black ball, that was a smart shot. I didnt see it"
In snooker with 15 "reds" the commentators actually have it down cold and actually do convey to the listing audience what red the player is going to shoot, they first talk about the reds that are in play then use a color or the black ball as a reference point to establish which red will be potted next. Sometimes they use the "Yellow pocket or Bag to refer th the pocket the yellow spot is neatest to or the green as those 2 balls have their own pocket near their spot on the snooker table. It a bit tricky i'm sure-commentary is in general for me, and the audience has to know a bit about snooker for it all to work.
on a serious note, using 15 balls all the same color for 1P would be very difficult impossible to commentate, or listen to. i suppose you could use the cushions as a reference point, "the black ball nearest to his pocket or bottom cushion" would work. The problem starts with balls in the center of the table with no reference points "yes he should shoot the 4th black ball of the left cushion near the spot to the left of the other black ball in the middle of the table"
God rest his soul but can you imagine Grady and Billy in the booth together arguing about which black ball is next?? I'd love it, they were a hell of a team even tho they were not always the best of friends. I do believe there was lots of respect between them tho. I miss Grady, man he would get fired up sometimes, miss that too.
Player A: "Ok black ball corner pocket"
Player B : "Foul"
Player A : "I didnt foul I called that shot"
Player B : "No you called that other black ball"
Player A : "Did not!!!"
Player B : "Did too!!!"
Player A : "FU"
Player B : "FU2"
Players A & B : "We need the TD Jay Helfert to come resolve this beef"
Players A & B : "JAY!!!!!"
Jay : "What's the problem here?"
Player A & B talking at the same time : "I shot the black ball, did not, did to, FU, F Me? no FU and your dog"
Jay : "Guys, guys guys!! Did you agree to shoot with all black balls the new standard in one pocket that was established on AZB?"
A&B Together : "Yes"
Jay : "Well then take it up with JAM, I got to catch a airplane to the PI. See ya'll later"
A & B agree to call JAM, "Hello JAM how are you"
JAM "I'm busy typing 350 WPM, in the back ground "Keith take the damned phone""
Keith : "Whats the beef?"
A&B : (inaudible)
Keith : "I just flopped a set and I got to listen to this shit, I got to get back for the turn, & river its a lock, so STFU and shoot the black ball"
A & B : "fatboy sure has bad endings for his stories..."
Fatboy : "Sorry I thought I could come up with a clever ending":embarrassed2::embarrassed2:
Damn it I tried to come up with a better funny ending, and couldn't for the last 15 minutes, no knock on you JAM(I just put you in the joke as a fun idea for it), I am open for a better ending.
take care
eric
Amusing story, sure. But I personally am not sold that all same colored balls would make the game worse. Call shot thing isn't an issue with One Pocket. And though I grant there is an issue with communicating with words about what is happening in the game, what is gained by all balls being one color is that the game itself is giving players and viewers improved communication through visuals (the same way that reds and yellows in eight ball can instantly communicate the table layout a lot better than solids and stripes).
For commentating, what would need to be done is to better visually illustrate what shot the commentator is seeing through drawing a diagram. And the reality is that diagramming a shot communicates information better than commentators quickly trying to explain something through words. Problem is that it is expensive and slow to diagram shots.
Anyway, I see the stream started, and they are using normal balls, so this is all moot.
I agree, i'd be very happy to play 1P with all yellow balls or any bright color, in fact i'd prefer that to the numbered balls.
