Koop said:Thanks for that. I love reading these types of stories.
It is funny how things go, but, sometimes you feel very fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time. Some memories are just very precious.
Koop said:Thanks for that. I love reading these types of stories.
huckster said:I think David is a great champion on any table, but I will have to disagree about him never losing. I seen Jose Parica beat Dave on the bar box circa 1997 or 98. It was 15 ahead no less
Matt_24 said:I heard that Chuck Norris beat David Matlock in a 20 ahead set on the barbox, in 10 minutes. He broke and made the 9 on the break twenty times in a row.
bigskyjake said:it was actually 19 in a row, on the twentieth break he made the 3 and his shot on the one was so powerful it went 27 rails pocketing the other balls in order
That's nothin'. This one time at pipe camp..........bigskyjake said:it was actually 19 in a row, on the twentieth break he made the 3 and his shot on the one was so powerful it went 27 rails pocketing the other balls in order
BVal said:That's nothin'. This one time at pipe camp..........
BVal
Keith McCready said:Roosterman, I don't want to cause any friction or anything, but the facts are the facts. David beat me down there in Dallas at Sonny Springer's home. Will Willingham and Weldon Rogers was with me. We blowed about 20-some thousand. We came back to Oklahoma City and played again, a rematch, and I got some of the money back. I believe it as 15 or 16,000.
Then we were over there in Richmond, Kentucky, at the Clyde Childress tournament. We did play one little 5-ahead set. LATER, the next night, Dave and I played a 10-ahead set for $5,000. Big Dean from Atlanta was staking me in this one. That session lasted about an hour, me winning the money.
I have all the respect in the world for his game, and I can actually say that I would call David Matlock my friend. David in my opinion, when he gets rolling, is probably the best bar table player that I've seen when it comes to gears. He had those gears. That's what separates a good player and a player extraordinaire.
Derek said:It seems that the problem with these type of threads is there really isn't anything to "hang your hat" on when it comes to who is great and who is greater and who is the greatest. There is no Super Bowl of pool where we can all sit around and state that guy was really damn good.
- You have a group of professional men's players who can't keep any consistency of a pro league going.
- You have different size tables.
- You have non-US tournaments that claim "world title" such as the Qatar tournament going on right now.
- You have a lot of good US players who never attend, can't afford, or are not invited to those world tourneys.
- You have a bunch of no name killer players who aren't publicly exposed. Not sure about here in the states, but the Philliphines and Taipei would be good examples.
At least the WPBA has their act together. There's no discounting in making a statement that Allison Fisher is one of the best women players ever, if not the best.
For that matter, Europe, Asia-Pacific, and Canada all seem to have their act together for a ranking system of the players.
Based on threads I have read over time, I think it would be a very small percentage of posters that think Dave Matlock is not one of the best barbox players. I don't know Dave and haven't seen him play, but his reputation spread by word of mouth let me know he is one of the best. I think the "best" is too bold of a statement until the men can organize some type of US/world ranking system that can stay established for years, such as golf.
RunoutalloverU said:So there are people on this website with common sense, REP to you for the best post in this thread.
JAM said:I do understand how difficult it is to read false tales.
I have highlighted the posts below that Keith has written on this forum about Dave Matlock.
2003 Question by Instroke: Keith, everyone hears about David Matlock being the best big ball bartable player. Did you two ever lock horns and if so who came out on top?
Response by McCready: We played a couple of times, and it went back and forth, but David never got to play me at my best. And when David was in his prime, he was definitely a bar table specialist...ce
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Derek said:It seems that the problem with these type of threads is there really isn't anything to "hang your hat" on when it comes to who is great and who is greater and who is the greatest. There is no Super Bowl of pool where we can all sit around and state that guy was really damn good.
- You have a group of professional men's players who can't keep any consistency of a pro league going.
- You have different size tables.
- You have non-US tournaments that claim "world title" such as the Qatar tournament going on right now.
- You have a lot of good US players who never attend, can't afford, or are not invited to those world tourneys.
- You have a bunch of no name killer players who aren't publicly exposed. Not sure about here in the states, but the Philliphines and Taipei would be good examples.
At least the WPBA has their act together. There's no discounting in making a statement that Allison Fisher is one of the best women players ever, if not the best.
For that matter, Europe, Asia-Pacific, and Canada all seem to have their act together for a ranking system of the players.
Based on threads I have read over time, I think it would be a very small percentage of posters that think Dave Matlock is not one of the best barbox players. I don't know Dave and haven't seen him play, but his reputation spread by word of mouth let me know he is one of the best. I think the "best" is too bold of a statement until the men can organize some type of US/world ranking system that can stay established for years, such as golf.
Being the best at pool is much more subjective then being the best at golf or other sports. Show me a list of David's accomplishments againt all the other best players in the world and then maybe we can call him THE best. Until then he is ONE of The best.roosterman said:Why do you think saying your the best is to bold of a statement,are saying no ones the best at anything.
JAM said:I do understand how difficult it is to read false tales.
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Response by McCready: We played a couple times. I beat him, he beat me. Dave is a very good bar table player, one of the better ones that I ran across. We played 10-ahead both sets. He won one, and I won one.
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Keith McCready said:Roosterman, I don't want to cause any friction or anything, but the facts are the facts. David beat me down there in Dallas at Sonny Springer's home. Will Willingham and Weldon Rogers was with me. We blowed about 20-some thousand. We came back to Oklahoma City and played again, a rematch, and I got some of the money back. I believe it as 15 or 16,000.
Then we were over there in Richmond, Kentucky, at the Clyde Childress tournament. We did play one little 5-ahead set. LATER, the next night, Dave and I played a 10-ahead set for $5,000. Big Dean from Atlanta was staking me in this one. That session lasted about an hour, me winning the money.
I have all the respect in the world for his game, and I can actually say that I would call David Matlock my friend. David in my opinion, when he gets rolling, is probably the best bar table player that I've seen when it comes to gears. He had those gears. That's what separates a good player and a player extraordinaire.
Derek said:I don't think the money matches prove much either unless he was playing straight up. Taking into consideration money matches where a spot was provided tells me the player wasn't the same caliber as Dave. While money matches may show a player's caliber for turning on another gear, I think tournaments are the true test where you play multiple opponents straight up. And even then, you had better win a lot of tournaments if you want to be the best, i.e. Tiger Woods or Roger Federer.