It is all of society's business when fraud and law breaking occurs.
It affects all of society and all cue makers and all potential customers of pool cue makers.
That attitude reminds me of a time I saw a guy grab his wife and slam her head first hard enough to break get sunglasses off her face into a patio fence. I jumped in and slammed the guy almost through the wall.
I was told by some people that I should mind my own business but things like that and this are everyone's business and it is our responsibility as members of society to help prevent it from happening again and to assure everyone that we don't condone actions like that.
Jaden
i knew i liked you for more than ONE reason....
Alright everyone, Sam ( SWEST ) post his story not trying to get sympathy or looking for anyone to feel sorry for him. He made this post just another document evidence of what T. Zinzola did to his victims, I know there about 15 victims at the moment and T. Zinzola took in the amount of somewhere of $25,000 and upward from the record I have.
I have procession of 5 ( Semi ) unfinished cues on collateral from T. Zinzola, I will be posting these pic's up little later. 2 of the cue which belongs to " SWEST " & 1 other cue belong to Eric " Fatboy " the other 2 cue I do not know who they belong to, I will make arrangement to send the 2 cue back to Sam " SWEST " & once Eric contact me I will be sending his cue back to him also. For the record, all 5 cues only the Butt end, there no shafts on these cues.
Originally the agreement is once T. Zinzola paid me back what he owes me and I will send these back to T. Zinzola but I thought about it for a long while, why not just find the rightful owner of these cues and send it to them., I am confident that if these cues ever get back to TZ, the rightful owner never gonna see these cue ever again. At least with this arrangement, some of the victim get what is owed to them. Stay tuned for the pic's to be up little later.
Sam, according to your time & date of payment to TZ, that was the same time he promise me to pay what owe to me but disappear on me until around Nov of 2013. I will write another post about that when I post the pic's of the 5 cues.
Just hoped all TZ victim will step forward with their stories and bad dealing about TZ & hopefully no more innocent victim will fall under TZ traps. Staying silent will not get what owes to you, pool community is a selfish bunch., hope we all can get together to name all the bad, con & shamed cue maker from ever con another person.
We just need these victims to come forward and bring some evidence to the table.
After that rumors started up that we were having an affair. We weren't but I understand why the rumors started. I think she wanted to but I didn't know it. I had kind of taught her husband how to play pool and he would play pool while his wife and I were hanging out in the Jacuzzi just outside where the rec room with the pool table was.
And she would take their daughter for walks and come talk to me at my front door for periods of time and I think people in the apartment complex would talk about it.
I was to naive at the time to realize what she wanted.
Jaden
everyone in LA & OC have jacuzzis on their patios
Alright everyone, Sam ( SWEST ) post his story not trying to get sympathy or looking for anyone to feel sorry for him. He made this post just another document evidence of what T. Zinzola did to his victims, I know there about 15 victims at the moment and T. Zinzola took in the amount of somewhere of $25,000 and upward from the record I have.
I have procession of 5 ( Semi ) unfinished cues on collateral from T. Zinzola, I will be posting these pic's up little later. 2 of the cue which belongs to " SWEST " & 1 other cue belong to Eric " Fatboy " the other 2 cue I do not know who they belong to, I will make arrangement to send the 2 cue back to Sam " SWEST " & once Eric contact me I will be sending his cue back to him also. For the record, all 5 cues only the Butt end, there no shafts on these cues.
Originally the agreement is once T. Zinzola paid me back what he owes me and I will send these back to T. Zinzola but I thought about it for a long while, why not just find the rightful owner of these cues and send it to them., I am confident that if these cues ever get back to TZ, the rightful owner never gonna see these cue ever again. At least with this arrangement, some of the victim get what is owed to them. Stay tuned for the pic's to be up little later.
Sam, according to your time & date of payment to TZ, that was the same time he promise me to pay what owe to me but disappear on me until around Nov of 2013. I will write another post about that when I post the pic's of the 5 cues.
Just hoped all TZ victim will step forward with their stories and bad dealing about TZ & hopefully no more innocent victim will fall under TZ traps. Staying silent will not get what owes to you, pool community is a selfish bunch., hope we all can get together to name all the bad, con & shamed cue maker from ever con another person.
Please post pics, as i'd like to see if mine are included in the ones that you are in possession of.
I am happy people on AZB are starting to post when things go bad with a cue maker. The op has not ask for anything he has informed us, and I thank him. It's another cue maker off the list!Look guys... I follow all, or most of, the drama that plays out on this site. Yes, I knew that there were people that were unhappy with TZ. Yes, I knew that I was risking money by buying these deposits. But, at the time, everything I read about TZ's problems appeared to be about him not being able to deliver on time, or maybe not for a long time. As I said, I was in no hurry.
Anyway, I didn't make this post so that I could get sympathy from all of you in this matter. I neither require, nor want it. So don't come back and tell me to just 'suck it up', and play the hand that was dealt me, and all that. That's not the point.
I posted because the facts of what happened to me should be made public, so that others (i.e., the 'community, of which I am a part', see my post) would have information to inform their own decisions about future, or past, dealings with TZ.
This is not about speculation gone bad. This is about being told that a job was finished, and that payment was requested, and then nothing was delivered.
I would like to know if there are any other cue makers that have not delivered. I live near Chicago. If there is a cue maker here who has not delivered, I would like to know, maybe I can go to his shop and find out what the story is.unfortunately, it's what we all need to do, nowadays.
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