Mark Wilson's Two MC Picks

kagewest said:
You guys that don't like scott only show your ignorance.
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Oh, I see you were serious. I think it just shows that you're an overzealous Scott Frost fan, no one outside of AZ agrees with you. He's a good 9baller but not good enough to be on that team. If they were playing 1P, he'd be a shoe in.
 
sjm said:
Justin Bergman is a no brainer. He's playing great and will be a huge asset to the team. His omission would be absolutely ridiculous.

Johnny Archer had a bad year and a bad US Open in which he lost 11-1 to Souquet (not really the hint we needed that he's ready to tackle Europe's best) and was eliminated by Mike Davis. If he's selected, it will be on his Mosconi record alone, and while I'd get that, I've seen little evidence in either of the past two years that he'll contribute much, and let's add that he did not contribute even a half point to the 2013 Team USA cause. Johnny is one of the best ever but his inclusion would amount to a lifetime achievement award.

Sticking with the old guard, Rodney Morris showed he's in good form, coming 13th I think, and Earl looked washed up. Still, I want to go young.

Although a solid case can be made for Justin Hall, who shone in the 2014 Mosconi Cup, his form was not especially storng at the US Open from my vantage point. Skyler Woodward is the obvious fifth choice to me. He beat YL Chang, one of the world's ten best players, at the US Open, and, I believe came 17th. That's speaks volumes to me. Oscar Dominguez, despite solid play in a tight loss against Ekonomopoulos, did not cash at the US Open, and likely played his way out of consideration.

Let's see if Mark Wilson goes young or not. A team of SVB, Corey, Dechaine, Bergman and Woodward would actually have a shot to win and would help build the pedigree of Team USA for the future. Wilson's skill in bringing along young players is rightly celebrated, and if he goes young, we'll be in pretty good shape in December.
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Best post in the thread. Spot on.
 
Alex Kanapilly said:
Oh, I see you were serious. I think it just shows that you're an overzealous Scott Frost fan, no one outside of AZ agrees with you. He's a good 9baller but not good enough to be on that team. If they were playing 1P, he'd be a shoe in.
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And no I'm not an overzealous frost fan I'm a fan of winning! I want the best team period!
 
kagewest said:
I'm very serious. You guys don't have a clue how he can play rotation or shoot under pressure.
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No, we do.
Like I said, he's good, but not good enough at 9ball. You're just a big fan I'm guessing. Nothing wrong with that but it clouds your judgement.
It would be a bad selection based on merit.
 
kagewest said:
And no I'm not an overzealous frost fan I'm a fan of winning! I want the best team period!
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In that case Scott ain't on it.

I am pretty sure Scott can get played for big money in a long set in 9-ball if he wanted to try Sky. I am also pretty positive the Action Room will be tripping over each other trying to get even action on Sky.

Even if you skipped Sky, do you really think Frost has a prayer of getting picked over someone like Rodney? Do you think Frost wants to gamble even big money sets against Rodney in rotation pool? He would get robbed in 9-ball or 10-ball against Rodney.
 
Celtic said:
In that case Scott ain't on it.

I am pretty sure Scott can get played for big money in a long set in 9-ball if he wanted to try Sky. I am also pretty positive the Action Room will be tripping over each other trying to get even action on Sky.

Even if you skipped Sky, do you really think Frost has a prayer of getting picked over someone like Rodney? Do you think Frost wants to gamble even big money sets against Rodney in rotation pool? He would get robbed in 9-ball or 10-ball against Rodney.
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Maybe he will chime in and speak for his self. I'm done listening to your smoke.
 
kagewest said:
And no I'm not an overzealous frost fan I'm a fan of winning! I want the best team period!
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OK, so why would you want Frost then? This isn't a high stakes one pocket match.

You said in another post that picking Skylar and Bergman based on points (which means they did well in 9ball tournaments) is like picking by throwing darts. What kind of sense does that make? They are both playing great, they are young and talented, and they BOTH play better 9ball than Frost.

Your earlier argument that the game doesn't matter is just silly. If that were the case, Frost wouldn't be soooo much better at one pocket than he is at any other game. Just look at the history.
 
kagewest said:
Maybe he will chime in and speak for his self. I'm done listening to your smoke.
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That is fine. I have been a fan of Scott for close to two decades. I have always liked to watch him play and have seen him gambles tons both on video and in person. I would rather watch Scott play than Rodney or Sky, but if I am betting on a match that has Scott playing either of those guys my money is not being bet on Scott.

If Scott is the phenom you think he is in rotation pool why does he never win the big events? Why was he obliterated in the US Open while Sky beats Yu Lung Chang and comes back from 10-6 down to beat Majid?

Sky actually won some decent matches in the US Open. Scott? Not so much.

You can talk and post all you want, results are what matters at the end of the day and Scott has none of note in rotation pool.
 
kagewest said:
And no I'm not an overzealous frost fan I'm a fan of winning! I want the best team period!
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I really hate this because over the last couple years my opinion of Scott has gone dramatically upwards, that said I doubt Scott's backers want anything to do with Skyler in rotation games.
 
Oscar -- he plays on a big table more than anyone and has success against tough competition. Plus he beat Sky on a big table, after Oscar had played a tournament the weekend before, drove straight to Vega$, played Bergman a race to 100 and then played Sky a race to 100. He even faded the dinner break put on him by Ozzy and Big Truck.

Beyond that there is no one in pool that has more of a combination of class and skill that Oscar has.
 
watchez said:
Oscar -- he plays on a big table more than anyone and has success against tough competition. Plus he beat Sky on a big table, after Oscar had played a tournament the weekend before, drove straight to Vega$, played Bergman a race to 100 and then played Sky a race to 100. He even faded the dinner break put on him by Ozzy and Big Truck.

Beyond that there is no one in pool that has more of a combination of class and skill that Oscar has.
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I seem to remember Oscar, being the stand up guy he is, taking a share of the blame for the ppv mix-up and proposing the long dinner break as a solution. Also wasn't Skyler the one that was adamantly against the dinner break?
 
Find 5 top players that care more about the title than the money. Those will be your winners. Johnnyt
 
kagewest said:
You have to figure bergman is a shoe in.
Rodney
Sky ( I hope not)
Archer
Frost (my pick)

I'd be shocked if any others were considered. It's a shame Earl can't just play pool that would be a no brainer.
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frost??????? he cant beat anybody man......he is not even close to a top tier usa player.....that is craziest pick I have seen in a while
 
BRussell said:
I'd like Bergman and Sky Woodward. Bergman is more obvious, but Sky is tied in points with Bergman, and I like the idea of building experience in the younger players, even if it means forgoing the experience of more seasoned players.
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you read my mind.....I think these 2 are great picks
 
Black-Balled said:
Scott's not up to the level of the big boys in rotation games, it is true.

I don't think that bothers him a bit...I might say the old 'play you a set of each' bet favors him against anyone, except Alex.
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against alex? lmao.....alex isn't a contender anymore.....the only time I saw alex do anything special this past week is when he was drunk a couple nights ago to the point he couldn't walk and someone was carrying him out of the hotel.....alex is yesterday's news I am afraid
 
sjm said:
Justin Bergman is a no brainer. He's playing great and will be a huge asset to the team. His omission would be absolutely ridiculous.

Johnny Archer had a bad year and a bad US Open in which he lost 11-1 to Souquet (not really the hint we needed that he's ready to tackle Europe's best) and was eliminated by Mike Davis. If he's selected, it will be on his Mosconi record alone, and while I'd get that, I've seen little evidence in either of the past two years that he'll contribute much, and let's add that he did not contribute even a half point to the 2013 Team USA cause. Johnny is one of the best ever but his inclusion would amount to a lifetime achievement award.

Sticking with the old guard, Rodney Morris showed he's in good form, coming 13th I think, and Earl looked washed up. Still, I want to go young.

Although a solid case can be made for Justin Hall, who shone in the 2014 Mosconi Cup, his form was not especially storng at the US Open from my vantage point. Skyler Woodward is the obvious fifth choice to me. He beat YL Chang, one of the world's ten best players, at the US Open, and, I believe came 17th. That's speaks volumes to me. Oscar Dominguez, despite solid play in a tight loss against Ekonomopoulos, did not cash at the US Open, and likely played his way out of consideration.

Let's see if Mark Wilson goes young or not. A team of SVB, Corey, Dechaine, Bergman and Woodward would actually have a shot to win and would help build the pedigree of Team USA for the future. Wilson's skill in bringing along young players is rightly celebrated, and if he goes young, we'll be in pretty good shape in December.
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agree completely......hall struggled badly and barely beat steve moore....no offense to moore but he isn't a top tier player......his hand shakes something unreal and has problems finishing matches off
 
kagewest said:
So your saying our caption is going to pick players based on a points list where you finished 30th place in a tournament and you got points to decide the 2 captions picks. Hell just throw darts blind. Same thing.
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who is caption of the team this year? mark right?:yikes:
 
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