moisture meter

BHQ

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just wondered, since i have a meter on the way
do they detect readings from nelsonite in the wood???????
how do you know, it's actually moisture rather than that nasty nelsonite?????


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if it's detecting nelsonite, moisture is moisture????
whether it's nelsonite or water????? CORRECT????
does heat make the nelsonite leave the wood sooner???????
 
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Don't know about the detection of nelsonite but I would GUESS no it won't detect Nelsonite.

Nasty Nelsonite..... I gotta dip shafts after I cut Cocobolo to make it smell good again...
 
BHQ said:
just wondered, since i have a meter on the way
do they detect readings from nelsonite in the wood???????
how do you know, it's actually moisture rather than that nasty nelsonite?????


added:
if it's detecting nelsonite, moisture is moisture???? whether it's nelsonite or water?????
does heat make the nelsonite leave the wood sooner???????

If the Nelsonite is still wet in the wood then I'm sure the moisture meter reading will be affected in some way. The Moisture meter just records resistance between two points and determines the moisture content through that. The Nelsonite may make some other type of reading. Nelsonite shouldn't stay wet for very long however. It is very thin, is quickly absorbed by the wood and then the thinners evaporate leaving the chemical resins behind.

What type of meter did you purchase, a pin type or a surface type? I have a Ligomat pin type kit that I bought a few years ago for 300.00 and it works pretty well. I've been thinking about getting another, surface type, to use on flat wood when it first arrives before turning round. Once round, the surface reading meters will no longer work as they will take the readings from the moisture in the air surrounding the wood.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
If the Nelsonite is still wet in the wood then I'm sure the moisture meter reading will be affected in some way. The Moisture meter just records resistance between two points and determines the moisture content through that. The Nelsonite may make some other type of reading. Nelsonite shouldn't stay wet for very long however. It is very thin, is quickly absorbed by the wood and then the thinners evaporate leaving the chemical resins behind.

What type of meter did you purchase, a pin type or a surface type? I have a Ligomat pin type kit that I bought a few years ago for 300.00 and it works pretty well. I've been thinking about getting another, surface type, to use on flat wood when it first arrives before turning round. Once round, the surface reading meters will no longer work as they will take the readings from the moisture in the air surrounding the wood.

Dick
got this cheapie on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280200317633&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=018
might end up being a waste??????????
 
BHQ said:
just wondered, since i have a meter on the way
do they detect readings from nelsonite in the wood???????
how do you know, it's actually moisture rather than that nasty nelsonite?????


added:
if it's detecting nelsonite, moisture is moisture????
whether it's nelsonite or water????? CORRECT????
does heat make the nelsonite leave the wood sooner???????
On very low readings such as 6 or 8% I tested a few meters and I never found one that was very accurate at all. It could be 6%, it could be 16% you won't be sure. You can test a piece of wood by taking a sample and weighing it, then drying it to zero in a microwave oven. Then just do the calculations and you will know exactly what it is and can be pretty sure most of your wood of a similar size stored in the same way for about the same period of time will all be about same.

If you date your wood and store it all in the same room, you just need a test piece you can test from time to time to keep track of what is going on with it. A dehumidified room that is controlled is best. You can build one in a corner of your shop using nothing more then 2x4's and plastic sheeting that is sealed up with a door that seals up good as well. You could go all the way and drywall it and make a nice structure. Something as small as a 6 x 8 foot room will hold a lot of wood. Just some ideas to think about.
 
BHQ said:

I got one of those on ebay last year and it did not work for me. For some reason it keeps showing 2% moisture on all of my woods which is obviously wrong. The seller was easy to deal with though and he replaced the item thinking it was defective but still had the same problem so he ended up refunding my money.
 
hardknox222 said:
I got one of those on ebay last year and it did not work for me. For some reason it keeps showing 2% moisture on all of my woods which is obviously wrong. The seller was easy to deal with though and he replaced the item thinking it was defective but still had the same problem so he ended up refunding my money.
It's a piece of crap.
He did exchange my bad one but the one he sent again was another piece of kaka.
 
"On very low readings such as 6 or 8% I tested a few meters and I never found one that was very accurate at all. It could be 6%, it could be 16% you won't be sure."

wel said,i have always heard that they aren't any that are good enough for accurate low readings.
 
JoeyInCali said:
It's a piece of crap.
He did exchange my bad one but the one he sent again was another piece of kaka.
i guess it will make a nice paper weight huh :rolleyes:
 
Brent.........
As your teacher would tell you........don't waste your money on crap....buy wood instead...
......it's an investment you'll never lose with.



<~~~wondering where your buying your wood from that you have to worry about it being wet..............
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Brent.........
As your teacher would tell you........don't waste your money on crap....buy wood instead...
......it's an investment you'll never lose with.



<~~~wondering where your buying your wood from that you have to worry about it being wet..............
got a big hunk of wenge recently, the guy says it's very old, like maybe 20 years or so, i was just wanting to be able to check for myself.
 
BHQ said:
got a big hunk of wenge recently, the guy says it's very old, like maybe 20 years or so, i was just wanting to be able to check for myself.
Wenge?
Ugly name and uglier to cut. :D
Joey~Hates to work with wenge~
 
JoeyInCali said:
Wenge?
Ugly name and uglier to cut. :D
Joey~Hates to work with wenge~

I made one cue out of it at least 15 years ago and swore I'd never make another. I bet I put on a finish at least 5 times as once it was done white specks would appear in the coarse grain. You can have it. There are to many beautiful woods to use to have to put up with the aggravating ones, especially when they are not pretty.

Dick
 
Smells like chocolate when you cut it. It is a pain to finish as Dick said suckholes!!! :0
 
BHQ said:
got a big hunk of wenge recently, the guy says it's very old, like maybe 20 years or so, i was just wanting to be able to check for myself.

Wenge is one of the most underrated woods for cue building. Just about the same weight as maple and one of the most stable woods you can put in a cue.
Has an excellent tone and fantastic compression strength.
Just cut it up and start using it...you'll know how wet it is as soon as you make your first cut into it on the bandsaw.....let it air out as you put them through the cycle. If they're wet....turn them round, hang 'em up and go on to something else for a couple years.


<~~~don't get in any hurries if your going to use it for a decoration wood....
 
rhncue said:
I made one cue out of it at least 15 years ago and swore I'd never make another. I bet I put on a finish at least 5 times as once it was done white specks would appear in the coarse grain. You can have it. There are to many beautiful woods to use to have to put up with the aggravating ones, especially when they are not pretty.

Dick

Hehehe. :D
It looks like a porcupine who sunbathed too much.:D
 
I got my cheep moisture meter , off E-bay today. It might work OK on soft wood but on a hard wood it measures 0 , on some Redwood burl I know is wet it measures 19 on one and 16 on another. On ebony, rosewood, and several other hanging in shop it measures 0 . I don't trust it, Speaks with forked tounge .
 
Jim Baxter said:
I got my cheep moisture meter , off E-bay today. It might work OK on soft wood but on a hard wood it measures 0 , on some Redwood burl I know is wet it measures 19 on one and 16 on another. On ebony, rosewood, and several other hanging in shop it measures 0 . I don't trust it, Speaks with forked tounge .

The cheaper ones aren't very accurate in the lower ranges, which is the range you need to check wood. Also, pin type meters only measure moisture as far as you stick the pins in, which may be much different than further inside.

They really are a get you pay for type of item. I used to have a really accurate one for my job. It even had a built in thermohygrometer, but it also cost around $500.
 
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