Most Powerful Stroke...Deuel?

Colin Colenso said:
Actually your diagram is quite a bit off with the CB position. The shot was closer to the image below:

btw: The shot is probably 20mph. A speed most players are capable of. Just most wouldn't be game to try this shot. Almost any decent player can make this exact same shot. The unusual curve after the rail is simply due to the fast cloth. Most tables the curve will come before it hits the side rail.

I could play the same shot and I could play it 20% harder, as I believe Cory could. It is not proof of super power...just a lovely power shot.

Yeah you're right, the cueball was to the right a bit. I was tired when I posted that. Anyways, even on fast cloth that slides alot that shot is hard to pull off. Most players can't hit the cueball as accurately as Corey did at that speed. You are saying you can do the same shot, I won't believe you until you post a video of you doing it. For those of you who haven't seen the shot, you can watch it for free in the Corey vs Mika match on BCN. Just fast forward to 41:00 and you will see the crazy shot.

Come on Colin, I wanna see a video of you doing the same shot. No more talk, prove it.
 
LastTwo said:
Come on Colin, I wanna see a video of you doing the same shot. No more talk, prove it.


LMAO...NO CHANCE!! Colin only plays blackboard pool...wei table pool...or daydream pool. He NEVER misses and can make every shot on the table...ALL without aiming!!
 
drivermaker said:
LMAO...NO CHANCE!! Colin only plays blackboard pool...wei table pool...or daydream pool. He NEVER misses and can make every shot on the table...ALL without aiming!!


Driver, you forgot his alltime favorite pool, which would be POCKETPOOL.

10 Rails, I would like to see it as well. Please post a video Colin. :cool:
 
Al-fahl Amir said:
Corey and Niels have told me that they feel Larry has the most powerfull stroke.


Did everyone miss this? The man himself says Nevel so.....
 
LastTwo said:
but after I saw a shot Corey just pulled off against Mika on BCN,



For those of us that do not have time to watch the whole match, can you give us the minutes and seconds of the match the shot took place? The score would even be helpful. Thanks LastTwo
:)
 
sizl said:
For those of us that do not have time to watch the whole match, can you give us the minutes and seconds of the match the shot took place? The score would even be helpful. Thanks LastTwo
:)

I did, read post #22.
 
LastTwo said:
Yeah you're right, the cueball was to the right a bit. I was tired when I posted that. Anyways, even on fast cloth that slides alot that shot is hard to pull off. Most players can't hit the cueball as accurately as Corey did at that speed. You are saying you can do the same shot, I won't believe you until you post a video of you doing it. For those of you who haven't seen the shot, you can watch it for free in the Corey vs Mika match on BCN. Just fast forward to 41:00 and you will see the crazy shot.

Come on Colin, I wanna see a video of you doing the same shot. No more talk, prove it.
The reason you rarely see a CB curve the way his did is because most players rarely get to play on a brand new slick 860 simonis. That shot cannot be replicated with the some CB angle on the tables I play on here.

I just got a small camera. I don't get to practice much but I'm not scared to show I can make shots that I claim. Some good players here should support me as I'm sure they can make that shot with a few whacks.

I never said I could do it as often as Cory. He made it first attempt, sign of a great pro shotmaker. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a shock at the trajectory the CB took.

It's a similar effect to a common trick shot played extremely well by Mike Masse. He draws 3/4 into the rail, and the spin takes after the rail, masseing around a ball and into the corner pocket.

DVD, Col's greatest shots coming soon. Edition 1: The stop shot :p
 
Colin Colenso said:
The reason you rarely see a CB curve the way his did is because most players rarely get to play on a brand new slick 860 simonis. That shot cannot be replicated with the some CB angle on the tables I play on here.

I just got a small camera. I don't get to practice much but I'm not scared to show I can make shots that I claim. Some good players here should support me as I'm sure they can make that shot with a few whacks.

I never said I could do it as often as Cory. He made it first attempt, sign of a great pro shotmaker. I wouldn't be surprised if he got a shock at the trajectory the CB took.

It's a similar effect to a common trick shot played extremely well by Mike Masse. He draws 3/4 into the rail, and the spin takes after the rail, masseing around a ball and into the corner pocket.

DVD, Col's greatest shots coming soon. Edition 1: The stop shot :p

Eh, you were acting like that shot is easy to pull off. Post up some videos of that big stroke of yours, I wanna see.
 
I'd be happy with just seeing a 7 rail draw shot on video. You saw how hard Fast Larry had to hit the cue ball to make it go 11 rails. I do not believe anyone can make a draw shot go 10 rails. In case you haven't seen it, this is the link to my draw shot attempt into the corner. My cloth is the slow stuff.

http://tv.isg.si/site/?q=filebrowser/chrismichaeladams

It's the one titled super draw shot
 
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LastTwo said:
Yeah, I thought it was Nevel until I saw Deuel pull off this shot.

But Deuel wasn't able to hit the draw shot shown any where near as far as Nevel. Maybe you didn't understand the post. They were both shooting the same shot. Deuel couldn't get it as far.

Fred
 
it's Deuel vs Immonen , the draw shot is at ~41:11 !

Incredible !!! I must say that's a pretty amazing stoke their .. and he pull it off like it's nothing !

match can be seen on billardclub for free ;)
 
Unless we bring Massey into the equation, Nevel and Strickland have the two most powerful strokes out there.
 
LastTwo said:
Eh, you were acting like that shot is easy to pull off. Post up some videos of that big stroke of yours, I wanna see.
I wasn't acting anything. That assumes I am stretching the truth, and I certainly wasn't saying it is an easy shot, it is an advanced shot, but makable by decent players with a few attempts. It is only a percentage shot for a few top players.

My whole point is that, lovely shot as it is, it isn't proof of amazing power. I guess it was hit about as hard as a firm break shot (20mph), but played with a lot of draw. No technical reason why most decent players can't make that same shot.

Most players would struggle for accuracy with this level of power, especially when playing the CB very low. But give them enough tries and they'll make it sooner or later.

IMO - Any player who couldn't make that shot with 10 attempts on the same speed table, doesn't have much of a power game.
 
Another Cory shot

btw: I saw Cory play the following shot during a Mike Masse show in Japan a few years ago.

It was the slickest table I'd ever seen. It took Corey about 4 attempts, the first few he messed up pretty bad. It required more power than the shot he played in the video.
 

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