Money lost but unethical Cuemaker found

jay helfert said:
Eddie has a good reputation around Los Angeles and environs. Sounds to me like Eddie conducted his business here in a pretty straightforward manner. The OP got his britches in a bunch when he found out he wasn't Eddie's only valued customer. The OP's statement about wanting some hand holding from his cue maker was when he lost me.



I'm waiting now for a couple of months for a cue made by a well known cue maker, with no inlays. It was a fairly simple job since he had previously prepared blanks. He told me 6-8 weeks on this one and we've gone over that now. One e-mail from him with an update and I'm cool with the process. I will wait patiently by the mailbox until it arrives. :thumbup:
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Everyone chooses to do their own business or build their cues their own way. Good that it worked out fine for you. I told Eddie how I wanted to work, he didn't have any issue with it then.

If you think he has conducted his business in a straightforward manner throughout then you're entitled to your own opinion.

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Agree

klone said:
Why aren't custom cue buyers and cue makers demanding terms in writing???? It would be the best fair way to protect BOTH parties. These stories come up way too often. Heck, I don't even hire a plumber or general contractor unless terms are agreed upon in writing, even for work that's paid only a few hundred dollars!
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You are correct the whole build should start with a written order / time frame and price with both parties signing.
 
fastone371 said:
I am having a hard time understanding why the guy who currently has your blank needs an email from Pete Ohman before forwarding your blank. It is your blank and you can do with it whatever you choose. Personally I would probably go visit the fella with your blank and offer to put it someplace very uncomfortable for him if he does not hand it over immediately. I cant say that I have a problem with the time frame so far if and only if the cue maker has been communicating with you the expected time frame.
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Maybe coz he wants to tell Pete: FYI- look, here are my notes of conversations with this guy, good luck.

Of course, Pete hash probably built a 110x more cues, so I'd imagine his process, materials stock, business policy and customer service skills are far more grown up than cohen's.
 
enyaw said:
Are you saying that if he failed to live up to his promise i can demand that he charges me lesser or gives me extra inlays for free?
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You can plead your case better and you will look better when whining on a public message board. As it is, you just look like an undecisive and terrible customer that nobody would want to deal with. The sentiment of this whole thread is pretty telling. If you have a decent case and the cue maker was genuinely taking advantage of you, other posters will generally be helpful and support you. So far, nobody seems to like you.
 
franko said:
You are correct the whole build should start with a written order / time frame and price with both parties signing.
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I guess both parties should have lawyers, irs agents, and their mothers present, too. It's a cue, they aren't signing a record deal. When there is an issue, it is usually quite apparent who the fault lies with or becomes quite apparent after a few pages on AZB.
 
Masayoshi said:
You can plead your case better and you will look better when whining on a public message board. As it is, you just look like an undecisive and terrible customer that nobody would want to deal with. The sentiment of this whole thread is pretty telling. If you have a decent case and the cue maker was genuinely taking advantage of you, other posters will generally be helpful and support you. So far, nobody seems to like you.
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Evidently you cannot read properly or your brain fails to comprehend information properly even though i clearly pointed out my issue with him to begin with.

I will refer you to the what i posted on top.

If you and other people still continue to miss the crux of the argument being made here then there's nothing more i can say to you people.

Apparently MONEY is the only word that you're able to pick up from it all, and all you're only good at is playing judge and allocating blame.

Since you cannot read my summary i posted earlier, i will paste it here and hopefully you'd be able to understand things better. And perhaps not vote for Trump.

#1 Reason Eddie gave was material cost which i offer to buy after which he didn't talk a single thing about materials. (Why bother talking about material cost if it wasn't truly about it. If it was he'd have gladly sold it to me, probably at a nice profit for himself and be merry)

#2 He claimed he was 2 hours away from Martin when people have told me he was just 20 minutes away.

#3 We have reached an agreement so all of y'all who want to play the judge or jury can carry on to do to humour yourself. But the point here is not how much his time is worth but rather how we reached the end after he kept giving me different reasons to keep the deposit, if he was so sure about one thing he'd have said it and be done with it.

And he threatened to forfeit the blank which i paid for based on something that's out of my control, getting someone to email him which i've said many times that i have tried.

If this is not enough to get through your thick Californian skull, i have no idea what will.
 
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enyaw said:
Evidently you cannot read properly or your brain fails to comprehend information properly even though i clearly pointed out my issue with him to begin with.

I will refer you to the what i posted on top.

If you and other people still continue to miss the crux of the argument being made here then there's nothing more i can say to you people.

Apparently MONEY is the only word that you're able to pick up from it all, and all you're only good at is playing judge and allocating blame.
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MONEY is the measuring stick, that is for sure.

Glad to see you are coming around.

Pete is a fine guy. Hope you are made happy in the end and all this frustration is forgotten in life's rearview morror. Edit- mirror...no idea what morror is, andI hope I never find out.
 
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Black-Balled said:
MONEY is the measuring stick, that is for sure.

Glad to see you are coming around.

Pete is a fine guy. Hope you are made happy in the end and all this frustration is forgotten in life's rearview morror. Edit- mirror...no idea what morror is, andI hope I never find out.
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Evidently everyone here wants to play judge and give their 2cents without taking much effort to understand the issue at hand.
 
enyaw said:
Evidently everyone here wants to play judge and give their 2cents without taking much effort to understand the issue at hand.
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I think people know more about the matter than you think.

We've seen it hundreds of times before.

As they say: the story is the same but the details change.
 
Black-Balled said:
I think people know more about the matter than you think.

We've seen it hundreds of times before.

As they say: the story is the same but the details change.
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I'm sure if they actually took the time to read and think it through, instead of thinking who is right or wrong but the process of how things were done. They'd be able to understand things better. But hey i might be asking for too much.

I guess that's why the jury system is flawed.
 
The people you asked about the time/distance, do they live here?

Here in Southern California a 20 mile drive can take 2 hours depends on the time and
day of the week.

You got to live here to believe it.
 
hamandeggers said:
The people you asked about the time/distance, do they live here?

Here in Southern California a 20 mile drive can take 2 hours depends on the time and
day of the week.

You got to live here to believe it.
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Yup they live there.
 
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poolhustler said:
I personally don't are about your story or hardship unless you:

1. Tell everyone who the cue maker is.

2. Let the cue maker tell his side of the story.

I have heard too many stories like this one and its like a broken record.

Yes cue makers can be difficult to deal with and there are some real bad ones. There are also time wasting, panty wasting customers ... who are a pain in the ass. Not saying that you are, just saying we don't know the whole story.
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His very 1st sentence tells you who the cuemaker is. Did you not read that ???
 
ipoppa33 said:
I guess you aren't going to tell us who the cuemaker is, but you want people to know about cuemakers with bad reviews?!?!?
There is a simple solution- have him mail the blank to you and you send it to Pete, costs you a little more in time and money but you get your blank and 1/2 the deposit back.

Good luck.
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Who the cuemaker is? Did you read the OP's 1st sentence?
 
No my first question was did your friends live in the So Cal area and my second question is does the OP live in an area with traffic like So Cal.

Please forgive me if I can't read
 
enyaw said:
I'm sure if they actually took the time to read and think it through, instead of thinking who is right or wrong but the process of how things were done. They'd be able to understand things better. But hey i might be asking for too much.

I guess that's why the jury system is flawed.
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Sorry you didn't get a meeting of the minds on getting this Custom Cue done.

From what I've seen of his work, it's excellent.
 
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