my advice for those who have yet to learn the nuances of various hustles is to assume any opponent shoots at a lights out professional standard
Scottster said:
I understand your point, but Johnny Mark doesn't go to Blackjack wanting a fair game does he? He is looking for the same thing as you, some easy cash.
I'll tell you a funny story. I don't like to gamble, and this gal and her dad had both been barking at me to gamble for quite a while. Dad was better than me, she was a little worse than me. So one day she is barking at me and I agree, win a small bet easily, and now the whole room is hearing that I'm a hustler. I finally give her the money and tell her to put it in the jukebox just to get her to shut up. Now the whole room thinks I just hustled this girl, plus I'm listening to the most God awful music I've ever heard. At least she quit asking me to gamble.
Puleeeeeeez
Every time you match up and gamble with someone you don't know and don't know their speed, you are truly gambling. Reminds me of a time in my youth that a road player came to Sacramento and nobody knew who he was. He beat half the town playing left handed (including me) and then when he couldn't beat the top players left handed he was suddenly right handed and beat the rest! We all had a good laugh at what FISH we were.
Moral of the story: Never gamble for more than you can afford to lose and if you do lose, chalk it up to the cost of your "education"
That's my opinion
Every time you match up and gamble with someone you don't know and don't know their speed, you are truly gambling. Reminds me of a time in my youth that a road player came to Sacramento and nobody knew who he was. He beat half the town playing left handed (including me) and then when he couldn't beat the top players left handed he was suddenly right handed and beat the rest! We all had a good laugh at what FISH we were.
Moral of the story: Never gamble for more than you can afford to lose and if you do lose, chalk it up to the cost of your "education"
That's my opinion
S
Scottster
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QUOTE=SPINDOKTOR]I agree, live and learn....is it so hard to say no? Obviously by your example, you thought you had the upper hand....so you was going to do to this person what they did to you... You got suckered because they played on your greed. you seen this guy get clobbered, and wanted to join in on the fun... otherwise you wouldnt have played.
This to me is obvious, if Im wrong ok, sorry bout your bad luck, but I dont think its nessasary to start a thread about you loosing a bet.
For all I know this guy could have been playing his heart out, and when he got to you, he finaly caught a gear.. Ive had this happen, I played a guy for 6 hours before he finaly started to play, to late for him, but he did get some money back. you cant prove otherwise, so id let it go..
D O N T B L A M E Y O R E N E M Y F O R U S I N G Y O U R W E A K N E S S A G A I N S T Y O U.
SPINDOKTOR[/QUOTE]
OK, one last time for those that have a hard time comprehending the english language..I did not lose a penny in this scam I witnessed. I was not involved at all with the party that took the bait.. Does this make it clear for those confused by the english language?
This to me is obvious, if Im wrong ok, sorry bout your bad luck, but I dont think its nessasary to start a thread about you loosing a bet.
For all I know this guy could have been playing his heart out, and when he got to you, he finaly caught a gear.. Ive had this happen, I played a guy for 6 hours before he finaly started to play, to late for him, but he did get some money back. you cant prove otherwise, so id let it go..
D O N T B L A M E Y O R E N E M Y F O R U S I N G Y O U R W E A K N E S S A G A I N S T Y O U.
SPINDOKTOR[/QUOTE]
OK, one last time for those that have a hard time comprehending the english language..I did not lose a penny in this scam I witnessed. I was not involved at all with the party that took the bait.. Does this make it clear for those confused by the english language?
daniel said:
Wow, I had never heard that story. I saw Ernie the other day, a little long in the tooth but still getting around well. Ernie doesn't play pool anymore but visits on occasion. I'll have to ask him about that story.
thanks,
BTW, is this Daniel formerly of B.R.?
JoeyA
Lol you guys. Regarding the lambs, I get enough action without pretending. I win far more than I loose and my "suckers" know my game.
If I was gambling for a living I might think differently, but I guess I am not cut out for it.
Thanks everyone for some laughs anyway.
If I was gambling for a living I might think differently, but I guess I am not cut out for it.
Thanks everyone for some laughs anyway.
Exactly
I play cheap. I know my limitations. I usually gamble and dont have the better of it.
I have been to accused of matching up better than I play pool, I enjoy that part of it.
I play cheap and dont mind losing, I just dont want to give it away.
ken
lfigueroa said:
I play cheap. I know my limitations. I usually gamble and dont have the better of it.
I have been to accused of matching up better than I play pool, I enjoy that part of it.
I play cheap and dont mind losing, I just dont want to give it away.
ken
I think anyone who purposely deceives another for money is in the wrong. Pool, car sales, politics, whatever. If people treated others fairly, the world would be a better place. Matching up with someone who knows somewhere near your speed seems reasonable, but I do not think hustling someone is. It does matter what the games past has been, it is about what kind of person you are in my opinion.
lfigueroa said:
In the movie "The Flim Flam Man" George C Scott said the only reason you can cheat someone is because they think that they are cheating you. I don't know if that was the exact wordiing but it basically says the same thing. After I seen that movie I got a whole new outlook on things: There is no free lunch.
SJDinPHX said:
I was going off of what was described in post #13. If that is not cheating, then I guess I am just too moral. Isn't the whole spread/lemon thing about setting people up to take their money? Why should that be just some "accepted" part of the game? Hustling goes on every day in life for sure. Does that make it right? I mean, would you rather buy a car from an honest salesman who cares about what you can handle or would you rather buy a car from a salesman who is brilliant at hustling people into a vehicle they cannot afford?
Alright, well If you witnessed the whole thing going down why didnt you warn the guy?
If one of my buddies was about to loose his rent money, Id try to talk him out of the match if I knew the guy might be trying to hustle..
This is like someone watching someone load the gun, and point it, but only complain about the murder after it happened. Thats my impression, thats my opinion, I have said all Im going to, I know its awful, I feel for the guy, but it does take two to tango.. Unless someone forced him to play, I just think friends dont let friends get hustled..If you see it comming let it be known.
SPINDOKTOR
OK, one last time for those that have a hard time comprehending the english language..I did not lose a penny in this scam I witnessed. I was not involved at all with the party that took the bait.. Does this make it clear for those confused by the english language?[/QUOTE]
If one of my buddies was about to loose his rent money, Id try to talk him out of the match if I knew the guy might be trying to hustle..
This is like someone watching someone load the gun, and point it, but only complain about the murder after it happened. Thats my impression, thats my opinion, I have said all Im going to, I know its awful, I feel for the guy, but it does take two to tango.. Unless someone forced him to play, I just think friends dont let friends get hustled..If you see it comming let it be known.
SPINDOKTOR
Scottster said:
OK, one last time for those that have a hard time comprehending the english language..I did not lose a penny in this scam I witnessed. I was not involved at all with the party that took the bait.. Does this make it clear for those confused by the english language?[/QUOTE]
SPINDOKTOR said:
But wouldn't you get a little upset if you found out that you were just the plot of a brilliant scheme to take your money? You were playing for the game and they were just playing you. That would piss me off because I would never know the true speed of the person who played me. There would be no lesson learned as far as my game goes.
Yes, there will always be people willing to "give away" their money. I see it all the time at the bars. Sometimes I wonder what the heck they are thinking. But I think that is different from the set-up which is brilliantly executed in order to con the other guy into making the challenge. It does not seem like your friend set the guy up to make the bet.