Message from Allen Hopkins

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NOTE: Allen personally asked me to post this to AZ Billiards - as to get his message out asap (he doesn't want to setup an AZB account). This message is only directed to professional players - and he encourages all pros to e-mail him at his address below with comments.


To All IPT Players:

Please calm down and give KT a chance. At the first chance, I'm hearing talk about lawsuits. Why not talk about what we can do to help KT make this tour successful? He still has paid more money to professional players than any other promoter or organization ever.

I believe he was a little unlucky because of the government banning gambling on the Internet. If his intentions were not to pay us at all, he wouldn't even pay a million-dollar prize fund. Before KT came around, we never played for this amount of money before. It's not all his fault anyways, if the players were organized - we would not be in this situation.

I believe for any hope of pro players making serious money on a televised tour, we need to stick together and support KT and the IPT for the future of professional pool.

Regards,

Allen Hopkins
Professional Pool Player
allen.hopkins@hotmail.com
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
NOTE: Allen personally asked me to post this to AZ Billiards - as to get his message out asap (he doesn't want to setup an AZB account). This message is only directed to professional players - and he encourages all pros to e-mail him at his address below with comments.


To All IPT Players:

Please calm down and give KT a chance. At the first chance, I'm hearing talk about lawsuits. Why not talk about what we can do to help KT make this tour successful? He still has paid more money to professional players than any other promoter or organization ever.

I believe he was a little unlucky because of the government banning gambling on the Internet. If his intentions were not to pay us at all, he wouldn't even pay a million-dollar prize fund. Before KT came around, we never played for this amount of money before. It's not all his fault anyways, if the players were organized - we would not be in this situation.

I believe for any hope of pro players making serious money on a televised tour, we need to stick together and support KT and the IPT for the future of professional pool.

Regards,

Allen Hopkins
Professional Pool Player
allen.hopkins@hotmail.com
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He will pay, maybe, the million because,

1. It gets him out from under for 33 cents on the dollar.
2. He still has the rights to all the footage from the tournament and to market it, it would be easier if there is some kind of settlement and no dark cloud hanging over it.
3. He walks away although a little tarnished, not completely blackballed by everyone in the pool industry and he will be making money off what ever they have already produced for years to come. He will in the long run probably lose nothing in fact make money and time has a way of twisting the truth.

Five years from now when he is still finding ways to make money off what was the IPT he will paint himself as a great guy, the man who tried to save pool. He will recreate himself into a billiard icon and people will buy it as well as the DVD's. They will be cut and recut in every way possible, .I.E. "Highlights of the HOFer's" and so forth.
 
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Just forget about all KT's lies and take it or leave it attitude. I don't think so. Johnnyt
 
I have totally lost whatever respect I had for Allen Hopkins. It's obvious he has not kept up with the stream of lies coming from the IPT. He's acting just like some of those Hollywood stars now.

He's uninformed as to what has really been going on, but decides to open his mouth and spout off anyways.

Russ
 
SpiderWebComm said:
NOTE: Allen personally asked me to post this to AZ Billiards - as to get his message out asap (he doesn't want to setup an AZB account). This message is only directed to professional players - and he encourages all pros to e-mail him at his address below with comments.


To All IPT Players:

Please calm down and give KT a chance. At the first chance, I'm hearing talk about lawsuits. Why not talk about what we can do to help KT make this tour successful? He still has paid more money to professional players than any other promoter or organization ever.

I believe he was a little unlucky because of the government banning gambling on the Internet. If his intentions were not to pay us at all, he wouldn't even pay a million-dollar prize fund. Before KT came around, we never played for this amount of money before. It's not all his fault anyways, if the players were organized - we would not be in this situation.

I believe for any hope of pro players making serious money on a televised tour, we need to stick together and support KT and the IPT for the future of professional pool.

Regards,

Allen Hopkins
Professional Pool Player
allen.hopkins@hotmail.com
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Allen refuses to take the five minutes of time to set up an account at AZ; contacts you, who have a vested interest in the IPT, to post on his behalf: tells the players that it's not KT's responsibility and it is the players who are at fault. Then asks them to accept KT's offer and give up their right to pursue legal remedies.

Allen just lost tons of credibility as far as I'm concerned.

Jim
 
First of all, Allen is all-but computer illiterate for your info - which is why he didn't. I think his intention is to preserve the tour by not suing (since $1M payouts are better than going back to $2000 first place tourneys). For that reason alone, he wanted to communicate with the pros directly - not fight it out w/ non-tour, non-playing individuals whos livelihood is not affected by what's going on (i.e. many of the railbirds on here).

He's been TOTALLY up-to-speed with everything - and probably knows more than anyone reading this forum. So to say he's just now poking out not knowing anything is laughable, but everyone has their non-knowing opinions.

Don't yell at me - I'm just the messenger. If you think Allen is out of line, e-mail him and tell him all about it.
 
now thats a strange response from allen . i would agree that he has done alot for pool as long as he payed the players in full and continued the tour . and maybe even paid 3 payments of the full prize payout of 3.000.000 . but to insult the players and offer 1/3 of a 1,000,000 prize fund and continue the tour is just so unbielevably disrespectfull there are no words . it would seem it would have been better to not pay the players and close up shop than to do this .

but if he only pays the players 1/3 and closes shop he realy only hurt the sport and the players . i think many players even top players will eventualy quit because of all this . and what about the qualifiers ? i was going to play last week but wanted to see what happened this week . because us qualifiers were in a tough spot . because some of us were waiting to see what happened with all this . but it kept stretching out to far and if we waited to long the ten weeks would run out . so many were forced to play or be shut out in dec.12-17 tour card tourny .

and even now there are 3 qualifiers left and if they say the tour will continue what does a person do dont play in them and get shut out if it happens to go next year ? or do we hope that there will be a tour next year and pay 2000.00 ? tough decision for some . but since they are down sizing prize money now and obviously next year and that probaly means no 100,000 guarantee then the qualifiers mean nothing and were are out 2000.00 .
the only reason we would play the qualifiers is because of the 100,000 promise .

if this is the case then tell alan to tell him to help us out by stoping remainig qualifiers till they get things figured out . its not fair to those who may not read this forum and those that do.

i find it strange that allen h. would not want to create an account if this is so important to him . hmm mark tadd
 
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Mark - read my post above. He doesn't know how to setup an AZB account, and I didn't feel like explaining it. E-mail him - I'm sure he'd like to talk to you.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Mark - read my post above. He doesn't know how to setup an AZB account, and I didn't feel like explaining it. E-mail him - I'm sure he'd like to talk to you.
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Your business interests are very obvious. Why else would become involved as a advocate for KT, or the IPT? Allen's are more elusive.

Why would any ethical person lend support to, and put more trust in a person of KT's low character? He has already shown what he is capable of.

It's the player's that are the victims here, no one else!

Jim
 
SpiderWebComm said:
First of all, Allen is all-but computer illiterate for your info - which is why he didn't. I think his intention is to preserve the tour by not suing (since $1M payouts are better than going back to $2000 first place tourneys). For that reason alone, he wanted to communicate with the pros directly - not fight it out w/ non-tour, non-playing individuals whos livelihood is not affected by what's going on (i.e. many of the railbirds on here).

He's been TOTALLY up-to-speed with everything - and probably knows more than anyone reading this forum. So to say he's just now poking out not knowing anything is laughable, but everyone has their non-knowing opinions.

Don't yell at me - I'm just the messenger. If you think Allen is out of line, e-mail him and tell him all about it.
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He asked a question, why would he pay out the million? I answered it, Kevin will come out of this smelling like a rose and make money. The payment of the million does not mean the IPT still exists, but preserves the integrity of the tournament he still is going to market, I would think to Verses, as well as do his deal with you in the future.

Kevin will pay the million, if he does, because it is in his best interest to do so and no other reason. There should be nothing else read into it. Allen has a skewed logic. Allen thinks there are still going to be more tournaments and cash handed out if every body just kisses Kevin's ass. I would hope the players have a little more self respect then that.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Mark - read my post above. He doesn't know how to setup an AZB account, and I didn't feel like explaining it. E-mail him - I'm sure he'd like to talk to you.
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Allen ain't stupid, never has been never will be. NOW got his hand in the cookie jar "slap". Saying he doesn't know how to set up and account sounds absurd. The effort and knowlege it took for him to put together his expo, is way more difficult that your above statement. I'm insulted by his statement.
 
1. AH is basing this on the assumption that there is going to be an IPT. Meanwhile the people making the phone calls to the players are admitting that they don't even know if they're going to have a job in the next two weeks. (absolute fact this has been said to some players)

2. Is AH saying pro pool has no shot at a televised tour without KT?

3. Is KT the "natural cure" for pool? Honestly, we all know natural cures is a quick money making scam. Guess thats what KT is too.

3. Do not ask us (this is coming from an IPT player on the phone right now)not to respond on this forum when you put this out here on the forum. That's like saying listen to my point of view only. If AH didn't want responses made, he shouldn't have put his thoughts out here. He should've simply posted his email address and be done with it.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
NOTE: Allen personally asked me to post this to AZ Billiards - as to get his message out asap (he doesn't want to setup an AZB account). This message is only directed to professional players - and he encourages all pros to e-mail him at his address below with comments.


To All IPT Players:

Please calm down and give KT a chance. At the first chance, I'm hearing talk about lawsuits. Why not talk about what we can do to help KT make this tour successful? He still has paid more money to professional players than any other promoter or organization ever.

I believe he was a little unlucky because of the government banning gambling on the Internet. If his intentions were not to pay us at all, he wouldn't even pay a million-dollar prize fund. Before KT came around, we never played for this amount of money before. It's not all his fault anyways, if the players were organized - we would not be in this situation.

I believe for any hope of pro players making serious money on a televised tour, we need to stick together and support KT and the IPT for the future of professional pool.

Regards,

Allen Hopkins
Professional Pool Player
allen.hopkins@hotmail.com
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Spider....I understand that you are only posting this for Allen Hopkins. I understand about him not wanting to go thru the time and effort to open an az account when he is as you put it. Computer illiterate. But how can he make a post like this? I believe that there must be a carrot dangling in his face by either KT/IPT or his good friend Mike Sigel. What has he been promised by them for speaking out and defending them this way? With Allen being the smart and capable business man that he is, there is no other explanation....Allen being a promoter coming out like this and defending the likes of KT and company is really mind boggling. No i am not a player and have been pretty much trying to stay out of the discussion. And like others that have posted here i have also lost alot of respect for him.....well, that is just my $.02 worth................mike
 
I don't think waiting around for KT to pay the players is a good idea, which is basically what Allen was saying. The players waited with patience for quite some time and it has became painfully obvious that the players and the pool industry has to take action if they plan on ever getting paid in full from KT.
 
im thinking the ipt could be done....i e-mailed deno over 2 weeks ago so i could buy a dvd from them and i have gotten no response to this day....
 
SpiderWebComm said:
NOTE: Allen personally asked me to post this to AZ Billiards - as to get his message out asap (he doesn't want to setup an AZB account). This message is only directed to professional players - and he encourages all pros to e-mail him at his address below with comments.


To All IPT Players:

Please calm down and give KT a chance. At the first chance, I'm hearing talk about lawsuits. Why not talk about what we can do to help KT make this tour successful? He still has paid more money to professional players than any other promoter or organization ever.

I believe he was a little unlucky because of the government banning gambling on the Internet. If his intentions were not to pay us at all, he wouldn't even pay a million-dollar prize fund. Before KT came around, we never played for this amount of money before. It's not all his fault anyways, if the players were organized - we would not be in this situation.

I believe for any hope of pro players making serious money on a televised tour, we need to stick together and support KT and the IPT for the future of professional pool.

Regards,

Allen Hopkins
Professional Pool Player
allen.hopkins@hotmail.com
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Allen could have called the players to convey this message himself. He elected to become a spokesperson for KT and the IPT; therefore, he MUST have a vested interest.

Please let Allen know that KT has bull$shitted him also with the "government banning gambling on the Internet" statements.

Now Allen must take the "heat" from wherever it is coming from.
 
Ah

If AH can believe and promote "Speed Pool" with a straight face, I can understand how he can support K-Doh. If they would only have used that "slow knap cloth" like K-Doh recommends, they wouldn't have to run so fast. As far as I'm concerned
K-Doh is definitely behind the 8 ball, the only way out, pay up.
 
Rodney said:
All of what KT said after the last tourny was a lie, or a stall tactic. Why would anyone believe him now????
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Rodney, you hit the nail right on the head. He would of shown some back-bone if he came out with the truth right away, but his past depicts that is not his style. The only thing that he can do at this point is save his own ass. As of now, can't think of a soul who would willingly support him in ANY billiard venture. At this point turn around is fair play. Take the money when its all said an done, smile, treat him like he's treated you, and tell him you'll see him at the next event.
 
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