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What do yall think? A marketing tactic or actually true??
What do yall think? A marketing tactic or actually true??
Meucci going back to old shafts?
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Good choice for Meucci (if its true). Lots of whip in them, you could put alot of juice on the cue ball. Although the ferrules were very thin which made them easy to crack, a pad under the tip helped this problem. I always liked the longer ferrules for aiming.
Question: Does Meucci sponsor any players on tour? Just curious..
Question: Does Meucci sponsor any players on tour? Just curious..
Smart move IMHO. I have either a late 70's or early 80's Sneaky Pete and feel it has a great hit. A friend like the hit of my stick so much he hunted the internet to find a used Mucci Sneaky Pete from the same era. After over $ 400.00 with shipping his Cue hits the same as mine. BTW Laying the sticks side by side, his points are higher on his cue than mine.
I bought a Black dot Mucci back in 04 to keep up with the Jones in my league. Thinking it would have the same or similar hit I was very disappointed with the newer Mucci. It was a nice looking stick but I soon traded it. Interesting enough I followed that stick as it was traded several times before losing track of it. Most Mucci owner I know who are amateur A players or strong B players are now using OB shafts on their Mucci butts.
I bought a Black dot Mucci back in 04 to keep up with the Jones in my league. Thinking it would have the same or similar hit I was very disappointed with the newer Mucci. It was a nice looking stick but I soon traded it. Interesting enough I followed that stick as it was traded several times before losing track of it. Most Mucci owner I know who are amateur A players or strong B players are now using OB shafts on their Mucci butts.
Where and how are Meucci cues made now? How can they reproduce the same hit when the cues are now so shoddily produced, they literally fall apart from many reports I've read, some right here on this forum.
Meucci has lost nearly all credibility with serious players.
Meucci has lost nearly all credibility with serious players.
My wife still plays with her Original Oldie 1- great stick. Loaned my meucci sneaky to a friend twenty five years ago, haven't seen either since. One great stick with the old style shafts, good move if it is true. I would pick one up for old times sake if it is true.
I just bought a Black Dot shaft for my 92 Meucci, and I actually like how it hits. But I thought the shaft was supposed to be 12.75MM, mine came as 12.6MM, and I don't like how thin it feels. I got it off eBay, so maybe I got some reject shaft. It plays well, and gives the cueball a ton of spin though.
One of my original shafts has some warp to it, and one of the shafts is pretty straight.
Oh, I don't know why you would have to pay extra, for a shaft that doesn't have their latest technology.
One of my original shafts has some warp to it, and one of the shafts is pretty straight.
Oh, I don't know why you would have to pay extra, for a shaft that doesn't have their latest technology.
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It's not the "the same taper, balance, hit and performance of the old “Meucci Original” cues " that make those cues hit good. It was the quality of the shaft wood he used then. The wood they have used for the past 15+ years is too soft. They need to use Northern slow growth Maple if they want that kind of hit again.....
they were popular cuz they made it easy...
meucci never made a great pool cue, the butts on the originals and early models were "ok". The reason meucci got popular was because of that whippy shaft that could draw so well (it will draw for you) , and the type of cloth we played on back then was much slower than 860. The shaft worked for english for not so skilled players like jump cues work. With the massive ammount of deflection I bet money your not gonna find pro number one today using one of them....unless its got an aftermarket shaft on it. If you like their designs, they make butts ok and they hit just fine...but they have never made a shaft that was worth anything more than firewood. Same BS as the red dot shaft, its not special dude. The dot just alines the grain vertically, the black dot is just a laminated version of the same thing! That dot has been around for over 50yrs and bob meucci did not invent anything special with it. Bob has done alot for the cue industry tho, helping many get started and developing much equipment. They were not meant and never will be meant to be in the class of a good custom cue. I have hit with cues that bob meucci personally made, the shafts were a little thicker but they played pretty well...there is a meucci, then theres a meucci, and then theres a meucci if you know what i mean.
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You also got those very long ferrules which causes alot of deflection, I did have an original gambler and a original sneaky pete. I cut the shaft down 1 inch on the sneaky which took some of the whip away...and it did play pretty sweet what I liked about it the most was if you put it on a rack you could tell it was a custom by the taper, but you couldn't tell from anything else.
meucci never made a great pool cue, the butts on the originals and early models were "ok". The reason meucci got popular was because of that whippy shaft that could draw so well (it will draw for you) , and the type of cloth we played on back then was much slower than 860. The shaft worked for english for not so skilled players like jump cues work. With the massive ammount of deflection I bet money your not gonna find pro number one today using one of them....unless its got an aftermarket shaft on it. If you like their designs, they make butts ok and they hit just fine...but they have never made a shaft that was worth anything more than firewood. Same BS as the red dot shaft, its not special dude. The dot just alines the grain vertically, the black dot is just a laminated version of the same thing! That dot has been around for over 50yrs and bob meucci did not invent anything special with it. Bob has done alot for the cue industry tho, helping many get started and developing much equipment. They were not meant and never will be meant to be in the class of a good custom cue. I have hit with cues that bob meucci personally made, the shafts were a little thicker but they played pretty well...there is a meucci, then theres a meucci, and then theres a meucci if you know what i mean.
Grey Ghost
You also got those very long ferrules which causes alot of deflection, I did have an original gambler and a original sneaky pete. I cut the shaft down 1 inch on the sneaky which took some of the whip away...and it did play pretty sweet what I liked about it the most was if you put it on a rack you could tell it was a custom by the taper, but you couldn't tell from anything else.
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It has me wondering. I'd like to find someone thats hit with the new "old style" shafts. I've hit with a pre dot, and both dotted shafts and the dotted shafts are trash compared to the pre dot hit.
old shafts,wellin 1986 or so i used to buy meucci cues,i ordered 17 one day,every one was warped,rolled like a banana,lop lop lop.They would not replace the shafts the same day i opened the box. a short while ago I bought a few sneaky petes same problem...
You can buy one at your own peril. This is not a knock,I recomend them for anyone who isn't concerned with a straight shaft
You can buy one at your own peril. This is not a knock,I recomend them for anyone who isn't concerned with a straight shaft
It is the best thing they can do. I haven't hit with a Meucci that feels as good as they did in the mid 90s and earlier.
I have hit with a few Meucci's, but they were all red dot and black dot. But, if what everyone says that the original designed shafts are being offered and from what I have read, then there is the posibility of being able to apply a great deal more spin due to the high deflection, but they you have to deal with squirt. Wouldn't that throw off a lot of people's games unless that's what you're used to?
I'm gonna respectfully disagree on that one. ALOT of the old 70's and early 80's Meucci shafts I've hit with are great - tight grain clear quality wood with a solid hit and a very good taper - many will attest to that. I will agree with you that the new ones are embarassingly poorly put together. However, if the shafts were as whippy as you say, wouldn't that lend itself to less deflection since the shaft is getting out of the way of the cue ball instead of the shaft pushing the CB off its natural line?
Good move on their part, but they need to up their quality control on pretty much every aspect of the butt end of their cues to change their image.
I looked at a Meucci someone was selling a few months back that was a few years old and I can honestly tell you that I would not accept money for it if I were selling it. Every aspect of the cue was awful. It actually amazed me that it was a Meucci since I haven't actually looked at one in years.
I looked at a Meucci someone was selling a few months back that was a few years old and I can honestly tell you that I would not accept money for it if I were selling it. Every aspect of the cue was awful. It actually amazed me that it was a Meucci since I haven't actually looked at one in years.
I think maybe the new ones are just mass produced cues without much care or character. I really think good cues are made from people who put their time and passion to make the cue as perfect as they can, and have patience to age the wood and not skip any steps or cut any corners.
The new Meucci's are just mass produced cues. I think they might make a limited number of cues a year that are handcrafted well, but I don't think they treat the wood correctly like the master cue makers.
A master cue maker will not rush making a cue to make you happy, the cue will be ready when he thinks it's to his quality standards. Many cue makers won't sell a substandard cue because it has his name on it.
I'm gonna respectfully disagree on that one. ALOT of the old 70's and early 80's Meucci shafts I've hit with are great - tight grain clear quality wood with a solid hit and a very good taper - many will attest to that. I will agree with you that the new ones are embarassingly poorly put together. However, if the shafts were as whippy as you say, wouldn't that lend itself to less deflection since the shaft is getting out of the way of the cue ball instead of the shaft pushing the CB off its natural line?
ummmhhhhh your mixing up your terms of deflection and throw. Balls get thrown, shafts deflect
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Someone go tell Cliff Joyner he isn't a pro.
As for the marketing strategy it is brilliant. Everything old is new again. Doesn't matter what taper you put on sh!tty shaft though it is still a sh!tty shaft.