must be an idiot. lol

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On my old huebler cue I NEVER shaped or scuffed the tip. i just played with it as is from huebler I probably would have banked more cash than Reyes had I known better. lol. I just got a new Viking cue with the standard 13mm v-pro shaft and Lepro medium tip. I called them and they-said the new cues with those come from the factory with a nickel radius on the tip. I was a bit skeptical so I ordered a Willard pro tip shaper/scuffer nickel radius just to be safe and keep the tip in perfect playing condition. Hope it works as well and lasts as long as it was advertised. Not bad for 17 bucks imo. Opinions welcomed? Thanks
 
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On my old huebler cue I NEVER shaped or scuffed the tip. i just played with it as is from huebler I probably would have banked more cash than Reyes had I known better. lol. I just got a new Viking cue with the standard 13mm v-pro shaft and Lepro medium tip. I called them and they-said the new cues with those come from the factory with a nickel radius on the tip. I was a bit skeptical so I ordered a Willard pro tip shaper/scuffer nickel radius just to be safe and keep the tip in perfect playing condition. Hope it works as well and lasts as long as it was advertised. Not bad for 17 bucks imo. Opinions welcomed? Thanks
LePro tips are hit or miss. I installed one on my playing cue a few weeks ago. Removed it after a week of shooting and went back to my old standard ultra skin tip. Hope you get a good one and like it, I did not like the Lepro tip at all....
 
Never hit with a lepro I didn't like.

I got a box of em, sorted out the hardest put it on my 13mm sneaky Pete shaft and I've never been one of those that go gaga over the hit.
I put a very slight curve of a shape on it, no more dime for me and
Man alive what I have now is the only way to play for me,
 
I played with lepros for a long time. Nothing wrong with them. You will occasionally get a bad one out of the box. You'll know it's bad when you trim it up and it's all spongey. That's my ultra-technical term.

I always had to hit a few thousand balls with a new tip before it was done mushrooming. So several trim jobs before it was ready for prime time.
 
People that sell and install tips are very fond of the Willard tools. The trick is to give your tip a quick check and touch-up after every rack if needed. Something that will impress others is to toss the Willard tool on the floor and carefully hold it in place catching an edge under the sole of each shoe or boot. Drop the tip into the pocket of the tool and twirl rapidly with the fingers and palm of each hand. Not only will this shape the tip in seconds, if stranded far from civilization like in the heart of NY or LA with a little practice you can start a fire in under a minute!

Few tools with no moving parts can do as much as the Willards. When I was selling and installing tips I strongly considered giving one of the less expensive Willard tools with every tip sold.

Hu
 
People that sell and install tips are very fond of the Willard tools. The trick is to give your tip a quick check and touch-up after every rack if needed. Something that will impress others is to toss the Willard tool on the floor and carefully hold it in place catching an edge under the sole of each shoe or boot. Drop the tip into the pocket of the tool and twirl rapidly with the fingers and palm of each hand. Not only will this shape the tip in seconds, if stranded far from civilization like in the heart of NY or LA with a little practice you can start a fire in under a minute!

Few tools with no moving parts can do as much as the Willards. When I was selling and installing tips I strongly considered giving one of the less expensive Willard tools with every tip sold.

Hu
I don't have a Willard's now but have in the past.

I've done the upside down cue thing many times and got a lot of comments, funniest being something about being a cub scout trying to start a fire...
 
I don't have a Willard's now but have in the past.

I've done the upside down cue thing many times and got a lot of comments, funniest being something about being a cub scout trying to start a fire...


My post was very much tongue in cheek! Misuse or overuse of a Willard tool eats tips. Shape your tip when new if it doesn't come preshaped. If it does come preshaped, play with whatever crown it has for a half dozen sessions then check the crown and you can decide if you want to change it or not. Then the way you play will change the crown a little. This is a good thing. Those that use extreme side often will have a higher crown than those that don't so the tip naturally shapes to each person's style of play. Trying to keep a perfect nickel or dime crown is not necessary and only eats tips, particularly layered tips.

The only real use I have for the Willard tools is using that little cut out on the side to show people what crown they have now before replacing a tip. Often it is closer to a quarter radius which I don't have a template for but I can show where the daylight is when I let the player look at the template themselves.

What I taught my customers was to wipe off the chalk after play then before play the next time and maybe once or twice a session use a BRAD tool or similar and firm pressure to roll dents in the playing surface of the tip not letting it slide or cut the tip. Doing this instead of cutting up tips all of the time or poking lots of tiny holes in them extends life ten-fold for some people! I use tips until I get tired of them, very rarely wearing one out. They last a year or three in heavy play, usually as long as I use the shaft. The Sniper tip on my carbon fiber shaft looks like new after months of heavy play and my Elkmasters last for years dudded or not.

Hu
 
Similar to your story, I played with a Tiger Medium for nearly 15 years! All the hoopla about tips comes and goes but as long as what I have is working, I just roll with it. I recently finally changed it out to a G2 Medium and have been very pleased. It may outlive me! LOL
 
On my old huebler cue I NEVER shaped or scuffed the tip. i just played with it as is from huebler I probably would have banked more cash than Reyes had I known better. lol. I just got a new Viking cue with the standard 13mm v-pro shaft and Lepro medium tip. I called them and they-said the new cues with those come from the factory with a nickel radius on the tip. I was a bit skeptical so I ordered a Willard pro tip shaper/scuffer nickel radius just to be safe and keep the tip in perfect playing condition. Hope it works as well and lasts as long as it was advertised. Not bad for 17 bucks imo. Opinions welcomed? Thanks

Opinions on what? The tip, the shape, the tip tool? All personal preference with how you like it, except maybe the tip tool, some of those are just better made and more effective than others.

Wait till you get into how the different shafts perform LOL
 
I use milk dud tips with a tip pik. I like those tips because they last a long time and retain their shape. If you like a soft tip they are not for you.
 
I use milk dud tips with a tip pik. I like those tips because they last a long time and retain their shape. If you like a soft tip they are not for you.


Depends on who does the dudding. I make my own and compress them down to 3/4 to full height or a bit more and have a long lasting tip that seems just as soft as the original Elkmaster. I recommend that people do make their own. One box of Elkmaster tips makes a lifetime supply for you and your friends. It is a multi-step process starting with tip selection though. My last box of Elkmasters had nine stinkers in it that I threw away, raised the price of the rest of them to almost fifty cents each!

Hu
 
Depends on who does the dudding. I make my own and compress them down to 3/4 to full height or a bit more and have a long lasting tip that seems just as soft as the original Elkmaster. I recommend that people do make their own. One box of Elkmaster tips makes a lifetime supply for you and your friends. It is a multi-step process starting with tip selection though. My last box of Elkmasters had nine stinkers in it that I threw away, raised the price of the rest of them to almost fifty cents each!

Hu
What is your method for selecting the bad ones?
 
What is your method for selecting the bad ones?

I do a very quick measurement locking the dial indicator down on the size of the first one then using it as a gauge to make sure no different sized ones slipped through. I measure height and diameter this way, only takes a few minutes to check all of them. Then most importantly I weigh them. The last box had nine very very light tips, then two groups that each had a bunch of tips that weighed basically the same thing. A fourth group which had only four tips in it was very heavy. I wanted to keep them to play with myself and see how they played and held up but unfortunately they were lost when my shop was in a storm. Dudded or not, I found that the thirty-seven tips in the two medium weight groups played very well. I just used a cheap under twenty dollar digital scale from harbor fright to weigh them, worked just fine. I don't remember the weights and don't believe the actual weight matters, it is obvious that these very consistently weighted groups should be from good leather.

Forgot to mention, Elkmaster now offers selected tips themselves, Elkmaster Pro's for a few dollars each. I suspect they select much like I do.

Hu
 
Depends on who does the dudding. I make my own and compress them down to 3/4 to full height or a bit more and have a long lasting tip that seems just as soft as the original Elkmaster. I recommend that people do make their own. One box of Elkmaster tips makes a lifetime supply for you and your friends. It is a multi-step process starting with tip selection though. My last box of Elkmasters had nine stinkers in it that I threw away, raised the price of the rest of them to almost fifty cents each!

Hu
That's interesting. I get mine from poolmanis.
 
So if I don’t go wacko using the shaper every week the Lepro medium tip should last for years. I don’t play with a lot of english. Just check the radius frequently to make sure the tip Is holding the nickel radius and shape only when necessary? Thanks
 
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So if I don’t go wacko using the shaper every week the Lepro medium tip should last for years. I don’t play with a lot of english. Just check the radius frequently to make sure the tip Is holding the nickel radius and shape only when necessary? Thanks

Might shape it a little a few times when it is fairly new. After that I would accept that the tip is shaped for your style of play and leave it alone other than light scuffing and repairing damage if it is a must.

Hu
 
My post was very much tongue in cheek! Misuse or overuse of a Willard tool eats tips. Shape your tip when new if it doesn't come preshaped. If it does come preshaped, play with whatever crown it has for a half dozen sessions then check the crown and you can decide if you want to change it or not. Then the way you play will change the crown a little. This is a good thing. Those that use extreme side often will have a higher crown than those that don't so the tip naturally shapes to each person's style of play. Trying to keep a perfect nickel or dime crown is not necessary and only eats tips, particularly layered tips.

The only real use I have for the Willard tools is using that little cut out on the side to show people what crown they have now before replacing a tip. Often it is closer to a quarter radius which I don't have a template for but I can show where the daylight is when I let the player look at the template themselves.

What I taught my customers was to wipe off the chalk after play then before play the next time and maybe once or twice a session use a BRAD tool or similar and firm pressure to roll dents in the playing surface of the tip not letting it slide or cut the tip. Doing this instead of cutting up tips all of the time or poking lots of tiny holes in them extends life ten-fold for some people! I use tips until I get tired of them, very rarely wearing one out. They last a year or three in heavy play, usually as long as I use the shaft. The Sniper tip on my carbon fiber shaft looks like new after months of heavy play and my Elkmasters last for years dudded or not.

Hu
thanks
 
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