Mass Shooting At Maine Pool Hall & Bowling Alley

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I remember when it took skill to shoot a gun, one bullet a time. It was about safety training, gun maintenance, how to stand aim, using the sights. Today no skill required, just spray the bullets. I guess we should make hand grenades legal.
It's still one bullet at a time. You don't get more than 1 bullet per trigger pull and semi autos have been around longer than any of us have been alive. They just look different. It still takes skill to shoot accurately.
 
Still wou;d love to hear some more about this place. The picture is from a story that aired on today's CBS Sunday Morning with Jane Pauley. It was reported that the manager of Schemengees tried to confront the shooter with a butcher knife and he was shot dead.
 

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I was always good with firearms, even before and after the Army - I just never thought the danger/protection balance favored home ownership, and never had a fetish for them. They have their place, but I don't rely on Remington, Smith & Wesson or their marketing arm, the NRA, to tell me what it is.

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What years were you in the service? Where were you deployed as a (cough, cough) paratrooper? Where was basic training? Were you in Viet Nam? When were you discharged? Was this before college or after college? What guns did you shoot and practice with? Did you go to Harvard?

Whatever you think and feel about guns whether rifles, pistols, AR-15's, automatics, sniper rifles, from a personal perspective and for whatever reason is your own thing. But don't go spouting off your liberal anti-gun bullshit on here to those of us who
own guns as if we're all potential whack jobs ready to shoot it up and go on a killing spree and shouldn't own them.
It's none of your god**mn business and you need to STFU.
 
And you think your opinion about what those rights are trumps mine. Welcome to debate.

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It's not just an opinion. It's in writing. It's called the Constitution of the United States. The founding fathers created the Bill of Rightn to insure the rights of the citizens... not the government.

To those that mentioned that the founders didn't envision the advancement of technology, you are sadly mistaken. They seen it as clearly as we can envision how technology will advance beyond what we have today.
 
Correct you if you're wrong. I did. Twice. You either don't know basic rights or you were purposely lying about what they are and then crying about my response and pretending you wanted to actually have a discussion. You're either untruthful or not intelligent enough to have a conversation. Either way, I'm done with you
Correct you if you're wrong. I did. Twice. You either don't know basic rights or you were purposely lying about what they are and then crying about my response and pretending you wanted to actually have a discussion. You're either untruthful or not intelligent enough to have a conversation. Either way, I'm done with you
Yep that’s the way to discuss things abusive and throwing toys out of the pram when coming across a contradictory opinion! Good job we aren’t face to face or you would be pulling your gun out, because you are clearly the well adjusted, sensible person that a license is supposed to be given to. Don’t worry I’m. It expecting a response as you are done with me. Bottom line, he had a weapon that isnt a simple self defence weapon, was mentally unstable, shouldn’t have it but he did. If he didn’t have it we wouldn’t be discussing this and 16 people wouldn’t have been dead!!
 
Wow!
I'm really surprised that an ex paratrooper does not have a firearm for at least home protection.
I'm an ex Marine and I have several weapons on hand.
My father jumped numerous times, high and low altitude, and helicopters. He doesn’t like guns. The ones he brought back, are kept at my home, he won’t have them around.
 
What years were you in the service? Where were you deployed as a (cough, cough) paratrooper? Where was basic training? Were you in Viet Nam? When were you discharged? Was this before college or after college? What guns did you shoot and practice with? Did you go to Harvard?

Whatever you think and feel about guns whether rifles, pistols, AR-15's, automatics, sniper rifles, from a personal perspective and for whatever reason is your own thing. But don't go spouting off your liberal anti-gun bullshit on here to those of us who
own guns as if we're all potential whack jobs ready to shoot it up and go on a killing spree and shouldn't own them.
It's none of your god**mn business and you need to STFU.
Wow, you have now revealed yourself as a complete nut job!
 
Since we're doing politics...

One question I'm not sure of the answer to is:
How would the founders frame the 2nd Amendment if it was written today?

While we still know very little about mental health, we do know more than we did in the 1700's. It's for this reason, that I think a wise writing of a present day 2nd Amendment would include a graduated right, a right that wasn't fully formed until a young citizen was outside of the window where mental health issues first present. Possibly not until their mid 20's. While this change wouldn't have avoided this shooting, it could potentially limit those where a mentally unstable young man fires the bullets.

How would such a change be enforced? I'm not certain but I don't believe that there's nothing we can do. We can only do nothing if both sides continue to draw rigid lines in the sand.
 
I would guess if you were in the service during those years and became a paratrooper, it was at ft Campbell KY.
I was there those years and they really pushed airborne heavily. Some of us were considering it till one day at the range and we were sitting around on a break. Out in the distance they were dropping a bunch of equipment out of planes when I think it was a jeeps parachute just had a streamer and we all saw it come down like a rock.
 
Wow, you have now revealed yourself as a complete nut job!
Glad you think that way. Guess we won't be communicating again. Adios
Btw, if you were more attentive you would have seen that I and a whole bunch of other members here revealed
ourselves as nut jobs over 15 years ago and all throughout. PJ was one of them even before that time.
 
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I would guess if you were in the service during those years and became a paratrooper, it was at ft Campbell KY.
Yes, with the 101st. Also at Fort Bragg (now Fort Liberty), NC with the 82nd.

I was there those years and they really pushed airborne heavily. Some of us were considering it till one day at the range and we were sitting around on a break. Out in the distance they were dropping a bunch of equipment out of planes when I think it was a jeeps parachute just had a streamer and we all saw it come down like a rock.
I saw some heavy equipment drops - scary even when it goes right.

pj
chgo
 
Since we're doing politics...

One question I'm not sure of the answer to is:
How would the founders frame the 2nd Amendment if it was written today?
I don't think any part of the Constitution would be the same, not just the 2nd Amendment. But it all still makes sense in its simplicity. "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It doesn't need caveats and 10,000 "what ifs" or other interpretations.
 
I don't think any part of the Constitution would be the same, not just the 2nd Amendment. But it all still makes sense in its simplicity. "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It doesn't need caveats and 10,000 "what ifs" or other interpretations.

How do you feel about individuals defending themselves with AI and botnets? Cyber warfare has changed other aspects of legal interpretations.
 
Yes, with the 101st. Also at Fort Bragg (now Fort Liberty), NC with the 82nd.


I saw some heavy equipment drops - scary even when it goes right.

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We can disagree on the topic of guns but I, and I assume most, thank you for your service, whenever and wherever it occurred. Not going to go back and find the inappropriate response I saw, but it was out of line to suggest you can't share or have an opinion when, arguably you've earned the right to your opinion more than most. Now, back to disagreeing with you lol
 
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