Keith McCready said:it's like a nightmare. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
Now that's funny. God bless you Keith, and long live Grady Seasons.
My First Red Rep Point....Thanks A Lot
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Now that's funny. God bless you Keith, and long live Grady Seasons.
quitecoolguy said:
I love going to Richmond. There's two GREAT spots to play pool there, too. Each one has a different atmosphere, but they're both a ton of fun to hang out at. I miss seeing Larry Kressel and his lady, Josh, Dave the Dentist, and the whole gang. Look forward to seeing you there someday soon! Thanks for the first round. I'll take a bottled water!
JAM
Keith McCready said:First of all, I know what incident you're talking about, in Las Vegas playing 8-ball. Oh, boy! You mean to tell me that somebody can't beat you on a bar table playing 8-ball? I've been beat by girls playing 8-ball on a bar table, lots of times. LOL
All they were talking about in that other thread is when I was in my prime, that I was almost unbeatable, and that was the facts in the late '70s and early '80s. When it came time to come to California where you could come and hustle pool, all the champions went the other way because I broke every one of them. And there wasn't any one of them I couldn't spot. Then I proceeded to go to every champion's hometown, looking to bust them as well.
When I went looking to play a champion, I wanted to play them 10 ahead for 5 or 10,000 a set, put up for two sets, and play until you drop. Let's not forget one thing. When I was doing my playing, I was playing on a 4-by-8 with a big cueball and a 3-1/2 by 7 with a big cueball playing 2-shot/roll-out where you could break a person down. Well, when they came out with the one-foul/ball-in-hand, my interest in pool went to nothing because now all of a sudden, best players didn't win. It took a lot of the spunk out of the game. And you know why they came up with the one-foul/ball-in-hand? Because it would give the weaker players a chance.
I don't know how you get off just coming up with one incident. If everybody was to come up with just one incident of a loss, everybody would be a loser.
I wish you the best of luck on these forums. I hope I don't have to wake up to some other BS about me. I sort of understand why there isn't much participation from the pros. Who needs this?
I do want to thank the certain ones that did stick up for me. Hopefully, there will be something good to say my next visit to AzBilliards, but I kind of doubt it. AzBilliards may be a lot of things to a lot of people, but to me, it's like a nightmare. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
I somehow missed all that mess in whatever thread it was posted in. This is the first I've heard about this latest installment of "Bash the Pro's Who Post Here"...
First, Keith, you have to know by now that for every detractor you may have, you have a couple of hundred fans who are very supportive of your great accomplishments.
Second, with regards to pros who once post here and now choose not to because of the occasional flak, think of it like this...We all live somewhere where occasionally, we get a leaking toilet or something breaks and needs repaired. We just fix it and go on, we don't move out of our house to avoid a leaky roof.
I think the pros get an aweful lot of well deserved accolades on these boards. Maybe 1%-5% of the time, a great pro has something dumb written about them. I would look at all the nice things being said and written about you.
And my trump card is this....There was NEVER any QUIT in you EVER on a pool table. Your heart is bigger than average. I can't imagine somebody out woofing you or woofing enough to make you unscrew your stick. I know that's probably unfair to try to put heat on you like that, but I'll speak for many fans who would love for you and other pros to contribute MORE not less.
Plus, you have plenty of internet tush-hogs that will back you up.
Terry
(Tush-hog so far of Grady, Freddy, Earl, Oliver, Shannon, SVB, Allen Hopkins, Lassiter, DeOro and on and on....
)I never said Keith was not a great player and if many of you people would read the entire post, you will note that I said that. However the fact remains that on this particular occasion Keith was not going to win this match and he knew it. The kid has played the best bar table 8 ball players in the country and has done very well.
Keith, why do you think he approached you, he wanted to play the best. And after nearly 20 years the fact that you still recall this incident speaks highly of the impression he left upon you. You are a great player and one of the best entertainers in the game. Even when the kid was getting the best of you I was LMAO at some of your comments about what was happening. I hope there are no hard feelings but you know yourself the kid can play. He has his own list of champions he has beat but very few know who he is and that's how he likes it.
Keith, why do you think he approached you, he wanted to play the best. And after nearly 20 years the fact that you still recall this incident speaks highly of the impression he left upon you. You are a great player and one of the best entertainers in the game. Even when the kid was getting the best of you I was LMAO at some of your comments about what was happening. I hope there are no hard feelings but you know yourself the kid can play. He has his own list of champions he has beat but very few know who he is and that's how he likes it.
Kinda curious who is this kid? 20 years later couldn't possibly knock his action. Was it Tony Banks???
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Buddy, just ignore it. They should be given rarely, personal feelings aside. I got a red rep the other day because I truthfully answered a "what would make you smoke? question. Maybe this is why some of us are a little gun shy to tell what we percieve to be true. I'll give up a little greenie for the question. But I have to say I was a personal witness to Mezeric sp asking for the 5 and breaks at the tropicanna in 79? K Mc was and is fearless. If he ever turned down a game it was because he had been up too long or his chemical balance was getting a little funny. or even dead broke. Sad but true.skeeterpro said:
Quit with money in his pocket? Not hardly.
Terry Ardeno said:
In front of a full house of onlookers, I stepped up to the plate against the mighty Nick Varner. Yeah, that's right. That's the same Nick Varner that's in the BCA's Hall of Fame. Folks say he's supposed to be some sort of champion, but it didn't matter none to me.
Nick Varner was giving out autographs like candy, having his picture taken with the railbirds, acting like some sort of celebrity. I mean, the nerve of him, coming to my hometown pool room and throwing his weight around. Well, I decided to give this so-called pool legend a lesson. Folks say he was unbeatable and was now in the prime of his pool-playing career.
I had no fear, and when Varner asked if anyone wanted to play a game of 9-ball, I walked right on up to the table and said, "Flip 'em, Nickie Baby." Winning the flip, I broke the balls, but came up empty. Nick Varner methodically ran the balls, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight.
Now this is where it gets interesting. Nick had a straight-in shot on the 9-rock. Most champions would have just split the wicket, but I know that Nick's nerves got the best of him. Some champion he was. He missed it by a mile, allowing me to snatch the almighty win in front of my peers.
Nick Varner is compared to many pool champions, past and present, but he couldn't get past me. I think this game, me defeatin Nick Varner in the prime of his career, is so significant that it should be broadcast and published throughout the pool media. In fact, I'm going to start writing letters to the pool media right now and demand this factoid be published.
I even got a T-shirt that says "I Beat Nick Varner Playing 9-Ball," so I can prove it.
Stay tuned and I'll tell you about the time I beat Willie Mosconi, too. These champion players are heralded as the best. Little does the public know that they got beat by me, one time in one isolated little pool hall. It's very noteworthy and should go down in the record books, IMHO. The rest of their pool-playing career shouldn't mean squat if they can't get by me.
JAM
Nick Varner was giving out autographs like candy, having his picture taken with the railbirds, acting like some sort of celebrity. I mean, the nerve of him, coming to my hometown pool room and throwing his weight around. Well, I decided to give this so-called pool legend a lesson. Folks say he was unbeatable and was now in the prime of his pool-playing career.
I had no fear, and when Varner asked if anyone wanted to play a game of 9-ball, I walked right on up to the table and said, "Flip 'em, Nickie Baby." Winning the flip, I broke the balls, but came up empty. Nick Varner methodically ran the balls, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight.
Now this is where it gets interesting. Nick had a straight-in shot on the 9-rock. Most champions would have just split the wicket, but I know that Nick's nerves got the best of him. Some champion he was. He missed it by a mile, allowing me to snatch the almighty win in front of my peers.
Nick Varner is compared to many pool champions, past and present, but he couldn't get past me. I think this game, me defeatin Nick Varner in the prime of his career, is so significant that it should be broadcast and published throughout the pool media. In fact, I'm going to start writing letters to the pool media right now and demand this factoid be published.
I even got a T-shirt that says "I Beat Nick Varner Playing 9-Ball," so I can prove it.
Stay tuned and I'll tell you about the time I beat Willie Mosconi, too. These champion players are heralded as the best. Little does the public know that they got beat by me, one time in one isolated little pool hall. It's very noteworthy and should go down in the record books, IMHO. The rest of their pool-playing career shouldn't mean squat if they can't get by me.
JAM
Keith McCready said:First of all, I know what incident you're talking about, in Las Vegas playing 8-ball. Oh, boy! You mean to tell me that somebody can't beat you on a bar table playing 8-ball? I've been beat by girls playing 8-ball on a bar table, lots of times. LOL
All they were talking about in that other thread is when I was in my prime, that I was almost unbeatable, and that was the facts in the late '70s and early '80s. When it came time to come to California where you could come and hustle pool, all the champions went the other way because I broke every one of them. And there wasn't any one of them I couldn't spot. Then I proceeded to go to every champion's hometown, looking to bust them as well.
When I went looking to play a champion, I wanted to play them 10 ahead for 5 or 10,000 a set, put up for two sets, and play until you drop. Let's not forget one thing. When I was doing my playing, I was playing on a 4-by-8 with a big cueball and a 3-1/2 by 7 with a big cueball playing 2-shot/roll-out where you could break a person down. Well, when they came out with the one-foul/ball-in-hand, my interest in pool went to nothing because now all of a sudden, best players didn't win. It took a lot of the spunk out of the game. And you know why they came up with the one-foul/ball-in-hand? Because it would give the weaker players a chance.
I don't know how you get off just coming up with one incident. If everybody was to come up with just one incident of a loss, everybody would be a loser.
I wish you the best of luck on these forums. I hope I don't have to wake up to some other BS about me. I sort of understand why there isn't much participation from the pros. Who needs this?
I do want to thank the certain ones that did stick up for me. Hopefully, there will be something good to say my next visit to AzBilliards, but I kind of doubt it. AzBilliards may be a lot of things to a lot of people, but to me, it's like a nightmare. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
Keith, do you remember matching up against Steve Bourada in Vegas? I know the story here from Ottawa, but just checking to see if you remember him. (very tall guy, sometimes nicknamed big bird). It probably would have been late 90's.
Anyway, all the best!
Grin
You made your point well!
Also reminded me of watching Mike Massey playing eight ball with some folks for a small donation before a benefit exhibition a few years ago. An eight foot table with buckets and Mike ran out to the eight ball every game and by some wild coincidence hooked himself when he was shooting the eight ball every game. I refrained from playing him because I remembered it being a little tougher when I played him for cash back in the seventies.
Hu
You made your point well!
Also reminded me of watching Mike Massey playing eight ball with some folks for a small donation before a benefit exhibition a few years ago. An eight foot table with buckets and Mike ran out to the eight ball every game and by some wild coincidence hooked himself when he was shooting the eight ball every game. I refrained from playing him because I remembered it being a little tougher when I played him for cash back in the seventies.
Hu
JAM said:
It's True, So Help Me God
JAM's story reminds me of the time that I beat John Schmidt.
I'd driven ALL THE WAY to Mobile, Ala. to play in the 9-ball barbox tournament at Breaker's Billiards and with about 100 players, I drew John Schmidt.
It was a race to 9 and John beat me 9-1. In that one game, John had broken and was running the rack (yet again) and the 7 ball hit the point on the side pocket and came to a stop right in front of the pocket. I approached the table and John swept the remaining three balls to the spot.
I won that game. I broke the next game, came up dry and John ran the set out. But, I beat U.S.Open winner John Schmidt that game. One of my New Orleans 'friends' (it might have been JoeyA.) said, "that's the best you've ever shot" and they were right.
Doug
( after he got by me, John went undefeated and won the tournament )
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JAM's story reminds me of the time that I beat John Schmidt.
I'd driven ALL THE WAY to Mobile, Ala. to play in the 9-ball barbox tournament at Breaker's Billiards and with about 100 players, I drew John Schmidt.
It was a race to 9 and John beat me 9-1. In that one game, John had broken and was running the rack (yet again) and the 7 ball hit the point on the side pocket and came to a stop right in front of the pocket. I approached the table and John swept the remaining three balls to the spot.
I won that game. I broke the next game, came up dry and John ran the set out. But, I beat U.S.Open winner John Schmidt that game. One of my New Orleans 'friends' (it might have been JoeyA.) said, "that's the best you've ever shot" and they were right.
Doug
( after he got by me, John went undefeated and won the tournament )
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How does this work? Yesterday when Skeeterpro complained about JAM giving him bad rep, he had 1 red dot. Today he has 4 green dots but only 39 posts. How does this happen? Is rep just smoke and mirrors?
Smorgass Bored said:JAM's story reminds me of the time that I beat John Schmidt.
I'd driven ALL THE WAY to Mobile, Ala. to play in the 9-ball barbox tournament at Breaker's Billiards and with about 100 players, I drew John Schmidt.
It was a race to 9 and John beat me 9-1. In that one game, John had broken and was running the rack (yet again) and the 7 ball hit the point on the side pocket and came to a stop right in front of the pocket. I approached the table and John swept the remaining three balls to the spot.
I won that game. I broke the next game, came up dry and John ran the set out. But, I beat U.S.Open winner John Schmidt that game. One of my New Orleans 'friends' (it might have been JoeyA.) said, "that's the best you've ever shot" and they were right.
Doug
( after he got by me, John went undefeated and won the tournament )
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You Da Man!!
Smorgass Bored said:JAM's story reminds me of the time that I beat John Schmidt.
I'd driven ALL THE WAY to Mobile, Ala. to play in the 9-ball barbox tournament at Breaker's Billiards and with about 100 players, I drew John Schmidt.
It was a race to 9 and John beat me 9-1. In that one game, John had broken and was running the rack (yet again) and the 7 ball hit the point on the side pocket and came to a stop right in front of the pocket. I approached the table and John swept the remaining three balls to the spot.
I won that game. I broke the next game, came up dry and John ran the set out. But, I beat U.S.Open winner John Schmidt that game. One of my New Orleans 'friends' (it might have been JoeyA.) said, "that's the best you've ever shot" and they were right.
Doug
( after he got by me, John went undefeated and won the tournament )
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Hmmmmm must be nice
I played Tyler Edey at the Spokane Open and got my ass wailed 9-0
( winner breaks can be a shitter if you're not winning
)
JAM said:
Jam I love your sarcasim
And yea to say that Keith is some washed up has been is stupid. I mean I know of a story back from Valley Forge a few yrs ago where Keith ended up on the loser's end of a match with a semi - unknown back then.
Does it mean that Keith is all washed up and I should be giving him the 7? HELL NO! If anyone doesnt respect the talent that Keith has. Well said person has some serious issues.
Plus what Pro, hasnt ended up running into some unknown guy, who just runs racks? And expecially playing 8ball? I've played 8ball against B+/A- players and sometimes just sit there and rack 3 or 4 times in a row. Does it mean I am all washed up? hell no.