My Linen Wrap Is Too Slippery

How can a pressed linen wrap be slippery? I ask this because I've only played with pressed linen wraps for years and never thought any of them were slippery at all. I've had some that were supposed to be pressed but were not and they were slippery. I've also played with but not owned production cues that were supposed to be pressed but were not. I've always been able to tell the difference within a few minutes.
I'm not sure what kind of a grip would make the wrap seem more slippery, mine isn't really tight but it certainly isn't loose.
 
How can a pressed linen wrap be slippery? ...
It depends on the player and the conditions. I've seen both linen and leather wraps that were slippery for me in dry weather conditions. My hands seem to have stopped sweating some years ago.
 
How can a pressed linen wrap be slippery? I ask this because I've only played with pressed linen wraps for years and never thought any of them were slippery at all. I've had some that were supposed to be pressed but were not and they were slippery. I've also played with but not owned production cues that were supposed to be pressed but were not. I've always been able to tell the difference within a few minutes.
I'm not sure what kind of a grip would make the wrap seem more slippery, mine isn't really tight but it certainly isn't loose.

Pushout:

As mentioned in one of my previous posts, an Irish Linen wrap can indeed be considered "slippery" -- especially when you compare it to wraps like:

  • Wrapless
  • Poly-coated Irish Linen (like what Meucci does -- looks like glass)
  • Leather (either flat piece wrapped around the cue, or a "cord" [stack leather])
  • Stingray
  • ...and of course, the roll-on rubber grips as used by carom players (or those like myself that want something with more "tack" than an Irish Linen grip)
If you compare Irish Linen to *any* of the above grips, I think you can agree that Irish Linen would be considered more "slippery" than the above (even if, as in your case, the Irish Linen is properly installed / maintained).

One thing that you can't argue about Irish Linen, though, is the "old-timers" trick of burnishing the Irish Linen by spinning the cue on a lathe, and pressing a piece of Ash wood against it. This trick was used to "slicken" the Irish Linen for slip-strokers. And slicken it it does! In my slip-stroke days, I used to have a cue with an Ash-burnished Irish Linen grip that would make a high-pitched "zip" sound when I would slip-and-regrip during the slip stroke. It's the same type of sound when a fat lady is wearing pantyhose -- that "zip-zip-zip" sound when she walks.

Double-pressed Irish Linen, though, is much better. This is done with pressure rollers, like these Irish Linen presses found here:

http://cuestik.com/store/product.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=162&ITEM_ID=5913
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Notice that one tool that has wooden handles with the circular cutout in them -- that area of the tool is used for burnishing the Irish Linen, which is what I'm cautioning those readers [that don't like slick Irish Linen] against. When you have your Irish Linen worked on by your cue repair person, be very stern with him/her, and tell him/her that you want only the pressure-roller treatment, *NOT* the burnishing!

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
 
Careful on the power draw

I never knew a wrap could be TOO slippery.

Dave-

Yeah, apparently so.

There's a video kickin around where this guy shoots a power draw shot-using a 'slip stroke'-and the cue comes completely out of his grip hand and 'throws like an underhand javelin'.

Got a pretty good draw out of it too.

You might want to check it out.;)

Take care

Wait for it-almost here
 
Go get a dollar cheeseburger from McDonalds, (make sure it has ketchup and mustard), and rub it all up and down the wrap till it almost disintegrates.

Wipe away excess food.

Open can of cola, (coke or pepsi will do), and pour it generously all over the wrap.
Pat dry.

Wrap a towel around your neck and go run a marathon, or do some cardio workout till the towel is drenched.
Take the towel and rub it all up and down the wrap sealing all the goodness in.
Let cure in a warm dry place for a couple of days.

This will accomplish in a couple of days what a couple of years of hardcore marathon gambling will, where food, soda, and sweaty palms make your wrap super sticky over time.

Spray deodorizing air freshener (optional) all over the wrap to give it a good stink.

Enjoy your wrap.
 
When you have your Irish Linen worked on by your cue repair person, be very stern with him/her, and tell him/her that you want only the pressure-roller treatment, *NOT* the burnishing!

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean



Great Advice! I just had a wrap done and didn't know this. It's as slippery as an Armourall Leather seat! Let me know what works best for you. I've heard good things about bee's wax.
 
here's a different option, I can control all shots better,and can now shot softer

I don't play with my hand on the wrap lately.A question (where is your hand supposed to be??) I have my hand on the butt of my Schon Jacoby ltd. I use butchers bowling alley wax on all finished surfaces. It grips great. It does 2 things (the position keeps my arm where it supposed to be when the cue hits the ball,and allows me to follow through some 9 inches . And it greatly helps with speed control of every shot. I have a range then of 1-10. with a lag speed being 1. I used to use the wax paper sealing my wrap, but I found it collected to much dirt. I always use a towel now to dry both hands. Butchers will seal your shaft too,but its none slip so sand the shaft with 1500,after waxing. There is a basic ratio of the cue weight against the cueball weight,and this method lets the cue do the work. hope it helps good luck mark
 
I got rid of my new Zamboti (1978) just because of the leather grip, not enough tack with the one Gus used at that time. I had to lay the handle crossways in my lap to keep it warm, very annoying.
 
after about 15 years with a Schon SR6, i had the same slippery linen problem. bite the bullet and get it rewrapped. linen will hold up for a long, long time, with not a lot of expense. sure wish it had not gotten stolen.
i did try wax paper. didn't like results.
 
I got rid of my new Zamboti (1978) just because of the leather grip, not enough tack with the one Gus used at that time. I had to lay the handle crossways in my lap to keep it warm, very annoying.
I have a cue with a leather wrap that gets very slippery in the winter -- warm and dry in the room. My solution was to wax/polish the wrap -- made it quite tacky. I now use a wrapless cue.

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linen shouldnt be pressed or coated in any way. sand it lightly to remove all the crap on it then take a damp cloth and rub it for awhile to get the fibers back to normal and then leave it alone.
 
all my sticks are over 12 years old. matter of fact more like 40 plus. my irish linen is still fine.

ill reply again in 2034 to the thread.
 
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