This would be my list also
MOSCONI CUP 2012 Who Will Win This Year and Why?
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This would be my list also
So the European team is chosen in a traditional fashion and the U.S. team is appointed for the most part. Why is there a difference?
The right to play for country should be earned not appointed.
Ken
I still say I want to see Landon Shuffett on the Mosconi Cup team.
I think Europe should put up their best under-21 yr. old prodigy as well. But, I think Landon could stand on his own against what Europe has to offer.
I think Europe should put up their best under-21 yr. old prodigy as well. But, I think Landon could stand on his own against what Europe has to offer.
The US break was very poor, but the other thing if you want to check how many matches the US jumped out to a big lead and let Europe catch and win the match. This was altanate break also. You can't give 3 matches or more away and expect to win. Again a lot of the blame for this was the poor breaking also. Johnnyt
You are correct sir
mastering the soft break is crucial.......and kicking to get out of good safeties. So many US players just try to hit the ball kicking instead of kicking with a purpose. AND having the sense to shoot a safe........instead of trying to be a hero.
Congrats CJ on your selection as Captain USA
fundamentals are certainly a key under pressure
I agree, fundamentals are certainly a key under pressure. You'll see a different scenario this year.
I agree, fundamentals are certainly a key under pressure. You'll see a different scenario this year.
like the Pledge of Allegiance, it starts with "I" and ends WITH ALL
Thanks, yes, these types of events have a lot to do with how the players handle pressure. Sometimes "time" seems to speed up and it's tempting to take unnecessary risks.
"There's no "I" in TEAM", however, it's like the Pledge of Allegiance, it Starts With "I" and Ends with ALL.....Thanks for your support and great input. Aloha
Thanks, yes, these types of events have a lot to do with how the players handle pressure. Sometimes "time" seems to speed up and it's tempting to take unnecessary risks.
"There's no "I" in TEAM", however, it's like the Pledge of Allegiance, it Starts With "I" and Ends with ALL.....Thanks for your support and great input. Aloha
I would still like to bring up the suggestion I have done a few times...
Create an entire week of events....with three teams
Men
Women
Juniors (under 21)
but I am afraid this would be tilted even more in Europe's favor.
just looking at the rankings on WPA purely.....the teams for Europe would be
Men
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Darren Appleton (GBR)
Hudji See (NED)
Chris Melling (GBR)
Ralf Souquet (GER)
Karl Boyes (GBR)
with reserves like
Mika Immonen (FIN), Nick vd Berg (NED) if they want to get more nationalities in the EU team.
Women
======
Kelly Fisher (GBR)
Jasmin Ouschan (AUT)
Allison Fisher (GBR)
Caroline Roos (SWE)
Line Kjorsvik (NOR)
with Marika Poikkijoki (FIN) in reserves
Juniors (under 21)
=====
tough to say as the juniors do not travel that much...but just looking at the last 2011 Junior WC (and 21 are actually no longer juniors) the Europeans took all medals in 9b (2 for Poland and 1 for Holland)....and I know there are many young guys from Europe that have made it to top16 in many international tournaments...
Create an entire week of events....with three teams
Men
Women
Juniors (under 21)
but I am afraid this would be tilted even more in Europe's favor.
just looking at the rankings on WPA purely.....the teams for Europe would be
Men
===
Darren Appleton (GBR)
Hudji See (NED)
Chris Melling (GBR)
Ralf Souquet (GER)
Karl Boyes (GBR)
with reserves like
Mika Immonen (FIN), Nick vd Berg (NED) if they want to get more nationalities in the EU team.
Women
======
Kelly Fisher (GBR)
Jasmin Ouschan (AUT)
Allison Fisher (GBR)
Caroline Roos (SWE)
Line Kjorsvik (NOR)
with Marika Poikkijoki (FIN) in reserves
Juniors (under 21)
=====
tough to say as the juniors do not travel that much...but just looking at the last 2011 Junior WC (and 21 are actually no longer juniors) the Europeans took all medals in 9b (2 for Poland and 1 for Holland)....and I know there are many young guys from Europe that have made it to top16 in many international tournaments...
a juniors team would be funny. but poland, germany and the netherlands have STRONG youngsters. but i agree that at least 1 woman on the MC team would be interesting.
Mr Wiley, congrats for your nomination as US team captain, just read it on another forum.
Im sure youll do a great job
(even though CW was good for a laugh during his interviews :grin: )
Mr Wiley, congrats for your nomination as US team captain, just read it on another forum.
Im sure youll do a great job
(even though CW was good for a laugh during his interviews :grin: )
Team USA will definitely be the underdogs again this year, but having CJ as their Captain may be the X Factor that makes this a very close match. CJ is a good motivator and he is an expert at playing under pressure. If he can instill in his players the heart he showed when playing, then they have a real chance to reverse the trend of the last few years while Team Europe has dominated the competition.
I think CJ is the perfect choice for team Captain and I'm confident he will get the most out of his players. I look for this to be a one of the best Mosconi Cups yet. See you in December.
I think CJ is the perfect choice for team Captain and I'm confident he will get the most out of his players. I look for this to be a one of the best Mosconi Cups yet. See you in December.
I think in addition to pool skills, which all of the members will have, you need to think about conditioning.
How many times has someone traveled to a foreign country and had problems with the jet lag or food/drink upsetting their system? I would start ensuring that the members adhered to a healthy style diet and got plenty of rest at least a couple of weeks prior to the match. Once in the country, try to maintain the same types of food and drink. I know when I was in the service years ago, introducing different foods and drink always caused me a problem. One example for me was San Miguel beer. Took awhile for my system to adjust.
Not to sound like a strict disciplinarian, but I would forgo the partying until after the match was over. This is for the USA. I have no doubt in my mind that if everyone is on their game and feeling 100% they can bring it home.
Just my thoughts
How many times has someone traveled to a foreign country and had problems with the jet lag or food/drink upsetting their system? I would start ensuring that the members adhered to a healthy style diet and got plenty of rest at least a couple of weeks prior to the match. Once in the country, try to maintain the same types of food and drink. I know when I was in the service years ago, introducing different foods and drink always caused me a problem. One example for me was San Miguel beer. Took awhile for my system to adjust.
Not to sound like a strict disciplinarian, but I would forgo the partying until after the match was over. This is for the USA. I have no doubt in my mind that if everyone is on their game and feeling 100% they can bring it home.
Just my thoughts
into the new time zone by consciously manipulating your exposure to light
You bring up a great point about "jet lag" and the need to strategically adjust to the effects of the flight. Like many other challenges in life it's always best to educate ourselves about any new, critical situation. I read the following after your post and learned several things about preventing lag, especially the "light factor" in the following:
This may be best understood with an example. Let’s say that at 7 p.m. you board a plane in New York that is scheduled to arrive in London at 7 a.m. local time (when it’s 2 a.m. in New York). You’re traveling east, which means you need to advance your internal clock toward London time. To do that, avoid any kind of light during the flight because the exposure will delay your body clock rather than advance it. An obvious (albeit odd) way to accomplish this is to wear sunglasses in the plane. That’s what Professor Lockley and his colleagues do despite the fact that they are flying at night. “People think you’re a rock star,” he said.
Typically, when travelers arrive in London at 7 a.m. they attempt to get on the new time zone right away. “Which is exactly the wrong thing,” Professor Lockley said, because your internal clock is still set to New York time, and trying to adjust too quickly will only exhaust you. What you need to do is to ease yourself into the new time zone by consciously manipulating your exposure to light. So keep those sunglasses on.
This all seems prudent and I'm sure the players won't have a problem with people thinking they're "Rock Stars". :wink:
Here's the article I took the above passage from if you Want To Learn More About JetLag
You bring up a great point about "jet lag" and the need to strategically adjust to the effects of the flight. Like many other challenges in life it's always best to educate ourselves about any new, critical situation. I read the following after your post and learned several things about preventing lag, especially the "light factor" in the following:
This may be best understood with an example. Let’s say that at 7 p.m. you board a plane in New York that is scheduled to arrive in London at 7 a.m. local time (when it’s 2 a.m. in New York). You’re traveling east, which means you need to advance your internal clock toward London time. To do that, avoid any kind of light during the flight because the exposure will delay your body clock rather than advance it. An obvious (albeit odd) way to accomplish this is to wear sunglasses in the plane. That’s what Professor Lockley and his colleagues do despite the fact that they are flying at night. “People think you’re a rock star,” he said.
Typically, when travelers arrive in London at 7 a.m. they attempt to get on the new time zone right away. “Which is exactly the wrong thing,” Professor Lockley said, because your internal clock is still set to New York time, and trying to adjust too quickly will only exhaust you. What you need to do is to ease yourself into the new time zone by consciously manipulating your exposure to light. So keep those sunglasses on.
This all seems prudent and I'm sure the players won't have a problem with people thinking they're "Rock Stars". :wink:
Here's the article I took the above passage from if you Want To Learn More About JetLag
rules for the break where they have the "3 point rule"
I just saw the rules for the break where they have the "3 point rule". A ball on the break counts as a point and each ball past the side counts as a point. If the breaker doesn't score at least 3 points control of the table is turned over to the opponent.
This seems pretty straight forward, sounds like it just discourages a "soft break".
I just saw the rules for the break where they have the "3 point rule". A ball on the break counts as a point and each ball past the side counts as a point. If the breaker doesn't score at least 3 points control of the table is turned over to the opponent.
This seems pretty straight forward, sounds like it just discourages a "soft break".
CJ, just wondering if you have gone back and watched the videos from last year, I just revisited the whole event on youtube, was good to watch it a second time.
I think the break may have played a small part but the serious unforced errors and mental distractions of a couple of players was to me what sealed the deal.
Last year when I heard of some of the things Charlie apparently had the team doing in the run up to the event I was surprised. Taking people out of their routine and doing exercises they may not be used to is a recipe for disaster imo.
It's bad enough trying to adjust to the time zone without upsetting the rest of the system.
I just got back from the UK and what works for me is to not give in to sleep when you get there and try to get into your normal routine as quickly as possible, usually by the 3rd day it's not too bad.
Good luck this year, looking forward to a nailbiter
I think the break may have played a small part but the serious unforced errors and mental distractions of a couple of players was to me what sealed the deal.
Last year when I heard of some of the things Charlie apparently had the team doing in the run up to the event I was surprised. Taking people out of their routine and doing exercises they may not be used to is a recipe for disaster imo.
It's bad enough trying to adjust to the time zone without upsetting the rest of the system.
I just got back from the UK and what works for me is to not give in to sleep when you get there and try to get into your normal routine as quickly as possible, usually by the 3rd day it's not too bad.
Good luck this year, looking forward to a nailbiter
I believe the break rules are the same at Euro tour events.The Europeans know exactly what they are doing from the git-go and immediately go to school on each others break and consistently had control after the break.The US players didn't seem to respond with the same group type mentality.
If it were me I would try and view footage from last years event or maybe a couple of years.Reviewing game footage in a team type setting is a powerful tool.Just my thoughts,I don't think I am going to surprise you with anything.
You seem to be a focused,curious type and will have success leading and plugging holes.
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Breaking from my experience has a lot to do with overall confidence
Yes, I'll study the break when I get some time to focus. I'm finishing up a big project in Dallas this week so I can commit to the Mosconi Cup.
Breaking from my experience has a lot to do with overall confidence and that's what wins Events. I'm very curious not about how the tables have been breaking in the past, and I'm sure they will have no advantage.
I appreciate the input and if there's any questions or comments I'll try to answer if I can. The full roster of players is still confidential until after the US OPEN.
Yes, I'll study the break when I get some time to focus. I'm finishing up a big project in Dallas this week so I can commit to the Mosconi Cup.
Breaking from my experience has a lot to do with overall confidence and that's what wins Events. I'm very curious not about how the tables have been breaking in the past, and I'm sure they will have no advantage.
I appreciate the input and if there's any questions or comments I'll try to answer if I can. The full roster of players is still confidential until after the US OPEN.
Don't worry once Earl wins the us open again, they'll almost have to put him on the roster.