you know why? would you make this public then? if he wasnt envolved, I think he needs to keep his nose out of it.. My opinion ofcourse, why? is that? Lets say I catch this guy cheating on his wife, I say nothing to his wife, but the next day I tell the local newspaper about the event, you see where Im going?
reguardless, somethings you either do what you feel is right, or you let it go. If he didnt have the courage to step up, walk over to the guy and let him know something MAY be up then he doesnt need to spread rumors.
My opinion..
If the thread was just about Laying a spread, without saying he witnessed the whole thing and did nothing, then I wouldnt be like this.
We all are guilty, If you think you can make money, there is temptation, most of us go for it...
He likely has as well, I hide my speed alot, In the hall I play I have guy's come in two -3 times a week just to play me, If I beat them badly everytime they walk in they wouldnt come back. As they progress, I do too.. this way they can come in and get all they want, they know.. Alot of times, they even come to me and ask for a money game, knowing I stiffen up a little for the cash..
One guy told me, he said I know I cant beat you, but everytime we play for money I learn something..
Now if you tell me Im cheating these people, and they hear you, theyd proboly hit you right in the mouth. I never challenge anyone unless Im straight forward, I do hide my speed, at times, but that is because people come to me looking to improve thier game, I try to play slightly above thier speed just enough to spark that fire, and it works, Ive had guy's and gal's abilty Skyrocket in as little as 2 weeks.
So to me this thread is a little offending, not that I lay traps, or anything, but I dont feel Im cheating anyone out of thier money doing what I do..
I have been known to be the safety guy in a ring game this was along time ago, and was ask of me by my instructor, I never liked it, but I did do it.
Now, if thats good enough of an explanation Id rather not comment further.. No offense, but please, I dont like this thread, and wish I had just kept my .02 out of it..
Play Smart!
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memikey said:
It's not difficult to see why Scottster has got a little frustrated with some azbers' inability to read and understand what he's posted.
What part of Scottster's clarification
"I was not involved at all with the party that took the bait" can possibly have given you the impression that the hustled mark was a friend of his?
Setting aside for the moment the fact that the mark was not his friend and quite apart from the fact that it's not normally very advisable to go uninvitedly butting into the money match arrangements of others in a pool room.......what part of anything Scottster has posted suggests that Scottster could "see it coming" anyway? What he posted simply states what happened, it doesn't say he saw it coming. It should be clear to readers that there's every likelihood Scottster quite possibly didn't see it coming, certainly not before the con man showed his true speed and therefore not early enough to have given out advice to the mark anyway, even if he had been a friend.
As regards the con I don't see the basic underlying principles at work here as being very much different from simply hiding your speed until you find a match you really like and don't see why one is reprehensible and the other not, which some people seem to think
I'm not sure if Scottster feels that "laying a spread" deserves special condemnation over and above all the other pool hustles but personally would have thought it difficult to justify singling out one con over many others. It's either "ok" to hustle or it's not, there isn't some "honour amongst thieves" code at work here
Good thread
