Most durable finish?

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I have had a approximately 30+ cues over the lest 8 years and had one with the most amazing finish I had noticed. It was a Michael Morgan level 7 ornately inlaid Bushka copy that had a finish that took abuse over a 3 year period as my main playing cue. Any other cue I have owned would have shown some serious damage or at least some fisheye from smacking the finish here and there. This cue came out with no more than one slght impression in the finish on the buttsleeve. The cue still looked practically new after all the games and abuse.

Another cue collector looked at it before I sold it and said the finish was likely a DuPont UV finish.

I will be looking to refinish some other cues in the not too distant future and wondered if the cue collector was right in his assertion and if not, what is the best armor like finish one can get. I am tempted to contact Michael Morgan and ask if he would refinish cues not made by him as well. Best darn finish I have ever encountered.
 
IMO Uv finish is more durable than auto clearcoat but is harder to acheve an equal equal glossy shine. Emron is an auto clear that as far as I know is the most durable available. It was developed for industrial aplications like airplanes, tractor trailors, ect.. Acording to my paint rep anyway. PPG and Dupont chromaclear are both very good and durable finishes but are slightly more fragile than the emron but are a little easier to polish to a "wet look"
Chris.
 
Chris Byrne said:
IMO Uv finish is more durable than auto clearcoat but is harder to acheve an equal equal glossy shine. Emron is an auto clear that as far as I know is the most durable available. It was developed for industrial aplications like airplanes, tractor trailors, ect.. Acording to my paint rep anyway. PPG and Dupont chromaclear are both very good and durable finishes but are slightly more fragile than the emron but are a little easier to polish to a "wet look"
Chris.
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I agree with everything you have said. U.V. is probably the toughest finish and Emeron is also a super tough finish. It is my understanding that Emeron is what Joey Gold put on his cues. Be forewarned though as Emeron can be deadly to apply. It not only affects your lungs but is readily absorbed through the skin affecting all internal organs and nervous system. A complete. fresh air supplied suit should be used during application. As with most things in life - If it's worth having it's either illegal, immoral, fattening or deadly.

Dick
 
I've heard how good Emron is from a lot of people.
It was banned in California years ago.
 
They make a California version from what I heard some other states are adopting alot of California laws and regulations. The one made for California it has to many impurities in it even after filtering it noway close to the original.
 
n10spool said:
They make a California version from what I heard some other states are adopting alot of California laws and regulations. The one made for California it has to many impurities in it even after filtering it noway close to the original.
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That's what I am told ( by car finishing instructor ).
So, some of his buddies go to Vegas to buy them.:eek:
 
It was banned in georgia around 1994. I was going to use it to paint my chevelle and could not get the original formula. It was killing off the guys who painted delta jets, my dads friend was a mechanic there. When he heard I was going to use it he got upset and drove to my dads house and warned me excessively not to use it. What he said was it would cristalize in your lungs over time and kill you. I don't know for sure but I am not going to spray any paint without proper ventalation and respirator. Chris.
 
rhncue said:
I agree with everything you have said. U.V. is probably the toughest finish and Emeron is also a super tough finish. It is my understanding that Emeron is what Joey Gold put on his cues. Be forewarned though as Emeron can be deadly to apply. It not only affects your lungs but is readily absorbed through the skin affecting all internal organs and nervous system. A complete. fresh air supplied suit should be used during application. As with most things in life - If it's worth having it's either illegal, immoral, fattening or deadly.

Dick
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Cashews are not fattening or deadly.


<~~~only if eaten in moderation..................
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
Cashews are not fattening or deadly.


<~~~only if eaten in moderation..................
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They are deadly if you drink root beer while eating them.
Ask your wife.
Then again, she might be afraid to tell you cuz you're an internet bully. :D
 
Mike gulassy does a good finish with uv, I don't know if he will share his secrets. Richard also does a nice finish on his cues. Carolina cues has changed how they are doing theirs this past year. Jerry powers also uses it.
I mainly only use my uv setup when a customer says I want a "bar cue" and they are rough on their cues. It will look nice and be durable but is just slightly less glossy than auto clear. For any higher dollar cue I find people are generally very careful with them anyway and therefore I rarely get any requests for uv finish on them. Chris.
 
Chris Byrne said:
Mike gulassy does a good finish with uv, I don't know if he will share his secrets. Richard also does a nice finish on his cues. Carolina cues has changed how they are doing theirs this past year. Jerry powers also uses it.
I mainly only use my uv setup when a customer says I want a "bar cue" and they are rough on their cues. It will look nice and be durable but is just slightly less glossy than auto clear. For any higher dollar cue I find people are generally very careful with them anyway and therefore I rarely get any requests for uv finish on them. Chris.
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Well, Mike is probably trying to get a patent on the way he moves his arm while spraying U.V. If you want a truly shiny U.V. finish then McDermott or maybe Viking would be the place to contact. U.V. is quick, hard, easy to put on but very hard to get the original gloss back after wet sanding the dust and flaws from the finish. McDermott reportedly spent a million dollars on their U.V. system. The cues enter a room on a chain where a charge is put into the gun and a negative charge is put into the cue. The U.V. finish is not sprayed onto the cues but just into the air and the negativity attracts the finish to the cues surface. All of the remainder in the air finally falls to the floor where it drains right back into the spraying system. When it leaves the room it runs past the light and the finish is hardened. There is no dust or impurities so the cues never need rubbing out the way I understand it.

I use the U.V. on all of my cues but just as a filler. It builds very quickly, filling all grain and pores and then I sand smooth and apply an auto urethane as it rubs out so easily. Although I seldom do it, I can get a cue for a refinish and wrap on one day and the customer can pick it up the next.

Dick
 
Wes Hunter does a very nice UV finish, hard, thick & shiny as water. He's very reasonable on refinish prices, too, plus he's pretty quick. You can reach him by PM on here. He goes by "mission".
 
qbilder said:
Wes Hunter does a very nice UV finish, hard, thick & shiny as water. He's very reasonable on refinish prices, too, plus he's pretty quick. You can reach him by PM on here. He goes by "mission".
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Great information. I like his Hunter Classic cues as well. I had the opportunity to play with one once and I thought it hit as solid as any cue out there. I will contact him and check it out.

Thanks to everyone for the information. No matter how careful I have tried to be with my cues, I get into the game and sometimes get a little careless like backstroking into a table or shelf in a tight place. Just the other day in a tournament, my cue and another players smacked as we were both moving into position between two tables. Chit happens!
 
If your cues are not getting beat up, then you aren't playing with them. I hate seeing one of my cues that is clean & pretty. I like seeing them dinged up & blue, means they have been used as they were intended.
 
Dupont 2021 concept clear is as hard as you can get. No uv needed. IMO Dc 3000 is the best cue finish. It's fast drying, less brittle, high mill per coat, and no reducer needed (saves money). Reducers evaporate causing shrinkage and sometimes thinner popping.
 
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