My garage renovation (Pics)
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And this is the carpet.. Berber, for high traffic.. Hours and hours pacing around the table.. 
Berber carpet is known to be hard to work with.. Seams show up unless your carpet installers know what they are doing. The GC seems to have underbid a bit on the job, so he is doing the carpet himself.. He says he knows what he is doing, and has done a lot of carpet.. I sure hope he doesn't screw up this seam.
At this point, the two pieces of carpet are not attached to the floor yet. Cross yer fingers!
Russ
Berber carpet is known to be hard to work with.. Seams show up unless your carpet installers know what they are doing. The GC seems to have underbid a bit on the job, so he is doing the carpet himself.. He says he knows what he is doing, and has done a lot of carpet.. I sure hope he doesn't screw up this seam.
At this point, the two pieces of carpet are not attached to the floor yet. Cross yer fingers!
Russ
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Russ,
What city in Florida are you in? I am in the Palm Beach area and I'm a state certified electrical contractor. I can hook you up with a manufacturer of the tankless water heater in Jupiter for a good deal. Since your electrical panel is in the same room, adding the extra circuits for the tankless would be a piece of cake. I also noticed there isn't an emergency drain on the water heater. If this leaks,and they do, you are in for a lot of water damage. This is the other great thing about the tankless heater. You never have to worry about a leak.
Paul
What city in Florida are you in? I am in the Palm Beach area and I'm a state certified electrical contractor. I can hook you up with a manufacturer of the tankless water heater in Jupiter for a good deal. Since your electrical panel is in the same room, adding the extra circuits for the tankless would be a piece of cake. I also noticed there isn't an emergency drain on the water heater. If this leaks,and they do, you are in for a lot of water damage. This is the other great thing about the tankless heater. You never have to worry about a leak.
Paul
Darth said:Russ,
What city in Florida are you in? I am in the Palm Beach area and I'm a state certified electrical contractor. I can hook you up with a manufacturer of the tankless water heater in Jupiter for a good deal. Since your electrical panel is in the same room, adding the extra circuits for the tankless would be a piece of cake. I also noticed there isn't an emergency drain on the water heater. If this leaks,and they do, you are in for a lot of water damage. This is the other great thing about the tankless heater. You never have to worry about a leak.
Paul
Really depends on the cost.. It was beginning to look like the cost was going to be 2K+.. What should the installation cost be, and can it be installed right where the old water heater is?
Russ
Yes Russ,Russ Chewning said:
I can be installed where the old heater is. The old heater uses approx. 30 amperes of power at 240 volts. The tankless uses 60 amperes at 240 volts. The existing wire is a 10awg wire size and needs to be changed to a 6awg wire. awg(american wire guage). Since the panel is so close the electrical part of it shouldn't cost more than 200.00 The tankless will be around 300.00. The plumbing is easy and shouldn't cost more than a service call and some fittings. Maybe 100.00 About 600.00 total if that. The tankless uses less electricity over a yearly period than a regular water heater. It only turns on when you open the hot water valve. A regular heater has to turn on several times a day to keep the water in the tank hot. The tankless also uses less water so your water bill will be less. I've had one in my house for 3 yrs and never had a problem.
Darth said:
Well, I guess the reason I nixed the idea is because of some stuff I read on google groups. People said the average electrical service to a house is 200 amps, and that an electric tankless would suck up 116 amps of this.. So people end up having to get another service line to their home.
Also, both bathrooms are about as far as is possible from the garage.. Would that be a problem?
I would like to go tankless to get rid of the big water heater, but I hear about people saying they are more costly to buy, AND maintain.. Can you clear up any misconceptions I might have? A quick synopsis of installation and operation would help. Would a tankless be enough for a 4 person family?
Russ
Russ Chewning said:
I've just had the electrician run the line for my tankless WH -http://www.tanklesswaterheater.com/
It uses around 50AMPS when it is in use. Because it is going in a fishing camp that won't be used daily, I am not concerned about how many amps. The electrician says that it won't be a problem. I hope he is right.
If it goes bad I can always hook up a traditional water heater.
I will just keep my fingers crossed that it will work as it is designed to. The manufacturer says that motel/hotels use them regularly to heat water in each rental room.
My entire fishing camp has water lines made of FlowGuard Gold CPVC and I am the first to do such a thing in our area. We'll see if I made a mistake or not as time passes. BUT my fishing camp is not my house so I guess I would be more cautious about using the tankless stuff at home although I know other people who use the tankless water heaters at home without trouble although they use the Japanese?? sounding name, Gas Tankless water heater which has to be vented.
Anyway good luck. Keep those pictures on the pool room coming.
JoeyA
Looks like it's going to be a great room and it's coming along nicely!
Now the table is in place that wall colour looks really good. Great choice. I was looking at the game room at my brother in law's new house recently, they're going with a light beige on the walls & I think it's a mistake. He's putting a 10ft snooker table in & I think the colour you've chosen would work much better.
Russ, that must be tough seeing that & being so far away. I wouldn't be able to leave that room!
Russ, that must be tough seeing that & being so far away. I wouldn't be able to leave that room!
The room looks great! I'd change out the water heater when the exsisting one starts to get old, but before it fails The longer you wait, the better the electronics get in the tankless units, AND the $$$ goes down. I put my first one in about 15 years ago, and it was a dinosour compared to the cool new ones. Since your other water heater is there in use and OK, just ride out it's life, then do the swap. Give me a shout when you are ready, I'll most likely be back in FLA by then.
Gerry <<<< 22 years in the plumbing trade. I won't mess up your house too bad
The longer you wait, the better the electronics get in the tankless units, AND the $$$ goes down. I put my first one in about 15 years ago, and it was a dinosour compared to the cool new ones. Since your other water heater is there in use and OK, just ride out it's life, then do the swap. Give me a shout when you are ready, I'll most likely be back in FLA by then.Gerry <<<< 22 years in the plumbing trade. I won't mess up your house too bad
Russ, the room looks great, and the table just adds the finishing touches, glad everything went well for you, construction can be a nightmare, sounds like you had the right crews. Hope you get home soon, and can enjoy the table.