Love it!! You both crack me up, move this thread to the main forum and buy my last Barnhart!!
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Love it!! You both crack me up, move this thread to the main forum and buy my last Barnhart!!
Also buy TRO's Barnharts too
Don;t get it
I just tried to stay away but I couldn;t...sorry.
Simple question...Snowmon did you saw the pictures from Huy, before sending the cue?
I mean no offence but even my wife said that it is something wrong with that shaft just seeing the pics you posted above...
Just curious...thanks anyway.
This kind of deals start to multiply considerably...I should find something else to do...maybe a NRP will help...
Good luck in fighting...
Chris
I just tried to stay away but I couldn;t...sorry.
Simple question...Snowmon did you saw the pictures from Huy, before sending the cue?
I mean no offence but even my wife said that it is something wrong with that shaft just seeing the pics you posted above...
Just curious...thanks anyway.
This kind of deals start to multiply considerably...I should find something else to do...maybe a NRP will help...
Good luck in fighting...
Chris
Chris,
Of course your wife noticed something was wrong with the shaft in the pictures I posted..That was the point..I took those pictures using the macro setting on my camera..The pictures Huy posted on his for sale thread are inconclusive..I don't put a lot of value in mediocre pictures..I ask a lot of detailed questions if I need clarification on condition as I did..Go look at his thread yourself..
Dale
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I thought so...
thanks buddy. Just checking...
Seriously now, hope Huy will do the right thing and line this up for good.
switching to NPR...<|-----Chris
I might not have read all the posts in the multiple threads about this deal but is the shaft the only thing in question? Did everything else live up to its description and is it just the finish on the shaft? It looks thicker than just a clear coat in the picture.
what kind of ferrule is that? 
I am in no way involved in this deal but im just curious. Cant the shaft be cleaned and refinished? Then it seems all the problems would go away. Maybe im missing something.
No he didn't live up to the description...Huy told me the cue was purchased by his friend new for himself in the US, He played with it briefly just to try it out, and put it in his case...Huy actually took the cue in as collateral from a pro player that was stuck..(a loan basically)..The player never payed back the loan so Huy was stuck with the cue...He lied about the origin of the cue...I explain the whole scenario on post # 18..Included in the post is a copy of the pm to me explaining where the cue came from..The guy is a scam..plain and simple..
Why should I have the shaft cleaned, and refinished, when I was lied to about the condition, told the shafts were original, and lied to about the the origin of the cue...I mean when does it stop? When is enough enough? I mean if the ferrule size was off no big deal, if the shaft had a lot of bluing, but wasn't modified, no big deal..
But to not disclose the peeling when I asked him if the shafts were original...
Not to disclose the peeling when I asked about the overall condition of the cue..
When I asked him where he bought the cue he tells me his friend bought it for him new in the US..When actually it wasn't bought for him new in the US..
He took the cue as collateral against a loan, and the loan was never paid back...so he was stuck!
When is enough enough when it comes to deception doing cue deals??
what kind of ferrule is that?
Dude your posts always crack me up!! Thanks I needed that..
Looks pretty obvious to me in the original sale thread that the finish was taken back on the shaft. I really don't think it's a big deal, nothing a cleaning, and refinish could'nt cure anyhow..
I know lots of people that can't even stand the feel of sealer on a shaft, myself included, and have it sanded off. In our opinion natural shafts play better.
Hope you guys get it worked out.
I know lots of people that can't even stand the feel of sealer on a shaft, myself included, and have it sanded off. In our opinion natural shafts play better.
Hope you guys get it worked out.
Dude you are an anomaly...It's amazing that your vision is that great to see all those fine details....Crazy stuff man!!
You have no opinion on Huy lying to me about where he bought the cue??
You have no opinion about fully disclosing the peeling shaft when asked about condition of the cue??
I'm going to keep this simple hopefully you get it..
I don't buy or trade for PROJECTS...A project is a cue that needs help be it new shafts, a re-finish, new handle, new wrap, shafts re-tapered etc etc..I buy, or trade for cues that need no work..These cues I desire are cues in excellent to near excellent condition...
I asked Huy a several questions (like I always ask everybody when doing a deal) including these below.
Are the shafts Original to the cue?
What is the condition of the cue?
Where did you purchase the cue?
Huy made the decision for me on my purchase when he didn't disclose the peeling on the shafts..and described the cue as nearly excellent condition..
Huy made the decision for me when he lied about the origin of the cue..
If I would of known about the peeling, and if I would of known the cue was not bought new, but was a piece of collateral I would of made the decision not to trade for this cue...Why??? Because I'm not, or never was, or never will be interested in projects
You and I know the pictures huy provided of the shafts were inconclusive..My pictures on the other hand tell a different story!!
I think you trade back and you pay for all shipping costs. Either that or you pay for his shaft to be redone by Gold and you pay all shipping charges. He shouldn't have to pay anything to get it to the condition you said it was already in. Sorry, 50 is not sufficient. he will spend that in shipping. Good luck in getting it resolved.
Not sure why i need supervision to see that one shaft is blued way back, like i said, it's obvious. This seems like a miscommunication issue, nothing more. You asked if the shafts were original to the cue, right? Well, they are original shafts, Joe did make them, right? See where i'm getting that it's a micommunication thing? I'm not real sure why it would matter where he got the cue from, unless he stole it from someone? I'm not sticking up for him, don't even know him, just giving an outsiders view from what i've seen, and read. I just don't see a bad guy here, sorry. He offered to have the shaft fixed, or even to take the cue back. What more could you want?
Something tells me the shaft looks a whole lot better with the naked eye, than it does under your microscopic camera settings.......
Anomoly? I guess so, if you mean someone that tells it like they see it.
Thanks for the compliment, and again, i hope you guys work it out.
Something tells me the shaft looks a whole lot better with the naked eye, than it does under your microscopic camera settings.......
Anomoly? I guess so, if you mean someone that tells it like they see it.
Thanks for the compliment, and again, i hope you guys work it out.
Dude your lacking in the common sense department...The shaft peeling should of been disclosed, just like a dent or ding, just like a wobble in the nose, or blems..It's that simple...I asked him whats the condition of the cue? He should of disclosed the peeling period..
When I asked the origin of the cue..He shouldn't of lied..The origin of the cue matters to me...100%
My expectations my questioning of this cue are not up for debate..The condition, origin, specs of the cue, and how it was presented to me are up for debate, and huy misrepresented this cue the whole way...Thats the bottom line...Huy has made no attempt to make this right other than the 50.00 he offered which was a slap in the face...Huy not making any effort to fix this problem says a lot about his character...
Check out the pics of one slightly used shaft..Wow huysmall what an accurate description..
When I asked the origin of the cue..He shouldn't of lied..The origin of the cue matters to me...100%
My expectations my questioning of this cue are not up for debate..The condition, origin, specs of the cue, and how it was presented to me are up for debate, and huy misrepresented this cue the whole way...Thats the bottom line...Huy has made no attempt to make this right other than the 50.00 he offered which was a slap in the face...Huy not making any effort to fix this problem says a lot about his character...
Check out the pics of one slightly used shaft..Wow huysmall what an accurate description..
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I didn't read all the threads on this topic... But some finishes are quite thick, and that could be why the "ridge" where the finish ends on the shaft is quite abrupt.
Question: Is the shaft close to full size near the ferrule, and in the bridge area? If so, the shaft can be cleaned, refinished with a clearcoat the proper length, and then resealed in the bridge area. All this would probably be much less than $100, probably closer to $50, even if Mr. Gold did the work. If this is the case, I personally think you should just take the $50 and move on. I know you are not happy, but it doesn't seem like the seller is offering any other resolution.
I bought a brand new ebay cue once that was made in the Philippines. I paid 360 for it, with shipping. When I got it in my hands, there were tons of things wrong with it, really wrong, and I wanted to return it. None of these issues were possible to see in the pictures, which were quite detailed. The seller agreed, but I had to pay shipping. I think it was 60 to ship it back to him. Although I was out 60, I was glad not to be out 360, and learned a lesson from the experience.
Just my opinion.
Question: Is the shaft close to full size near the ferrule, and in the bridge area? If so, the shaft can be cleaned, refinished with a clearcoat the proper length, and then resealed in the bridge area. All this would probably be much less than $100, probably closer to $50, even if Mr. Gold did the work. If this is the case, I personally think you should just take the $50 and move on. I know you are not happy, but it doesn't seem like the seller is offering any other resolution.
I bought a brand new ebay cue once that was made in the Philippines. I paid 360 for it, with shipping. When I got it in my hands, there were tons of things wrong with it, really wrong, and I wanted to return it. None of these issues were possible to see in the pictures, which were quite detailed. The seller agreed, but I had to pay shipping. I think it was 60 to ship it back to him. Although I was out 60, I was glad not to be out 360, and learned a lesson from the experience.
Just my opinion.
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As far as where the cue came from, people lie about that all the time in ads, or they lie about why they are selling it. A used cue is a used cue. It doesn't matter if 10 people owned it, or 1. All that matters is its condition.
Every single "for sale cue" "hits a ton". The seller is only selling cause he has another cue coming and needs to make space.... yeah right, seller...
Every single "for sale cue" "hits a ton". The seller is only selling cause he has another cue coming and needs to make space.... yeah right, seller...
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Dale, with all due respect, I requested that you take my PM's content off this thread. I provided you with information about the cue from what I've known or experienced. That was supposed to be treated as reference on your part, and not factual. Pasting my PM without my consent/permission and confirming its validity is totally unprofessional and unethical. Asking me to convince him to pay up is a total joke. (yes, now talk about 'character')
I talked to Huy the other day and he told me that I remembered incorrectly about this cue. My apology to Huy on this part, kudos to him if he told me the truth. Only Huy would know the true origin of the cue, it's up to anyone to believe his story. That's why you can't just paste my PM on here and treat it as factual evidence.
The way I see it is, Dale, you don't like to pay for shipping fees to trade back. And Huy only agrees to pay half the fees (around $60 from each end). I'm willing to donate $10 to help Dale & Huy get through this matter. And I only need 5 more people with me
Anyone up for Dale or Huy?