Measle Ball - Why bigger?

rackem said:
Come on are you trying to tell us bowling lanes, baseball parks, basketball courts and other sport venues are all the same?.
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Good point. Bowling alleys often have lanes side by side that have different characteristics. Are there any two MLB parks that have the same distances to the fences, and the same fence height? NFL has natural grass and turf. NASCAR is at a different track every week. Same for the PGA, and to make it tougher, they move the cups to different places on the green every day. I think it would be difficult to name any sport where players compete under identical conditions every week.

The one who adjusts to the equipment first is quite often the winner.

Steve
 
This has been brought up before, so......

I took my BRAND NEW Aramith measle cue ball and measured and weighed it.

It was exactly the same size and weight as my 3 sets of Centennials.

Russ.....
 
I just measured my Aramath Measle ball and several of my Centennials. They are all within a few ten thousandths. I have used them for at least three years.
 
dirtypool40 said:
I pulled my balls out the other day, and I was amazed how much bigger it appears than other balls.

Doesn't make any sense to me, why isn't it the same size?
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:D sorry had to misquote you and use the perfect line, "That's what she said"
 
Would the balls happen to be bar table balls. I think they could be 2 1/8 dia vs 2/14 on the measles.
 
Majic said:
Would the balls happen to be bar table balls. I think they could be 2 1/8 dia vs 2/14 on the measles.
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2 1/8 is the size of Snooker balls, a lot smaller than 2 1/4 pool balls. Very noticeable. I've never heard that bar tables balls were smaller, used to be the cue ball was bigger.
 
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pooltchr said:
Good point. Bowling alleys often have lanes side by side that have different characteristics. Are there any two MLB parks that have the same distances to the fences, and the same fence height? NFL has natural grass and turf. NASCAR is at a different track every week. Same for the PGA, and to make it tougher, they move the cups to different places on the green every day. I think it would be difficult to name any sport where players compete under identical conditions every week.

The one who adjusts to the equipment first is quite often the winner.

Steve
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Hockey, Tennis(players can choose the surface they like and not play the rest), class sailing there must be others i can't think of

I like the strict equipment regulations of some sports such as hockey and sailing.
 
All balls wear down over time. The cue ball the fastest. 1-8 the next fastest and 9-15 maintain their size the best. Just according to the amount of play.

99% of the people that frequent pool halls would not notice this so balls are not replaced as quickly as pool regulars might expect. The cue balls usually get replaced on a regular basis but all the others just until the set needs to be upgraded.

So if you buy a new measles ball with an older set...its normal for it to be larger.
 
Oversized Measles Ball

What are the manufacturing tolerances and "out of spheroid" acceptabilities for the Measles cue ball and others?

What are the weight tolerances?

Surface finish tolerances for new and used balls?


Perhaps if the BCA would publish some recommended practices for discarding and destruction to avoid future use for badly worn balls I could get the local pool hall to pony up some dust for a ball replacement program.

Does the BCA and others have tolerance requirements that are sufficient for manufacturing of consistently quality equipment?

(I might actually be a good player, but old "spots" is throwing my game off.)


Do you have any way to measure your measles and other balls to draw some comparisons?


I definitely feel like when balls have pitting like the "sea of tranquility" that I might be a little better than the equipment allows. (although I might be worse)
 
I've never came across an undersized bar cue ball, only the oversized 2 3/8" cue ball.

This is what BCA rule book has to say about balls

Balls
All balls will have a diameter of 2¼” ± .005”. The weight of the balls will be between 5½ and 6 ounces, but all object balls used in any match must be of equal weight. Slight variations in the weight of the cue ball may occur depending on the type of the cue ball.

http://www.playbca.com/Downloads/Rulebook/CompleteRulebook/tabid/372/Default.aspx
 
My play balls:
7 are 2.250
3 are 2.251
2 are 2.252
3 are 2.253
white cue is 2.252
red dot cue is 2.251 :: however with my 4 digit micrometer the red dots are 0.0002 higher than the white majority.
 
KoolKat9Lives said:
One way to measure in this instance, is to line up the measle CB between 2 object balls, all balls separated by a couple inches. Then put the straight edge of a rack on top of the balls, and you'll quickly notice any difference in circumference.

Of course if you happen to tote an electronic digital caliper in your pocket protector, that would be really cool. ;)
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I ran right in and tried this (with Centenials) and, sure enough, it IS slightly bigger.
 
pooltchr said:
Good point. Bowling alleys often have lanes side by side that have different characteristics. Are there any two MLB parks that have the same distances to the fences, and the same fence height? NFL has natural grass and turf. NASCAR is at a different track every week. Same for the PGA, and to make it tougher, they move the cups to different places on the green every day. I think it would be difficult to name any sport where players compete under identical conditions every week.

The one who adjusts to the equipment first is quite often the winner.

Steve
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However, the equipment doesn't change. The equipment is standard based on rules and testing.
 
NewStroke said:
I never noticed. Are you sure it's bigger?
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yep the measle ball is bigger for sure. the other day i was at the pool hall and some guy with a cuetac lectured me on why i shouldn't have brought my own cue ball. he insisted that i should use the measle ball that the pool hall provided
 
AuntyDan said:
There are three inter-related problems here:

3) In conjunction with #2 the manufacturers (Primarily Saluc of course) have played havoc with their own customers by apparently changing manufacturing methods and/or materials without changing the names of the products or notifying customers. For example there are at least 2 distinctly different materials the Pro Cup "measles" cue ball have been made from (A bright white low-gloss finish and a cream/yellow deep-gloss finish) and yet they have been sold with exactly the same packaging and product name. In combination with #1 and known imitations in the marketplace makes it almost imposiible to say one specific make/model of cue ball will always be bigger/smaller/lighter/heavier/livelier/deader than another at present. :-(
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Very true, Dan.

Unfortunately, I have the measles ball that is bright white with a low-gloss finish. :frown:

Its coefficient of restitution (collision elasticity... how high it bounces when dropped onto a solid surface) is nowhere near that of the rest of my Aramith Pro set. And that is the reason that I don't play with it.
 
petticasey said:
Hockey, Tennis(players can choose the surface they like and not play the rest), class sailing there must be others i can't think of

I like the strict equipment regulations of some sports such as hockey and sailing.
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Sailing?

So who has the responsibility to ensure that all parts of all
oceans are the same?

Don't even get me started on the subject of weather control.

Dale
 
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