Making a world beater
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Yes,i think you have to love the game with every cell of your body to stand any chance in the first place.Then find a good teacher,this can speed up the whole process. And be ready to practice....A LOT! 
other than that you need good eye-sight to make all those long cutshots and good fitness regime to endure long practice/tournament sessions.conclusion?yes,i honestly believe that almost anyone can become world beater if he/she puts enough work focused into right direction into it.
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other than that you need good eye-sight to make all those long cutshots and good fitness regime to endure long practice/tournament sessions.conclusion?yes,i honestly believe that almost anyone can become world beater if he/she puts enough work focused into right direction into it.Sent from my MB632 using Tapatalk 2
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Is that World Beater...or Egg Beater? Egg Beater's are "made"...World beaters are "born".
i would have to say that no not just anyone could be made into a world beater. even with all the love for the game and training and willingness to practice in the world if a person does not have a certain appitude for playing great pool to begin with they will never be able to rise to that level.
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I tend to agree with this. But, from what I'm told, Dick Lane is an example of a guy that got to the top level by sheer determination and long hours of practice, as opposed to an abundance of natural talent. Interesting topic.
IMO all the elite players I know were great players pretty early on in their career. Then they get seasoning that teaches them how to win.
I don't think anyone could take a B player thats been playing for ten years and make him a world beater. If the guy had the talent, drive and desire required to play at a high level he would already be there.
Most things I have been around it seems that you can reach a certain level just on hard work but to be truly great there has to be some amount of natural aptitude or talent there.
I don't think anyone could take a B player thats been playing for ten years and make him a world beater. If the guy had the talent, drive and desire required to play at a high level he would already be there.
Most things I have been around it seems that you can reach a certain level just on hard work but to be truly great there has to be some amount of natural aptitude or talent there.
Yep, have to go with this answer.
I believe with enough desire, love, and practice it's not impossible to reach short stop level. To reach world beater status is another beast. There are very few people that can reach this level of play. You have to Be in love with the game and have a super strong desire to be the best. Oh yeah you need tons of God gifted talent!
I think if you want to be the best the world has ever seen at something, you have to start on it at age 7. If you want to be #1 during your lifetime, you have to start by the time you're 14. If you want to be pretty good, maybe you can start when you're 21. I've heard recent studies that show that you learn best and most deeply about the time your body is growing quickly. I might be off a little on the ages, but you get the idea. Think Lindrum and Mozart.
So, I think part of it is timing. A follow-on idea is that if you want a person or group to be truly competitive, you need to have a related youth program. A serious program. If you wait until high school, it may be too late.
As for the OP, it depends a lot on the player, the goals, and the resources. When did he start playing pool? Is his goal to win a world championship or the local 8 ball league? With reasonable effort he can be better than 99.999% of all people who play pool, but that just gets him to #1000 in the world. That's probably good enough to win the local league championship.
So, I think part of it is timing. A follow-on idea is that if you want a person or group to be truly competitive, you need to have a related youth program. A serious program. If you wait until high school, it may be too late.
As for the OP, it depends a lot on the player, the goals, and the resources. When did he start playing pool? Is his goal to win a world championship or the local 8 ball league? With reasonable effort he can be better than 99.999% of all people who play pool, but that just gets him to #1000 in the world. That's probably good enough to win the local league championship.
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Our brain is rearranged to adapt to our living circumstances. It is known that children who learn a foreign language in infancy have an easier time learning a foreign language later in life because they have “expanded” that part of their brain that works with language.
If you do not use that portion of your brain that can be used to learn to ride a bicycle that part of the brain is used for something else such as how to play a violin.
In general some people did not develop their hand eye coordination to the extent they could early in life and so it is difficult to play at the top levels because they do not have the brain connections to support this type of thing. Certainly one can develop their pool playing skills to a high level in adulthood but the basic foundation (set in childhood) is not adequate to the task of becoming a world beater.
The brain is amazingly plastic in its ability to adapt, especially in the face of severe trauma. None-the-less there are limits and world beaters are not only born with the innate ability they develop that ability early in life. This is true for nearly all the people throughout history who made astounding contributions to society.
Our brain is rearranged to adapt to our living circumstances. It is known that children who learn a foreign language in infancy have an easier time learning a foreign language later in life because they have “expanded” that part of their brain that works with language.
If you do not use that portion of your brain that can be used to learn to ride a bicycle that part of the brain is used for something else such as how to play a violin.
In general some people did not develop their hand eye coordination to the extent they could early in life and so it is difficult to play at the top levels because they do not have the brain connections to support this type of thing. Certainly one can develop their pool playing skills to a high level in adulthood but the basic foundation (set in childhood) is not adequate to the task of becoming a world beater.
The brain is amazingly plastic in its ability to adapt, especially in the face of severe trauma. None-the-less there are limits and world beaters are not only born with the innate ability they develop that ability early in life. This is true for nearly all the people throughout history who made astounding contributions to society.
Start 'em Young!
In regards to youth player development,it is why I wished the BCA had spent a few more years developing the Summer Cue Camps Program. Having coaches be able to give input on how to effectively build the program for efficiency and accessibility.
Being able to assess talent is also an important function of coaching. There are few people who actually have enough skills to do this. Observation is only a small part of being able to say that a player has what it takes.
Personal desire will get you only so far, for so long with good talent.
Happy New Year, Pool Players.
Bob, I agree with you.Especially the part about the early development program. I remember first playing pool as a youngster of 11, then becoming involved in Little League Baseball. Having coaches that understood how to explain the fundamentals, was critical to development. It is why Jr. High Sports Programs are the foundation of scholastic sports. Your observation of the 13-14 year olds displaying the skills to take them to #1 is spot on.
In regards to youth player development,it is why I wished the BCA had spent a few more years developing the Summer Cue Camps Program. Having coaches be able to give input on how to effectively build the program for efficiency and accessibility.
Being able to assess talent is also an important function of coaching. There are few people who actually have enough skills to do this. Observation is only a small part of being able to say that a player has what it takes.
Personal desire will get you only so far, for so long with good talent.
Happy New Year, Pool Players.
Svb
If we could just clone SVB use his DNA or yet show people hard work real desire and knowledge. It takes all of these plus competition to get there. You have to be able to take it from the room to the tourn. or the match if gambling. You can only play the best you can you cant control what others do.You try to give 100% there isnt any more . Being successful is like Shane on the natch fearless and with class .His granpa built him right.
If we could just clone SVB use his DNA or yet show people hard work real desire and knowledge. It takes all of these plus competition to get there. You have to be able to take it from the room to the tourn. or the match if gambling. You can only play the best you can you cant control what others do.You try to give 100% there isnt any more . Being successful is like Shane on the natch fearless and with class .His granpa built him right.
I hear a lot of people throwing out terms like "Natural ability" or "God given talent" as a prerequisite for achieving a world beater status.
I have to disagree totaly with that mentality. It would mean that only a select few are even afforded the whereforall to achieve world beater status from birth regardles of desire or drive.
While genetics may play a factor in a persons personality which might contribute to their drive to succeed or even their obsession for the game, these are just attributes that can be nurtured. They have no influence on a persons "ability" to perform at the highest standards simply a persons disposition or willingness to perform at that level. Incentivize a sport with enough cash and many, many more unmotivated players will find the willingness.
While it is also apparent that as we age, we lose some of the benefits afforded a young developing brain, that dosen't mean we lose the ability to learn. There are many older players with the knowledge to achieve world beater status but age has robbed them of the endurance and intense levels of focus necessary to sustain the level of committment in time and effort required to keep their skills honed.
Since the vast majority of success on a pool table is learned behavior and programming, I believe that anyone with sufficient desire, reasonable intelect and the ability to sustain their focus levels and commit the time to keep their skills sharp, could achieve and maintain a world beater status with sufficient practice and education.
Throw enough money into the sport like tennis or golf and you'd find a multitude of world beaters climbing out of the woodwork within 2 to 3 years.
I have to disagree totaly with that mentality. It would mean that only a select few are even afforded the whereforall to achieve world beater status from birth regardles of desire or drive.
While genetics may play a factor in a persons personality which might contribute to their drive to succeed or even their obsession for the game, these are just attributes that can be nurtured. They have no influence on a persons "ability" to perform at the highest standards simply a persons disposition or willingness to perform at that level. Incentivize a sport with enough cash and many, many more unmotivated players will find the willingness.
While it is also apparent that as we age, we lose some of the benefits afforded a young developing brain, that dosen't mean we lose the ability to learn. There are many older players with the knowledge to achieve world beater status but age has robbed them of the endurance and intense levels of focus necessary to sustain the level of committment in time and effort required to keep their skills honed.
Since the vast majority of success on a pool table is learned behavior and programming, I believe that anyone with sufficient desire, reasonable intelect and the ability to sustain their focus levels and commit the time to keep their skills sharp, could achieve and maintain a world beater status with sufficient practice and education.
Throw enough money into the sport like tennis or golf and you'd find a multitude of world beaters climbing out of the woodwork within 2 to 3 years.
If you do nothing except shoot pool for 24/7, 365 days a year while making a concentrated effort to actually excel at the game and attempt to learn as much of the game as possible by playing every single person regardless if they are either banger level or top pro, you will become a freak.
Forget about pool, look at Basketball or Football or Baseball. There is real money there. There are THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of 10 year old kids playing their hearts out, with the goal of being a pro when they grow up. For you that say anyone can do it, why is it that only a fraction of a fraction of a percent will make it onto a pro team when they grow up?
Two ways to think of this. Is it really true that there are THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of kids who play their heart out and don't make it? Or is it the kids who do make it, the best of there sports, are really the ones that put their heart and soul into being the best? I would bet if you talked to the Micahel Jordan's, the Tiger Wood's, the Muhammed Ali's or any other person who was once considered the best ever in their sport, that there definition of "playing their hearts out" is worlds different from what you or I consider "playing their hearts out".
I wasn't trying to say that I was going to quit my job to play pool full time or anything like that I was just curious if you got the time and availability of a coach or person who knows the game well if it was possible to be a world beater. Money and time is something I got enough of to do as I want so paying a coach and for table time isn't a problem.
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