Moori Medium Equivalent?

That is another great option Jimmy. Instead of trying to find a tip that plays like a Moori, put one on that plays better.

Most of my tip stock sit lonely as the Skin is the first choice these days.

I can honestly say that of all the Skins that I have installed, you will pretty much never have to shape or take a mushroom out.

I still have approx 30 plus older Mooris left. Very few players in my city ask for them any more.
 
I have used the Moori tips, I went with a Triangle once and liked it and used them for quite a while. But I was looking for something inexpensive and layered to try similar hardness to Moori.

Cause I'm cheap, I tried Tiger Emerald Layered tip ( on Ebay for $4.99 / with free shipping) and they are amazing, both for installation, shaping and of course outstanding play. They are very similar in hardness to your Moori. I've found my favorite tip so far. Save some money and try them, highly recommended here.
 
I always used Moori mediums, when the became hard to find Mike Webb suggested an Everest medium. I have no complaints with an everest
 
people in my circles have been saying ultraskin play like the original moori tips. I tried a ultraskin medium and it was a good tip. Been so long since i had played with a moori I can't make an accurate comparison from my experience.

Currently, I am using a Tiger Emerald on one of my cues and like it a lot. My other cue, I have a Tiger Everest on my predator shaft, and le pro on another shaft (I went through 3 of them until I got one that was just right). The Tiger Everest is growing on me...not sure if I like more than the tiger emerald. The Tiger emerald is underrated in my humble opinion.
 
FYI, cue tip brand hardness data can be found on the cue tip hardness comparison resource page.
Dave this chart shows a Kamui Black soft at 62 & Elk Master at 65.
I have a hard time believing this comparison.
There are several different charts on the tip hardness resource page. Check out the others. Sources for all of the data are listed and linked.

FYI, hardness can vary from one tip to the next (even with tips of same brand and model).

Regards,
Dave
 
I searched but I could not find the answer.

I'm trying to find the Kamui or other tip manufacturer that might make a tip that is equivalent to a Moori Medium tip.

Thanks

--Jeff

Interesting thread. Which generation Moori are you looking for or compare to?
 
Here's a chart.
http://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/tip_hardness_chart.pdf
I use Kamui black soft. And I think the word soft is misleading in this tip.
The reason I say that is their was a guy on my team years ago that use Elk Master tips.
And I messed around with his cue a couple times and that's what I consider to be a soft tip.

FYI, cue tip brand hardness data can be found on the cue tip hardness comparison resource page.

I hope that helps,
Dave
Dr. Dave these are both from your web page.
http://billiards.colostate.edu
Which I want to add is one of the best if not thee best web page on pool in general.
 
Dr. Dave these are both from your web page.
http://billiards.colostate.edu
There are actually links to three different tables of data on my resource page:

1.) chart of tip types and hardnesses from jschelin99

2.) the set of data listed directly on the resource page from FLYINGSNAIL.

3.) tip buying guide info from PoolDawg

FYI, I have not verified any of this data. I've just summarized it in one convenient location.


Which I want to add is one of the best if not thee best web page on pool in general.
Thank you.

Regards,
Dave
 
Actually the pool dawg tests were conducted using a type A shore durometer which doesn't provide enough force to for the foot to make a proper indentation into a tip when it is in a new out of the box state... Using a shore A the surface smoothness can cause inconsistent results...

The shore d applies more pressure and as such will provide better results across the board since many tips new out of the box and test over 90 on the shore A but will drop into the 60s 70s and 80s using the shore D....

The first test and second test do come close to many of the measurements I have done.... However even these have some issues.... I have my durometers serviced every few months to ensure the spring pressure is correct and the foot is the proper size and shape...

On average Samsara runs at 90 not 95 and I have no phenolics that exceed 95... The predator phenolic actually tests at a 90.. And I had some samples of a break tip sent to me that they had tested at either 90 or 95 that tested at 85 on my shore D which was just calibrated.....

Cuetips1000 has several videos on you tube like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-EtC8SNIfY

He uses a shore D and on one of the videos he goes into a technical explanation of why shore A is not the proper standard to use.....

In the next few months I will start releasing durometer measurements and COR measurements on different tips... I intend to do these in a life cycle test and am working on a way to simulate play so I can measure the tips new, and at different points down the road... At maybe 500 shots, 1000 shots, 2500 shots and then 5000 shots....

Chris
 
So much information and I thank all that responded.

A lot to digest and I really don't have the time, inclination or money to do a systematic evaluation myself. I agree that it is like most things - everyone is so different in their experiences and how people play and what feels right to them, doesn't mean much to another player.

Maybe I will just try a Kamui Soft Tip. I have been using Kamui Black SS and it does wear pretty fast and they are expensive.

Thanks again!

--Jeff
 
Thanks Dave, I have a question. Maybe you know. Why would Kamui come out with "Black" tips when brown tips (Brown S) and (Black S) have almost the same hardness? Is it the look of the tip that is a marketing edge or something?
I think the main reason for most product "features" in the pool world is "marketing." If something is different, novel, or cool in some way, people will often buy it.

Honestly, I don't know if the black material is superior to the brown material in any way. Regardless, some people think a black tip looks cool.

Regards,
Dave
 
I don't think any tips play just like the Moori. But the closest thing to the Moori medium I have found is the Everest.

I agree with cueman, Everest would be closest to moori I could find. Kamui tips to me, do not play similar to moori.
 
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