My personal cue vs. Bar cue
- Thread starter damandavid
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Honestly, I've always thought a bar cue with a decent tip plays better than any two piece cue regardless of who cut it in half. There is also a theory and It closely coincides with the strange pus_y phenomenon. Something to the effect that his because its something different it's better.
Well...you bought a Players cue.:grin-square:
Do I know why you found what you did? OK...hold on...it's coming...the bar cue is the better playing cue for you. :wink:
You could buy that cue from the bar, take it to a cue maker, and have a sneaky made.
In fact, just offer to trade your Players cue. :grin-square:
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I didn't say it
Bingo!
New equipment almost always performs "better" simply because it feels different and we're paying more attention how we use it. Buy it, use it for a month and it will perform the same as your current cue when the novelty wears off.
Tip radius might be the easiest change to make. In my simple (and often wrong) line of thinking, the flatter radius will contact closer to center for a given offset. In other words, the effective contact point of your nickel radius tip isn't as low on a draw shot as the dime radius tip on the bar cue.
If the radius change doesn't get you results, try a tip change. Bar cues usually have inexpensive single layer tips like elk master or triangle.
If the radius change doesn't get you results, try a tip change. Bar cues usually have inexpensive single layer tips like elk master or triangle.
I experience the same thing in my local pool halls. The fact is if they are a good one piece house cues like a 20 year old or more dufferin odds are the tip is slightly smaller and almost more of a conical taper which could make it stiffer and more LD and older wood usually gets more dense the dime over nickel will give more spin easier and shooting relaxed not over thinking will allow you to do more easier. I like to call it Excalibur effect. On a side note I have had a lot of production and custom cues and shot with standard maple and most LD brand shafts. I have a custom sneaky made by a local cue make with a shaft made out of a 35 year old dufferin with some ld traits added light ferule and drilled out at the end hits great has low deflection.
I think you like this cue because it is short. Do you hold it at the butt end ? Do you have wrist action in your stroke ? Have you ever played with a three cushion cue ?
damandavid
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I do hold it on the butt end, I try to not have alot of wrist action, and I've never played with a 3 cushion cue. Why?
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That could well be true. A red circle cue ball draws more than others. He can get on the same table but would need to ask if they have different cue balls.
I was going to suggest a three cushion cue to Tony the Tiger based on what he was saying.
You beat me to it.
Nice to see you posting. Please do so more often.
All the Best to You & Yours,
Rick
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Psychology?
Length?
Tip radius?
The table?
All and more are very possible.
But unless he gets the cue and actually does some real comparisons and takes the time to break it down, it's all academic masturbation IMHO.
I think it would be very worthwhile and the OP would know a helluva lot more about cues and himself at the other end of such an exercise. And it would be dirt cheap.
Dollar for dollar it's some extremely valuable education compared to almost anything else including books and lessons.
It's one of the reasons I have ended up with so many cues. I don't generally "dump" cues. Preferences aside, I feel that I know a lot about how they play and why they play that way because I actually have them side by side frequently.
I am extensively studying a custom cue at the moment in preparation for making some changes, such as tips and ferrules, to make it play more to my liking. I play it and compare it to numerous other cues in my collection, including those with playing characteristics I don't like.
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Length?
Tip radius?
The table?
All and more are very possible.
But unless he gets the cue and actually does some real comparisons and takes the time to break it down, it's all academic masturbation IMHO.
I think it would be very worthwhile and the OP would know a helluva lot more about cues and himself at the other end of such an exercise. And it would be dirt cheap.
Dollar for dollar it's some extremely valuable education compared to almost anything else including books and lessons.
It's one of the reasons I have ended up with so many cues. I don't generally "dump" cues. Preferences aside, I feel that I know a lot about how they play and why they play that way because I actually have them side by side frequently.
I am extensively studying a custom cue at the moment in preparation for making some changes, such as tips and ferrules, to make it play more to my liking. I play it and compare it to numerous other cues in my collection, including those with playing characteristics I don't like.
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If he is drawing the ball 'lights out' then perhaps he already has good fundamentals.
If he gets the cue & contrasts it with his Players, he may learn something about equipment.
If you think all cues, golf clubs, tennis rackets, baseball bats, etc, are the same then there is a Bridge in Brooklyn that I think you might be very interested in buying from ME.
Yes, good players can play well with anything, but then why do most & ALL pros have their own personal cue?
Obviously something of note was different.
As some have said, it may have been the table conditions or the cue ball.
He should find out if he wants to do so.
I have never seen a tournament, amateur or pro, where everybody played off the wall. In fact, it's hard to find somebody at any tournament of any level outside the lowest bar league playing off the wall.
Wouldn't that make for an interesting pro tournament?
Set up a tournament with a bunch of good one piece cues on the wall. Same tips and ferrules, weights available in the typical range. All new.
It would be interesting to see how they played. But what would be really interesting would be interviewing the players about their experience and observations during and after it. Except for Earl. He would probably just duct tape two cues end to end and rave about how all the cues are too short. Predictable.
Another permutation would be to do the same but provide only beat up POS bar cues. Get them from real bars. They all have tips but at least half of them are slip on tips. I can see people fighting over the one with a good tip, or the straight one, only to find out it rattles. Earl? Sorry, not invited. He would reach critical mass and kill somebody.
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Can't speak to tournaments but honestly I've played more $1000 sets than I can count " off the wall ". In the interest of full disclosure us regulars had our own house cues we " hid " throughout the poolroom. Took my green scrubby to the shafts and got it just how I liked it. Took a tip tool and made sure tip was good. I had no problem with it cause I honestly thought it shot as good or better than my Scruggs, Frey, or any other cue I had at the time.
To be fair, that's not really playing off the wall. Hiding your cue somewhere in the room...it's still your cue.
But point your point is well made anyway. :thumbup:
Personally, even on a house cue, I consider a green scrubby darn near criminal assault of a pool cue.
But that's another discussion.
Incidentally, I do have an beautiful old Dufferin house cue that I have been known to keep behind the counter at several places over the years. :wink:
The cue honestly plays great..
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And that's why I do not get the big custom cue market... other than for looks...
And then your beauty may not be my beauty so how can it be an investment or perhaps the question should be why should it be.
What, if anything, am I missing?
Best 2 Ya,
Rick