Miscuing with Kamui chalk...0.98

softshot said:
you dropped $30 on chalk .. and $0 on your piss poor stroke... but I'M the one who doesn't get it????

if your game is dependent on gear. you don't have much of a game..

have a nice day banger
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Troll...I have NO game and you have the best... OK I have that part... just curious as to why post on my thread when you have "0" input about the chalk? Do you even use it?

If you would read all of my posts, you will see that I understand miscuing is part of the game and happens.I'm not looking for an excuse. I shot the shots.. It's my fault. I do wonder if the chalks properties change and it causes me and others to possibly miscue more often.
 
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Don't get upset with my input Acuraheel, this is just a theory and may not have any basis in fact.

Kamui chalk advertises less chalking required, it is reinforced by many players, you try it and find that it works as stated. Great.

Now a respected player and friend tells you that he's miscuing, possibly, because of a worn down cube of Kamui. You have a worn down cube of Kamui and you start miscuing.

Maybe the power of suggestion....both times. Just maybe.

J
 
AcuraHeel said:
Let me start out by saying that I have been huge fan of Kamui chalk. I have defended the cost.I hadn't had any issues with miscuing since my first cube a few years ago. I'm now on my second cube.I had my other stolen after a few month of use. It had been well worth the money..IMO. Let's fast forward to the cube being about half way worn down. A friend of mine in the area (AA ranked player)said that he had issues after it got worn down and towards the middle of the cube. He stopped using the chalk. He said that miscuing is happening frequently. It seems like the properties of the chalk have changed and isn't staying on the tip. I hadn't had any issues at all till this past weekend. I was in a tournament and miscued three times on Saturday while using Kamui chalk. Needless to say,I've lost all confidence in the chalk. I will be using Blue Diamond from here on. I'm curious if any others out there have any similar experiences?

FYI..I keep the tip picked,scuffed and in great shape...
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i have been using 0.98 for a year now an have never miscued while using it. i never use a tip pick, matter of fact i do not own a pick. i scuff my tip as needed which is usually once a month.

the cube is only wore down about 1/4 of the way and i just swipe the tip lightly after every shot as part of my psr. this is during matches, i never chalk during practice, guess that is why my cube has lasted so long. i play quite a bit of pool, i play on 4 league teams every week.

i guess i have an unorthadox way of practicing. i never chalk unless i miscue. sometimes i shoot with my breaking stick which has a g 10 tipless ferrule. i just like to push the boundaries or test my limits of what i can and cannot do . you learn from your mistakes:smile:.

yesterday i practiced with a teamate for 1 1/2 hours straight playing 9 ball without chalking before i miscued. when i miscued i was using extreme outside english to avoid scratching on a tough cut shot. i looked at my teamate after miscuing and said i guess its time to chalk.

i keep my cube in a ziplock sandwich bag in my case and have had no problems with it drying out. guess i am lucky so far.
 
This is not the first time I've heard of this happening to someone. It hasn't happened to me, but my chalk is just closing in on 1/2 way...
 
jimmyg said:
Don't get upset with my input Acuraheel, this is just a theory and may not have any basis in fact.

Kamui chalk advertises less chalking required, it is reinforced by many players, you try it and find that it works as stated. Great.

Now a respected player and friend tells you that he's miscuing, possibly, because of a worn down cube of Kamui. You have a worn down cube of Kamui and you start miscuing.

Maybe the power of suggestion....both times. Just maybe.
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I think there may be some validity to this. Even if the chalk is performing worse for some environmental or durability reason (drying out, getting damp, etc.), I would expect the performance to degrade gradually rather than over the course of a week.

It could be some combination of reduced performance and increased awareness that made it seem like it changed overnight.
 
jimmyg said:
Don't get upset with my input Acuraheel, this is just a theory and may not have any basis in fact.

Kamui chalk advertises less chalking required, it is reinforced by many players, you try it and find that it works as stated. Great.

Now a respected player and friend tells you that he's miscuing, possibly, because of a worn down cube of Kamui. You have a worn down cube of Kamui and you start miscuing.

Maybe the power of suggestion....both times. Just maybe.

J
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Jimmy, I understand exactly what you're saying and it's fair. That's why I was curious if this is happening elsewhere. He told me about it awhile ago and I paid it no attention because I hadn't had issues...at all. Saturday was just an oddity and made me wonder if there was something to it
 
lorider said:
i have been using 0.98 for a year now an have never miscued while using it. i never use a tip pick, matter of fact i do not own a pick. i scuff my tip as needed which is usually once a month.

the cube is only wore down about 1/4 of the way and i just swipe the tip lightly after every shot as part of my psr. this is during matches, i never chalk during practice, guess that is why my cube has lasted so long. i play quite a bit of pool, i play on 4 league teams every week.

i guess i have an unorthadox way of practicing. i never chalk unless i miscue. sometimes i shoot with my breaking stick which has a g 10 tipless ferrule. i just like to push the boundaries or test my limits of what i can and cannot do . you learn from your mistakes:smile:.

yesterday i practiced with a teamate for 1 1/2 hours straight playing 9 ball without chalking before i miscued. when i miscued i was using extreme outside english to avoid scratching on a tough cut shot. i looked at my teamate after miscuing and said i guess its time to chalk.

i keep my cube in a ziplock sandwich bag in my case and have had no problems with it drying out. guess i am lucky so far.
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Lorider... exactly... I have played many nights practicing and only chalked up every 4-5 games because of the results in the past. That is why last week was a shocker. I sent John an email at Kamui and asked him for his input
 
Matt said:
I think there may be some validity to this. Even if the chalk is performing worse for some environmental or durability reason (drying out, getting damp, etc.), I would expect the performance to degrade gradually rather than over the course of a week.

It could be some combination of reduced performance and increased awareness that made it seem like it changed overnight.
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Matt... I agree... Maybe this weekend was the start of the degrade? It has to start at some point? The chalk hasn't made my game better or worse. It has helped in miscuing until this weekend. I had a comfort level with using it
 
This whole $30 chalk thing is really silly. If the $30 chalk needed to be kept in a bag or any other special instuctions the company that makes said chalk would tell you when you buy it or hopefully before you buy it.

My wife bought me two cubes of the stuff for xmass and I leave the cube outside under the table cover most of the time. Sometimes it spends 6-8 hours on the rail in FL weather and I just pick it up and start playing. It's not bad chalk, but it's not any better than Master's, Blue Diamond, and a few more brands.The only time I ever miss-cue has nothing to do with the chalk. Anytime I miss-cue its something I did with my stroke. Johnnyt
 
UPDATE...I have been emailing back and forth with John from Kamui today. He has been great to deal with. He wants to get the cube in and take a look at it.
 
It's funny how you chalk 1x / game and when you miscue, the manufacturer wants to examine the chalk for defects.

Maybe you stroked it bad or maybe you should just chalk more than 1x per game?

Gotta give it to Kamui-- they're playing their cards perfectly.

"What, you miscued??? Send your chalk into our Crime Scene Investigation lab for a full chemical and property analysis!"
 
I've miscued with Blue Diamond and Super Professional and just don't use it because of it.


I always go back to my Master.:smile:
 
SpiderWebComm said:
It's funny how you chalk 1x / game and when you miscue, the manufacturer wants to examine the chalk for defects.

Maybe you stroked it bad or maybe you should just chalk more than 1x per game?

Gotta give it to Kamui-- they're playing their cards perfectly.

"What, you miscued??? Send your chalk into our Crime Scene Investigation lab for a full chemical and property analysis!"
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Have you read my posts? I'm not saying I should never miscue. I could have stroked it bad...never said I didn't.I have been chalking this way for close to a year with NO issues. I now have an issue. I'm on AZ seeing if others have had any issues with Kamui chalk after it's being used for awhile. It seems to have happened before to someone else. Why do some of you get on here and just have to be an a$$. I don't get it. Kamui had an issue with their chalk in the past and issued a letter. I'm only here looking to see if it's happening to others.
 
AcuraHeel said:
Have you read my posts? I'm not saying I should never miscue. I could have stroked it bad...never said I didn't.I have been chalking this way for close to a year with NO issues. I now have an issue. I'm on AZ seeing if others have had any issues with Kamui chalk after it's being used for awhile. It seems to have happened before to someone else. Why do some of you get on here and just have to be an a$$. I don't get it. Kamui had an issue with their chalk in the past and issued a letter. I'm only here looking to see if it's happening to others.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM
 
AcuraHeel said:
Kamui had an issue with their chalk in the past and issued a letter. I'm only here looking to see if it's happening to others.
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I haven't had trouble so far, but I am not halfway down my cube yet.

This is a good thread.

I completely understood the point of your thread without the need for an explanation. Some people have trouble reading. Just breathe slowly, and don't click, "Submit Reply".

I'm not going to open my other 0.98 as I now feel that, "Bubbles", (my nickname) will one day be a collectors item that will fetch me BILLIONS of dollars.
 
AcuraHeel said:
Have you read my posts? I'm not saying I should never miscue. I could have stroked it bad...never said I didn't.I have been chalking this way for close to a year with NO issues. I now have an issue. I'm on AZ seeing if others have had any issues with Kamui chalk after it's being used for awhile. It seems to have happened before to someone else. Why do some of you get on here and just have to be an a$$. I don't get it. Kamui had an issue with their chalk in the past and issued a letter. I'm only here looking to see if it's happening to others.
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What qualifies with people having trouble w/ Kamui? Does a miscue mean there's something wrong with the chalk? Is a certain chalk able to guarantee that no miscues will happen while using it? So if people are having trouble with Kamui chalk (i.e. miscues) and the same people miscued with other brands of chalk previously......do you think it's the chalk or the player?

I think it's 100% the player. The chalk is fine. If you miscue, keep chalking more often until you don't miscue. Chalk can't "guarantee" you won't miscue by chalking 1x per game.

I'm not being an ass--- I was being funny with my previous post. However, at the same time, I'm trying give you some basic insight.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
What qualifies with people having trouble w/ Kamui? Does a miscue mean there's something wrong with the chalk? Is a certain chalk able to guarantee that no miscues will happen while using it? So if people are having trouble with Kamui chalk (i.e. miscues) and the same people miscued with other brands of chalk previously......do you think it's the chalk or the player?

I think it's 100% the player. The chalk is fine. If you miscue, keep chalking more often until you don't miscue. Chalk can't "guarantee" you won't miscue by chalking 1x per game.

I'm not being an ass--- I was being funny with my previous post. However, at the same time, I'm trying give you some basic insight.
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I don't know what qualifies people having trouble with Kamui? That's why I posted here to get some insight. I have used it religiously for a long time and can't remember miscuing unless I forget to chalk after a long period. I did this past weekend and just curious if others have seen the same results after the cube is used for a period of time. I don't see why some of you seem so upset about that?

Have you used Kamui chalk? You can definitely chalk good once per game and be fine for many games. Let me rephrase that.. You SHOULD be able to chalk once before each game and be fine. I have shot an APA 9ball race with only chalking once. I had to get 75..other guy had to get 55.. I never miscued once. I know others who have done the same,so it's not that crazy as some of you think that I chalk only once before each match.

This comes back to the original post.. something has changed and I'm just curious if it may be the chalk because others have said the same.
 
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