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Mosconi cup and EARL
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Worminator said:
Just a thought on that... America leads 26-11 in ryder cup wins... I really don't think that they did it all on individual... I do agree they thrive and play better individual but there has to be some teamwork involved also...
Here is the link to ryder cup history...http://golf.about.com/od/teamcompetitions/a/rydercupresults.htm
tigerseye said:
Well, they had to win 11 of those race to 5 matches...
Total game score, after 16 matches: 68-50 to Europe.
As was said in an earlier post, Europe did NOT meet the best that the US had to offer this year. Shane is a great player but a little distracted atm and if the truth be known, we would probably all be too. 
Congrats Euro team on a good win but never forget that it is now USA 10 and Europe 4 or is it 5?
Congrats Euro team on a good win but never forget that it is now USA 10 and Europe 4 or is it 5?
ugotactionTX said:
We're not privy to your personal history with Mika so we cannot judge...maybe he was a real asshole to you and you have experienced it personally so you have more credibility. I can't say I have had any personal contact with Mika but from what i see, I think he's a likable enough person. from his blog:
"I am most of the time down-to-earth, ha ha, except when I am playing pool. That is the ultimate situation when you need all the confidence you can get. I try to remain humble because thats what you really need in order to learn. Just like childlike curiosity, humbleness will keep your mind on the task at hand without getting emotional. My goal is to succeed without getting in the way of others. Respect all, fear none. "
maybe this is the reason for some people's negative assessment of him. maybe he can be really focused when he is playing but people perceive it to be smugness....
i know this post contributed nothing much, but let's just give everyone the benefit of the doubt. even earl. (unless one has personal first-hand information about it, then in that case,... blast away!
)
Roy Steffensen said:
Still a joke of a format....Not a joke that they won....I mean we fly halfway around the world just to come over and play you guys for a freakin race to 5?? U got to admit that is no test.... They might as well have been flippin quarters...
tigerseye said:Still a joke of a format....Not a joke that they won....I mean we fly halfway around the world just to come over and play you guys for a freakin race to 5?? U got to admit that is no test.... They might as well have been flippin quarters...
Ain't that the truth! :grin-square:
Aw, let the Europeans bask in the sun with their mini triumph. After all, the Americans have won the Mosconi Cup 10 -- I repeat 10 -- times, with the Europeans winning it a paltry 4 -- I repeat 4 -- times. :nanner:
Matter of fact, the more I think about it, how the European horn tooters rave about how strong the Europeans are compared to Americans, the more I laugh.
United States is one country. Europe is how many countries? It takes all those countries in Europe to tackle one country? Let them eat cake!
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JAM said:
Are we back in kindergarden now? Europeans never seemed to have a problem with admitting that USA was stronger than them when they were dominated in Mosconi Cup and the big tournaments like WC, US Open and so on.
Now the tide has turned, Europe is winning the Mosconi and claiming world titles. In stead of being gracious both when winning and losing, some posters here really make an ass of themselves, and suddenly start to put more emphasis in the overall historical score or complaining about the short races. Pathetic.
Why not accept it, try to work harder and come back on the winning track again? I am sure US again could be a powerhouse in pool if players and organisations worked together. There are much more poolplayers in USA than all the countries in Europe together, so just start looking for fresh talent.
I agree. All we have to do is get our best players on the team, just like Europe had.pooladdict said:
pooladdict said:
If you think a race to 5 is a true test of who is better than whom then u, my friend are pathetic....
Seriously i have the utmost respect for thier winning but the race format is pathetic....
As for us could be powerhouse poolplayers again speech??....i beg to differ my friend... There is only one powerhouse poolplayers and that is phillipinos and then we are a close 2nd.
I just want to add one more thing as for us working together..The last time i checked we are united as one...Maybe it is u that needs to work together...
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pooladdict said:
Uh, I mean, I don't know. I keep reading posts on this forum, the majority of which are written by Norwegians, about how superior the Europeans are to the Americans.
It's not too damn pathetic for the Europeans to flex their muscle, is it? But when the shoe is on the other foot, the Europeans seem to flounder like fish. Enjoy riding the tide while you're in warm waters.
tigerseye said:
And let's not forget how much favoritism is displayed by the WPA towards their European counterparts.
The United States -- oh, that's right -- North America. Our collective little group of countries on this side of the globe are treated like a stepchild by the WPA, while the European players act as if they have a silver spoon in their mouths.
JAM said:
Show me. I guess there is one which you would pull out and that's Roy which is putting side bets on the matches and have a lot of friends up here which he jokes with.
Race to 5? What was it in the old day's than? In case, just bring the old format back again and we're done.
I'm out'a hear. I surrender, I give up.
The matches was unfair, the US team was the best but because the noise was putting them off they did not play good, the European players where always lucky with the breaks, and the audience was all Norwegians shouting, with trumpet horns.
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JAM said:
And every other year the Europeans fly half-way around the world... And they have been flying halfway around the world 7 or 8 times, just to play races to 5.
Most of the time Europe did lose, because the Americans were better. But did you hear any Europeans who have called the Mosconi Cup for a joke, mini triumph etc just because Europe lost???
Most Europeans loves the Mosconi Cup. The players in both Europe and USA LOVE it, and it is broadcasted live in Europe, and we look at it as a major event. Instead of complaining about short races etc, Europe has climbed back, became better than Team USA, and is now winning the tournament.
Oh well. You people who are whining and complaining have not got the message. Europe is getting stronger in pool every day, winning world titles and major tournaments. Europe will continue to do so, and it will not be as "easy" as it was for the American's to win the prestigous Mosconi Cup anymore.
Roy Steffensen said:
You would think that Europe would always be stronger than the U.S. simply because you invented the game, have played it much much longer and still have a hard time beating us....
I enjoy the Mosconi cup just as much as the next guy/girl....I am not complaining about this just because the Euro's won...I am complaining in general....
On another note if ya'll had to play Earl everytime you wouldn't ever win...If you don't believe me just ask EArl...He'll tell ya...LOL!!
Newton said:
You forgot:
The American's had to travel half around the world, had jetlag etc (Just like Mika, the MVP, btw)
Matchroom Sports picked the American team (just like they did with Team Europe. Mark Gray was picked in front of for example Darren Appleton)
Europeans are more used to play Team Events. (But the Europeans didn't manage to win the Mosconi Cup more than once the first 10 years)
http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=6088
Looks like Jerry Forsyth, America's next member in the WPA, has got the message:
Mosconi Cup - Nearing The End
Saturday morning brought a gorgeous day to Malta. The sun perfectly balances the cool of the air, a nice yin and yang combo that invites leisurely walks along the shore. The surf has now calmed and the Mediterranean is as smooth as a teacup. The ships that constantly pass create the only waves. But there are lots of waves in the tournament room. Saturday saw the virtual destruction of the American hopes for victory. As the losses mounted so did the tension on the US team and he day gradually descended into bickering and even tantrums.
The American side just never gelled as a team this year. While the Europeans were always together as a team, moving as a single unit, the Americans were a band of individuals who went their own ways. Only rarely were two or more of them spotted together outside of the practice room. Every morning at breakfast the Euros sat together and lightened one another's spirits. The yanks sat at separate tables from one another and groused. Scapegoats are being sought. Everyone and everything is being blamed for the now critical 9-5 score-line. The pockets are too big. The crowd is too rude. The Euro's do not show the proper respect. Excuses all. Champions like these are expected to find ways to win, not reasons to lose.
The days of American domination of the Cup are over. The European players have, over the course of the last three years, proven themselves to be the new royalty of pool. They own all of the major championships in 2008 and, while the yanks like to say they will take on any of them, are no longer willing to occupy the back seat of the game. While the rest of the world learned this game from the Americans, we are now in a situation where the pupil has surpassed the teacher. It is time for bravado to be banished and a new discipline to rise or the Mosconi Cup could find itself overseas for a very long time to come.
There are only six matches left to be played. The American side must win them all to take the cup while the Euro's need only two. If the Americans cannot find a way to replace their emotion with determination then it could be a very early evening indeed.
By Jerry Forsyth
Looks like Jerry Forsyth, America's next member in the WPA, has got the message:
Mosconi Cup - Nearing The End
Saturday morning brought a gorgeous day to Malta. The sun perfectly balances the cool of the air, a nice yin and yang combo that invites leisurely walks along the shore. The surf has now calmed and the Mediterranean is as smooth as a teacup. The ships that constantly pass create the only waves. But there are lots of waves in the tournament room. Saturday saw the virtual destruction of the American hopes for victory. As the losses mounted so did the tension on the US team and he day gradually descended into bickering and even tantrums.
The American side just never gelled as a team this year. While the Europeans were always together as a team, moving as a single unit, the Americans were a band of individuals who went their own ways. Only rarely were two or more of them spotted together outside of the practice room. Every morning at breakfast the Euros sat together and lightened one another's spirits. The yanks sat at separate tables from one another and groused. Scapegoats are being sought. Everyone and everything is being blamed for the now critical 9-5 score-line. The pockets are too big. The crowd is too rude. The Euro's do not show the proper respect. Excuses all. Champions like these are expected to find ways to win, not reasons to lose.
The days of American domination of the Cup are over. The European players have, over the course of the last three years, proven themselves to be the new royalty of pool. They own all of the major championships in 2008 and, while the yanks like to say they will take on any of them, are no longer willing to occupy the back seat of the game. While the rest of the world learned this game from the Americans, we are now in a situation where the pupil has surpassed the teacher. It is time for bravado to be banished and a new discipline to rise or the Mosconi Cup could find itself overseas for a very long time to come.
There are only six matches left to be played. The American side must win them all to take the cup while the Euro's need only two. If the Americans cannot find a way to replace their emotion with determination then it could be a very early evening indeed.
By Jerry Forsyth